Blue Jays Discussion: Blue Jays acquire TROY TULOWITZKI... did I mention his idol is Derek Jeter?

[TootooTrain]

"Jays sign LHP David Price to a 2 year, 100 million dollar deal"

80 jabillion signing bonus

 

[weems]

I like the iso and love the bat to ball skill. I actually classed up the power from 45 to 50 in April prior to the shoulder injury when I saw the bat speed and pop. It's fluent for me.

The 65 I'll go to war on. He's had a wRC+ Of at least 120 at every level, and has shown the ability translate against major league pitching. The approach is tremendously mature for the age too. Again, my opinion, but I'll call it 65 for sure.

*** should note for clarity, I use 20-80 scale. 65 FV is .290 BA in the majors. 50 FV is 15-18 HR.

Nay #7 overall?

This guy has shown nothing for awhile.

Tellez is a better prospect.

 

[The Nemesis]

"Jays sign LHP David Price to a 2 year, 100 million dollar deal"

Jays sign landmark deal with David price, making him the new owner of the team

 

[BertCorbeau]

Watching the Jays in 30 ... Man Tulo crushed that home run. And instantly the reality sunk in of how ridiculous having Tulo - Donaldson - Bautista - EE in the line up (in no matter what order).. Wow

 

[Epictetus]

Respect to Gibbons for putting Tulo in the lead off spot, even if it ends up being just for one game.

 

[Scion]

You might be upset, then, when we move both of them for Sonny Gray

I think I could live with that

 

[AcerComputer]

can someone put the Tulo deal in hockey trade for me.

We traded:

Nylander (hoffman)+ Lupul (reyes) + Percy (castro) + A. Johnson (Tinoco)

For

Jeff Carter (Tulo)

 

[Eyedea]

can someone put the Tulo deal in hockey trade for me.

We traded:

Nylander (hoffman)+ Lupul (reyes) + Percy (castro) + A. Johnson (Tinoco)

For

Jeff Carter (Tulo)

As a Leafs fan, do you do that trade?

 

[HockeyThoughts]

can someone put the Tulo deal in hockey trade for me.

We traded:

Nylander (hoffman)+ Lupul (reyes) + Percy (castro) + A. Johnson (Tinoco)

For

Jeff Carter (Tulo)

I'd like someone else to take a stab but I'll add that Hoffman isn't as good as a prospect as Nylander and Tulo is better than Carter.

 

[canucksfan]

Baseball and hockey are two different sports and there is no point IMO to make up hypothetical trades in hockey to understand a trade that occurred in baseball.

 

[Swervin81]

As a Leafs fan, do you do that trade?

Tulo is more comparable to Malkin. Star player, one of the top players in the world when healthy. Just health is an issue.

 

[TheOtherSide]

can someone put the Tulo deal in hockey trade for me.

We traded:

Nylander (hoffman)+ Lupul (reyes) + Percy (castro) + A. Johnson (Tinoco)

For

Jeff Carter (Tulo)

Probably more like Peter Forsberg circa 2004....

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Watching the Jays in 30 ... Man Tulo crushed that home run. And instantly the reality sunk in of how ridiculous having Tulo - Donaldson - Bautista - EE in the line up (in no matter what order).. Wow

I was at the game tonight, Tulo has been one of my favorite players for a long time. He plays SS but sure as hell doesn't hit like your average SS. This lineup is filthy, and you could go beyond those sluggers at the top of the lineup. If Pompey comes around and Travis gets healthy, we have easily the deepest lineup and baseball and the best lineup we've had since the WS teams, possiby even better than those championship teams.

Pompey
Tulo
Joey Bats
Donaldson
EE
Martin
Colabello
Saunders
Travis

Filthy lineup, no weaknesses.

 

[MR4]

Why do people need the equivalent hockey trade? The impact of a player is much different in both sports so you really can't compare

 

[Gargyn]

I was at the game tonight, Tulo has been one of my favorite players for a long time. He plays SS but sure as hell doesn't hit like your average SS. This lineup is filthy, and you could go beyond those sluggers at the top of the lineup. If Pompey comes around and Travis gets healthy, we have easily the deepest lineup and baseball and the best lineup we've had since the WS teams, possiby even better than those championship teams.

Pompey
Tulo
Joey Bats
Donaldson
EE
Martin
Colabello
Saunders
Travis

Filthy lineup, no weaknesses.

