Blue Bombers 2014 Thread (Game 5 - July 25 @ BC)

[ps241]

Are you back on the bandwagon

I must say willy shows great leadership, imagine what he could do with an o line! And Desmond shouldn't have yapped last week saying see what happens when you kick to me, now we see what happens Desmond

I am a big football fan but a bit more casual CFL fan. I have always followed the bombers casually but found them unwatchable last season (only). I am a friend of Wade's so I took a keen interest in how he was going to approach an organizational rebuild. We have sat on boards together and he is relentless and doesn't suffer fools lightly so I was pretty sure he would find a way I just didn't think it would be this quick.

The team is not perfect but they have done a pretty solid job considering their Canadian talent was decimated. Wade appeared to hire the right GM, I am definatley a fan of the head coach and although all things look better when you are winning O'Shea feels like the type of guy I would love to play for. also somehow this group figured out how to sign a quarterback that actually seems to have football IQ and poise. Why has that been so ridiculously hard to do? Two separate guys I know is Saskatchewan that are smart football guys both texted me to tell me we got a good one in Willy right after we signed him.

anyways there are holes still but The guys are maximizing results based on our talent and can you imagine what they are going to do as they add better pieces over the years.

Feels like we finally have some key people (playmakers if you will) in the coaching and executive ranks.

 

[Board Bard]

3 games in, already as many wins as last year.

Time for Swaggerville 2.0.

Gawd, I hope not. Winning is more important than bragging.

 

[Koonta]

On averages, you are better off with short passes with a huge amount of laterals than throwing the hail mary (at least on big CFL field). That's why they went underneath with the intention to lateral.

It was a LONG punt at that point. It would have been questionable to get to endzone. If it did and they'd try that WPG would just have put Renaud, Harjllaruh and a catcher (a WR/Cotton/Washington) in the end zone and punt it straight back out.

Ok thanks, forgot about the lateral, makes more sense to me now. Anyway great win although some areas to clean up and so nice to have a capable, quality QB in Willy.

Now let's go Ottawa beat the Eskies and the big Blue will be in 1st place in the West.

 

[Derfel*]

Good to see the Bombers finally close one out like that.

Also - I doubt we'll be seeing "Swaggerville" again - O'Shea has a handle on things like that.

 

[meedle]

Big game next week against Edm. Can someone say 4-0

Hopefully it's a sellout

 

[BigZ65]

On averages, you are better off with short passes with a huge amount of laterals than throwing the hail mary (at least on big CFL field). That's why they went underneath with the intention to lateral.

It was a LONG punt at that point. It would have been questionable to get to endzone. If it did and they'd try that WPG would just have put Renaud, Harjllaruh and a catcher (a WR/Cotton/Washington) in the end zone and punt it straight back out.

Montreal was trying to set up a quick kick, figuring the Bombers would all be deep to defend a hail mary, dump a short crosser to Stala. Stala would kick the ball to try for the rouge (if it went out of touch in goal or if the Bombers failed to either return or kick the ball out of goal) and everyone behind him would be onside too so they could possibly recover it for a TD in goal.

Stala was a kicker in college and has subbed in before when kickers have gone down on his team in the CFL. He barely played receiver through the game, I almost guarantee that's what that last play call was. I'm betting O'Shea told his halfbacks/OLB's to not give Stala any time or space during that injury timeout.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

Montreal was trying to set up a quick kick, figuring the Bombers would all be deep to defend a hail mary, dump a short crosser to Stala. Stala would kick the ball to try for the rouge (if it went out of touch in goal or if the Bombers failed to either return or kick the ball out of goal) and everyone behind him would be onside too so they could possibly recover it for a TD in goal.

Stala was a kicker in college and has subbed in before when kickers have gone down on his team in the CFL. He barely played receiver through the game, I almost guarantee that's what that last play call was. I'm betting O'Shea told his halfbacks/OLB's to not give Stala any time or space during that injury timeout.

Yup that's a good call. For sure see this, I'd for sure buy that Montreal was going for this.

The problem with that is Stala would have needed a huge boot on the run as he was about mid-field where he was trying the catch. That's a super easy punt for punters, nevermind a receiver who used to be a punter. To be honest if I was Montreal I'd have tried the long punt from Whyte or lateral play rather than that but I can for sure this as Montreal's play.

