Prospect Info: Blues 2021 draft

[jbron]

So I have finally gone through this years crapshoot of a draft. Honestly I think there is pretty clear top 5-10 but after they go it is totally up in the air. An argument could be made for any player through the 10- 50 spots. The lack of information out there due to the pandemic is really going test our scouting department. There are two players that have caught my eye and both are expected to go somewhere in the 10-20 spot with some reports even having them in the top 10.

First up is Carson Lambos, the 6'1, 200lb LHD, who in some scouting reports has been compared to Alex Pietrangelo.

2021 NHL Draft #13: Carson Lambos Scouting Report

Second is Fyodor Svechkov, the 6' , 187lb C, who could become our very own O'Reilly clone. High hockey sense and gifted defensive forward with maybe even more offensive upside.

2021 Draft Profile: C Fyodor Svechkov : The Draft Analyst

Carson Lambos would be a great pick, but most likely will be gone by the Blues selection. If they want a D man they could opt for Danil Chayka.
Not quite sold on Ceulemans, as he is more of puck moving defenseman and not as sound on D. Their first pick might be a W/C as BPA for sure in the first. Fyodor Svechkov (playmaking), Nikita Chibikov (speed), and Matthew Coronato ( scoring) would all be good picks. All could bring a dynamic that the Blues need on O. The Blues should end up with a pretty good prospect in the first round.

 

[Frenzy31]

Thanks to Montreal, we get to pick 16.


Yeah.

 

[Blanick]

Carson Lambos would be a great pick, but most likely will be gone by the Blues selection. If they want a D man they could opt for Danil Chayka.
Not quite sold on Ceulemans, as he is more of puck moving defenseman and not as sound on D. Their first pick might be a W/C as BPA for sure in the first. Fyodor Svechkov (playmaking), Nikita Chibikov (speed), and Matthew Coronato ( scoring) would all be good picks. All could bring a dynamic that the Blues need on O. The Blues should end up with a pretty good prospect in the first round.

My hope is that maybe Lambos injury this year will scare some teams away and he will fall into our lap. If he is available at 16, Blues have to take him. Chayka did catch my eye but I had him just behind Ceulemans in my defensive ranking. Ceulemans is known more for his puck moving than his defense but he is pretty defensively sound and is just a superb skater and that gave him just a slight edge. Chayka has a real good shot but his puck moving leaves a little to be desired and I just feel like the league is moving more towards a quick transition game.

I would be ok with all 3 of those forward. Svechkov is my favorite, followed by Coronato and then Chibikov.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Come on Lambos!!!!

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

I expect them to take none of the guys we (HFBoards) initially like, it happens every year lol

 

[TK 421]

I keep watching every day for info on the nature and severity of Lambos' injury but my guess is that info won't be available until his agent/rep has to disclose it right before the draft. Aaron Vickers, a scout, said it was hip related but didn't elaborate other than to say it was interestingly quiet. Stay tuned.

He's the no5 D on my board and imo it's a drop from healthy Lambos to Ceulemans. After Ceulemans I don't see a single D I'd want to use a mid 1st on including Chayka. Actually I might not even want Ceulemans depending on which forwards are still available.

 

[TK 421]

I expect them to take none of the guys we (HFBoards) initially like, it happens every year lol

Hah I wanted Neighbours last draft and got him. Who do you want this year, I'll make it happen Cap'n.

 

[jbron]

I keep watching every day for info on the nature and severity of Lambos' injury but my guess is that info won't be available until his agent/rep has to disclose it right before the draft. Aaron Vickers, a scout, said it was hip related but didn't elaborate other than to say it was interestingly quiet. Stay tuned.

He's the no5 D on my board and imo it's a drop from healthy Lambos to Ceulemans. After Ceulemans I don't see a single D I'd want to use a mid 1st on including Chayka. Actually I might not even want Ceulemans depending on which forwards are still available.

 

[jbron]

Ceulemans will likely be picked higher than he should. Chayka really should go later in the first. Agree that the pick could be one of the forwards and there are some good prospects that should be available. A healthy Lambos would be a fantastic pick.

 

[SwivelSchwartz]

And Arizona forfeits so we technically have the 15th pick, right?

 

[Beauterham]

Another name I didn't hear yet that could go in the 12-20 range if we want a decent forward: Mason McTavish. He can play either center or wing. Played in the Swiss league last year due to the OHL season being cancelled. He's a pure goalscorer and apparantly his game is reminiscent of Jeff Carter.

Anyone know more about him?

EDIT: most people in the regular McTavish topic expect him to go top 10 apparantly...

 

[Beauterham]

And Arizona forfeits so we technically have the 15th pick, right?

16th.

If Arizona didn't forfeit their pick we would've picked 17th.

 

[Frenzy31]

Another name I didn't hear yet that could go in the 12-20 range if we want a decent forward: Mason McTavish. He can play either center or wing. Played in the Swiss league last year due to the OHL season being cancelled. He's a pure goalscorer and apparantly his game is reminiscent of Jeff Carter.

Anyone know more about him?

EDIT: most people in the regular McTavish topic expect him to go top 10 apparantly...

Yes, pretty much every ranking has him the 2nd or 3rd forward taken. However, this year who really knows. All it takes is a run on dmen or goalies to have a player drop.