Would rather see

Pompey
Donaldson
Bautista
Tulo
EE
Smoak
Martin
Travis
Pillar

 

[Gargyn]

Unload the farm for Price and Ross...leave it bare! 're-sign Estrada or Dickey

Price Ross Stroman Estrada Hutch

Pompey
Donaldson
Bautista
Tulo
EE
Smoak
Martin
Travis
Pillar

That team could not be beat.

 

[Eyedea]

2nd longest home run of his career. Longest was a 464 foot bomb off Clemens in 2007.

 

[HockeyThoughts]

Why do people need the equivalent hockey trade? The impact of a player is much different in both sports so you really can't compare

Some of us don't follow baseball the same way we follow hockey.

At least I find it helpful

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Would rather see

Pompey
Donaldson
Bautista
Tulo
EE
Smoak
Martin
Travis
Pillar

I wasn't putting the lineup in a specific order really. Generally your best hitter should be hitting second so Donaldson hitting 2nd makes sense. Smoak and Pillar should be bench players in my books. Both have done admirable jobs this season but Pompey brings more to the table over Pillar (unless Pompey is flat out awful) and EE brings more than Smoak. Pillar and Smoak have a role on this team and that role should be as defensive subs who play once, maybe twice a week. Saunders is also an everyday player when healthy or at least he should be.

 

[Eyedea]

Some of us don't follow baseball the same way we follow hockey.

At least I find it helpful

Just know that the Jays traded a struggling (but high impact offensively) SS, a top 50 prospect (with big potential), a high risk prospect (likely back end bullpen piece), and a low end prospect (with bottom of the rotation potential), for the best shortstop in baseball.

 

[Chandler55]

Probably more like Peter Forsberg circa 2004....

this is the perfect nhl counterpart to tulo. hurt all the time but when hes healthy hes a top5 player in the league

 

[The Nemesis]

After being in Seattle on the weekend I got to thinking about teh whole "OMG the RC turf is so awful for defenders!" issue.

I know grass is a few years away, but if the Argos are out of the arena and the Jays are the sole primary tenant, why not take out the turf on the basepaths entirely and have a normal fully dirt infield/basepath area instead of just circles of dirt at each base and then the other lines painted on the turf? Wouldn't the real dirt be a more familiar and less wonky substance to play regularly on than the field turf? Especially because it means that unless the IF has to play deep, they're diving on dirt and not into the field turf that sprays up those little black rubber pellets and whatnot.

Seems like a reasonable halfway solution until they get the real grass in.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Hamels officially off the block now that he's a Ranger.

How serious are the Jays in terms of the Price bidding war? I read something on facebook that insists they're in on him now. Looking at one of San Diego's guys might be a bit more cost effective.

The Dodgers want in on him too, so that complicates things.

 

[TootooTrain]

After being in Seattle on the weekend I got to thinking about teh whole "OMG the RC turf is so awful for defenders!" issue.

I know grass is a few years away, but if the Argos are out of the arena and the Jays are the sole primary tenant, why not take out the turf on the basepaths entirely and have a normal fully dirt infield/basepath area instead of just circles of dirt at each base and then the other lines painted on the turf? Wouldn't the real dirt be a more familiar and less wonky substance to play regularly on than the field turf? Especially because it means that unless the IF has to play deep, they're diving on dirt and not into the field turf that sprays up those little black rubber pellets and whatnot.

Seems like a reasonable halfway solution until they get the real grass in.

I would think the impact is more severe on dirt. The turf is a soft pillow compared to 2 layers of rubber base followed by concrete.

I've always wondered that myself. Why there was only dirt around the bases. I think that's why.

 

[The Nemesis]

Hamels officially off the block now that he's a Ranger.

How serious are the Jays in terms of the Price bidding war? I read something on facebook that insists they're in on him now. Looking at one of San Diego's guys might be a bit more cost effective.

The Dodgers want in on him too, so that complicates things.

#1 everyone says the Jays are looking at Price/talking to Detroit, so in true AA Ninja fashion they're probably not close on him. And #2, I feel like the tigers might drive a super hard bargain for him, demanding a BIG package. That would be better spent if they can go after pieces on San Diego because those returns will be controllable for a couple years instead of paying big assets for a rental. Especially since part of the value of the Tulo deal was extending this team's window to compete for a couple of years beyond this one (and giving them the depth to continue contending past Bautista/EE's best-before dates using an offensive core of Tulo/Donaldson/Martin/Travis)