 

[BigZ65]

Yup that's a good call. For sure see this, I'd for sure buy that Montreal was going for this.

The problem with that is Stala would have needed a huge boot on the run as he was about mid-field where he was trying the catch. That's a super easy punt for punters, nevermind a receiver who used to be a punter. To be honest if I was Montreal I'd have tried the long punt from Whyte or lateral play rather than that but I can for sure this as Montreal's play.

Ya, they'd be hoping for a good bounce.

Whyte would have been punting from about his own 42-43, so that's a 70 yard punt in the air just to get it into the endzone, at that point, the Bomber returner takes one step forward and the game is over. Not happening.

Your options are:

-kick it out of FG formation and aim for the sideline in goal (majority of kickers who do both kick farther and more accurately off the ground/tee),
-hail mary/laterals
-quick kick

 

[CanWin]

Ya, they'd be hoping for a good bounce.

Whyte would have been punting from about his own 42-43, so that's a 70 yard punt in the air just to get it into the endzone, at that point, the Bomber returner takes one step forward and the game is over. Not happening.

Your options are:

-kick it out of FG formation and aim for the sideline in goal (majority of kickers who do both kick farther and more accurately off the ground/tee),
-hail mary/laterals
-quick kick

Good call, guys. This looks very plausible.

 

[BigZ65]

FWIW, hail mary probably has the highest probability, if for no other reason than that you bring the insane CFL officiating into the equation with the possibility of a flag for PI.

Whyte's leg is relatively weak, any version of him kicking it would be my last option from midfield.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

Yup that's a good call. For sure see this, I'd for sure buy that Montreal was going for this.

The problem with that is Stala would have needed a huge boot on the run as he was about mid-field where he was trying the catch. That's a super easy punt for punters, nevermind a receiver who used to be a punter. To be honest if I was Montreal I'd have tried the long punt from Whyte or lateral play rather than that but I can for sure this as Montreal's play.

I thought they would play a hook and ladder punt

 

[sipowicz]

I'd be surprised if Chad Ochno-stinko lasts a quarter of the season in Montreal, even Canadian receivers are better than him at this point in his should be retired career.

Where was this Clarence Denmark last season.

Anyone think the Big Blue miss their pint sized smurf DB's who could barely cover their shadow, you know the guys Mack liked who were punted by O'Shea.

New kicker looks good

Vega back means a lot to the Blue D

 

[Noisespektrum]

Great game Winnipeg, I am hooked on the CFL

 

[meedle]

Great game Winnipeg, I am hooked on the CFL

Games can be really exciting at the end.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

Anyone think the Big Blue miss their pint sized smurf DB's who could barely cover their shadow, you know the guys Mack liked who were punted by O'Shea.

You realize that Alex Suber is still on the roster and in fact was just re-signed by the Bombers to a new extension.

 

[HannuJ]

FWIW, hail mary probably has the highest probability, if for no other reason than that you bring the insane CFL officiating into the equation with the possibility of a flag for PI.

refs haven't been complaint worthy for a few years.

 

[HannuJ]

Great game Winnipeg, I am hooked on the CFL

come on board!
curious as to why you're watching the CFL? random? Peter King's article?

i'm one of those guys who lives in a non-CFL city (Toronto. ugg, it's dead here) and will take CFL football over NFL any day. especially now, where every team has a quality QB at the helm.

 

[ps241]

come on board!
curious as to why you're watching the CFL? random? Peter King's article?

i'm one of those guys who lives in a non-CFL city (Toronto. ugg, it's dead here) and will take CFL football over NFL any day. especially now, where every team has a quality QB at the helm.

I like both the CFL and NFL for their differences. CFL has upped their game allot over the years with their TSN coverage. One thing that's going to help the CFL brand is all the new stadiums in Winnipeg, Saskatchewan, Hamilton and Ottawa replacing the old dumps. Glad the CFL continues to grow and is stronger than ever. I think a nice outdoor football stadium wouldn't hurt the CFL in Toronto but its always going to be a bit of a struggle there.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

come on board!
curious as to why you're watching the CFL? random? Peter King's article?

i'm one of those guys who lives in a non-CFL city (Toronto. ugg, it's dead here) and will take CFL football over NFL any day. especially now, where every team has a quality QB at the helm.