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

Hah I wanted Neighbours last draft and got him. Who do you want this year, I'll make it happen Cap'n.

Svechkov or Ceulemans please

 

[Beauterham]

Yes, pretty much every ranking has him the 2nd or 3rd forward taken. However, this year who really knows. All it takes is a run on dmen or goalies to have a player drop.

True.

The 16th spot is very interesting. As you said, there is a chance a player will be available that normally should go in the 5-10 range who is still available due to teams targeting a specific position. Didn't Barzal go 16th overall?


Checked it... he did.

 

[kimzey59]

Yes, pretty much every ranking has him the 2nd or 3rd forward taken. However, this year who really knows. All it takes is a run on dmen or goalies to have a player drop.

I'd like to know what rankings you're looking at because most of the ones I've seen have him as the #5 forward behind Berniers, Guenther, Johnson and Eklund.
In fact; he's not even the consensus #5 forward. Lots of people seem to like Sillinger more.

 

[Oberyn]

16th is the earliest we've picked in over a decade, I'm looking forward to seeing who we select. I haven't kept up much in this year's draft class at all but due to these unprecedented times I suspect we'll see some volatility at the draft in terms of projected vs actual picks.

 

[Stealth JD]

16th is the earliest we've picked in over a decade, I'm looking forward to seeing who we select. I haven't kept up much in this year's draft class at all but due to these unprecedented times I suspect we'll see some volatility at the draft in terms of projected vs actual picks.

maybe we use somebody like Dunn to move up in the Draft. Dunn + #16 for something in the #8 to #11 range? Better than losing him for nothing, even if it costs you a guy like Blais or Sanford in addition.

 

[Beauterham]

I'd like to know what rankings you're looking at because most of the ones I've seen have him as the #5 forward behind Berniers, Guenther, Johnson and Eklund.
In fact; he's not even the consensus #5 forward. Lots of people seem to like Sillinger more.

Think he means the user rankings in the prospects subforum for example: 2021 Mock Draft Thread

Most scouting agencies have him between 12 and 20, only Central Scouting has him higher: 2nd overall ahead of Guenther.
It seems like the users on this forum are a lot higher on him then the scouting agencies which is probably due to his performance at the WJC.

 

[Frenzy31]

I'd like to know what rankings you're looking at because most of the ones I've seen have him as the #5 forward behind Berniers, Guenther, Johnson and Eklund.
In fact; he's not even the consensus #5 forward. Lots of people seem to like Sillinger more.

Here is the link - Mike G. Morreale - NHL.com 10 best forwards.

He is 2.

2021 NHL Draft: Top 10 defensemen

He is number 4 here.

2021 NHL Mock Draft: Post-Lottery Edition (Round 1) : The Draft Analyst

This is a draft where there is no clear cut top player and while Bernier is going to be the top forward taken and Power the top D man - there is a LOT of variance in who is going where and how they are ranked.

Here is Central Scouting - Has him behind Owen Power and ahead of Johnson, Hughes, Beniers, Guenther.....

2021 Draft Prospect Rankings | NHL Draft Prospect Rankings


What sites are you currently looking at that show Sillinger as rated higher.

 

[Stealth JD]

I'd be happy with any of the top-12 falling, which almost assuredly will happen once you mix in the 2 goalies and the international skaters.
2021 Draft Prospect Rankings | NHL Draft Prospect Rankings

 

[Mike Liut]

1. St. Louis Blues: Nikita Chibrikov, RW (SKA-Neva, VHL) — Tough, physical, and a plus-plus shooter, Chibrikov more than held his own playing against adults in Russia’s VHL and was Russia’s captain at the U18 worlds. He’s a highly-competitive winger who seems to get better as the game tightens up and gets uglier. Would be interesting to see the Blues put him on the same line with Klim Kostin while also getting mentored by Vladimir Tarasenko
2. 
   I’m on board

 

[BleedBlueForever]

maybe we use somebody like Dunn to move up in the Draft. Dunn + #16 for something in the #8 to #11 range? Better than losing him for nothing, even if it costs you a guy like Blais or Sanford in addition.

I feel like Dunn + #16 for #10 could work for both teams. OTT looks like they need LD.

EDIT: Then with #10 pick I'd be going for Lucius

 

[sfvega]

I feel like Dunn + #16 for #10 could work for both teams. OTT looks like they need LD.

EDIT: Then with #10 pick I'd be going for Lucius

I made this proposal on the trade board, only adding their 2nd from Tampa next year. Just makes too much sense. They need a PMD on the left, we're probably going to lose Dunn anyway which I disagree with but seems imminent. We have 3 years of no second round picks, and they have tons of prospect depth to where a late 2nd is just a drop in the bucket.

Only with 10, I'd go with either McTavish, Sillinger, or Lambos if his medicals check out. The more I think about it, the more I think Lambos doesn't make it to 16 with the lack of projected D between 8-16, unless he's a real risk. If he's healthy, he seems like everything we need on the left.

 

[Bluesnatic27]

Is this draft really worth moving up in? It's already more of a question mark than most drafts given the COVID situation and it wasn't a draft worth hyping up before then.

I don't think it's 2012 bad, but to trade assets to move up a few spots seems silly to me when the net benefit doesn't seem to warrant such a move. I have no doubts that there will be players falling and rising all over the place given what data is available right now.