Loving that you love CFL out in Toronto. I worked with some people in Sask from near Toronto that loved CFL. Even they said 90% of people didn't care. I loved it that they got onboard (to be honest they did get more on board after pretty much moving out to the west). Argonauts do not get nearly enough credit in their own city. Really wished Ontario would support CFL like the rest of the country. I'll even give you a bye Hannu for being a Argo fan (if you are one) haha.

Great game Winnipeg, I am hooked on the CFL

Awesome. No matter the team I can guarantee you will be entertained if nothing else (and really is there anything else in terms of sports?).

 

[Koonta]

I frikkin love the CFL (even more so when the Bombers are winning)

It's one of the few sports that holds my interest no matter who is playing, I usually watch all the games every week and that's the beauty of the TSN coverage (love the job they do - they even captured a significant rare once in a lifetime occurance on their broadcast when the panel did their '3 downs' and that was showing footage of Milt Stegall eating poutine in Montreal)

Now all the CFL needs to do is expand to the maritimes and it will be all set with 5 in the West and 5 in the East.

 

[SensibleGuy]

Yeah I'd really like there to be a team in the Maritimes. Would really cement the "C" in CFL what with spanning the entire nation from west to east.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

I frikkin love the CFL (even more so when the Bombers are winning)

It's one of the few sports that holds my interest no matter who is playing, I usually watch all the games every week and that's the beauty of the TSN coverage (love the job they do - they even captured a significant rare once in a lifetime occurance on their broadcast when the panel did their '3 downs' and that was showing footage of Milt Stegall eating poutine in Montreal)

Now all the CFL needs to do is expand to the maritimes and it will be all set with 5 in the West and 5 in the East.

Agreed. Although I'd argue if Quebec could get a CFL field they'd be a WAY better option than the maritimes. Laval as a mere CIS team averages over 14K per game (compared to the meager 2-3K U of M attendance). Quebec as a province has been producing more CFL players than anywhere since they are really football mad the past 10-15 years (no stats sorry). Quebec City is almost (or as) close to Fredericton and Moncton as Halifax, although I might very well be wrong there. Quebec City could be a great market they just need a CFL stadium.

 

[KingBogo]

Way to go Blue. Very exciting game. Got to love Willy's compete level.

 

[Koonta]

Agreed. Although I'd argue if Quebec could get a CFL field they'd be a WAY better option than the maritimes. Laval as a mere CIS team averages over 14K per game (compared to the meager 2-3K U of M attendance). Quebec as a province has been producing more CFL players than anywhere since they are really football mad the past 10-15 years (no stats sorry). Quebec City is almost (or as) close to Fredericton and Moncton as Halifax, although I might very well be wrong there. Quebec City could be a great market they just need a CFL stadium.

Yeah, maybe they should expand to either the maritimes or Quebec City and then move the Argos to the other .... (Jk... I know the CFL needs Toronto)

I think both Quebec City and Atlantic Canada would be great markets so if you eventually expanded to 6 in the East could there be anywhere in the West that a 6th team be added to have the divisions equal or maybe that wouldn't matter in the end.

Anyway all that's a long way down the road.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

Yeah, maybe they should expand to either the maritimes or Quebec City and then move the Argos to the other .... (Jk... I know the CFL needs Toronto)

I think both Quebec City and Atlantic Canada would be great markets so if you eventually expanded to 6 in the East could there be anywhere in the West that a 6th team be added to have the divisions equal or maybe that wouldn't matter in the end.

Anyway all that's a long way down the road.

CFL has absolutely no need of Toronto. I mean I'd love if Toronto populace could understand that NFL considers them a joke and that CFL offers an exciting affordable brand of football you can't have south of the border. However if they haven't by now (20+ years of this being the case, ie Flutie) it doesn't seem likely. Toronto doesn't generate near the same ticket or sales numbers that the west or Quebec (province) does. At this point if Braley can sell his second team to a legit CFL market in Quebec City or Maritimes it'd be a win for the CFL. Screw Toronto, we really don't need them anymore than the NFL, the West and Quebec drive the CFL.