TV: Big Brother: General Discussion

[shakes the clown]

anyone watching? This season has been an improvement over the last several seasons. Not that the bar is high, but at least this season there hasn't been one dominant alliance or player steamrolling the rest of the house.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

anyone watching? This season has been an improvement over the last several seasons. Not that the bar is high, but at least this season there hasn't been one dominant alliance or player steamrolling the rest of the house.

I'm watching. Really loving this season to be honest. Lot of solid gameplay, lots of drama, and fluid voting blocks as opposed to Alliance A vs. Alliance B.

I think one thing that I also really like is that most of the players really seem to like each other, but they're still playing hard.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

This season hasn’t been that bad, but they are starting to take out the better players now, and I have a feeling we’re headed for a mediocre winner.

 

[shakes the clown]

This season hasn’t been that bad, but they are starting to take out the better players now, and I have a feeling we’re headed for a mediocre winner.

oh we are definitely heading to a mediocre winner. Chelsea is the last person in the house who has played a good well rounded game. Once she leaves the next best player left in the house is Angela.

Rubina and Kimo have played the same game and now have no allies other than each other.

Cam is furniture.

Makensy has had zero social game or awareness of what is going on in the house.

Leah same as above, but when she finally got power she completely screwed it up by not nominating TKor AND Chelsea together which was her only path to breaking up the two groups of 3.


Angela is insane and has blown up several games of people who genuinely wanted to work with her, but at the end of the day she's won some comps. I have her clearly as the #2 player in the house now behind Chelsea.

 

[WeThreeKings]

anyone watching? This season has been an improvement over the last several seasons. Not that the bar is high, but at least this season there hasn't been one dominant alliance or player steamrolling the rest of the house.

I am - as much as I didn't like the person, Tucker was an amazing comp beast and really spiced things up by not wanting things to go stale and boring. Total props to him.

The BB AI and 3 people on the block were really good twists that I hope they use going forward a bit more, it allowed for a bit more gameplay and uncertainty on who would go home.

I just can't stand Angela and wish she would have gone home a lot sooner.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

I am - as much as I didn't like the person, Tucker was an amazing comp beast and really spiced things up by not wanting things to go stale and boring. Total props to him.

The BB AI and 3 people on the block were really good twists that I hope they use going forward a bit more, it allowed for a bit more gameplay and uncertainty on who would go home.

I just can't stand Angela and wish she would have gone home a lot sooner.

I really liked the 3 people on the block with the AI challenges as well. Added another element to the strategy and maneuverability of players on the block.

Agreed about Angela also. The way she works the other houseguests I bet she constantly asks to talk to the manager and argues for why she should get free stuff and discounts. I also don't like players who come off as dishonest in their Diary Room sessions, and she seems to try to twist everything that happens to make herself look better in the DR.

 

[shakes the clown]

I really liked the 3 people on the block with the AI challenges as well. Added another element to the strategy and maneuverability of players on the block.

Agreed about Angela also. The way she works the other houseguests I bet she constantly asks to talk to the manager and argues for why she should get free stuff and discounts. I also don't like players who come off as dishonest in their Diary Room sessions, and she seems to try to twist everything that happens to make herself look better in the DR.

I am - as much as I didn't like the person, Tucker was an amazing comp beast and really spiced things up by not wanting things to go stale and boring. Total props to him.

The BB AI and 3 people on the block were really good twists that I hope they use going forward a bit more, it allowed for a bit more gameplay and uncertainty on who would go home.

I just can't stand Angela and wish she would have gone home a lot sooner.

lol, I see it totally differently. Loved Tucker, he was fantastic. Too bad he didn't stick around longer.

Love Angela. She's responsible for about 50% of the entertainment the entire season. she's a trainwreck in the best possible sense.


In general I root for entertaining players and dislike gamebots and people who refuse to take chances while playing. Couldn't stand the TKORR3000 and was so glad when she got voted out. Hated her ever since she put Tucker on the block which, btw, was an idiotic and selfish move by TKor.


That said, I absolutely LOVE TKor's accent. I think its a mix of London and Brooklyn. She should get a career doing books on tape. I would buy whatever book she did, I could listen to her just read the dictionary and be entertained.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Makensy lost any respect I had for her game or her persona after putting her best friend in the house on the block as a re-nom to be evicted because her “friend” that is using her as a puppet to make moves that benefit her, not Makensy, convinced her. She couldn’t even come up with a good reason. She just went along with it because she’s weak willed.

Didn’t like how Rubina acted. How does it advance Rubina in the game to get Leah eliminated? That three (Chelsie+2 puppets) will easily take out her two. And she did it to someone who was trying to build a bridge with her. She’s a petty loser. Mad that her alliance member was eliminated last week. Someone that needed to go because she had no chance beating that alliance member. Rubina’s been a piece of furniture. Other than crying and having sex with a guy 10 years younger than her, she’s not been on the show.

Rooting for Angela at this point. Only person I remotely like, if Leah goes. I don’t dislike Kimo, so wouldn’t be appalled if he won. Not a Chelsie fan at all, but credit to her that she’s playing a decent game. Angela and then Chelsie would be my order of most deserving winners. Probably Kimo next. Maybe Leah if she somehow survives.

 

[shakes the clown]

Makensy lost any respect I had for her game or her persona after putting her best friend in the house on the block as a re-nom to be evicted because her “friend” that is using her as a puppet to make moves that benefit her, not Makensy, convinced her. She couldn’t even come up with a good reason. She just went along with it because she’s weak willed.

Didn’t like how Rubina acted. How does it advance Rubina in the game to get Leah eliminated? That three (Chelsie+2 puppets) will easily take out her two. And she did it to someone who was trying to build a bridge with her. She’s a petty loser. Mad that her alliance member was eliminated last week. Someone that needed to go because she had no chance beating that alliance member. Rubina’s been a piece of furniture. Other than crying and having sex with a guy 10 years younger than her, she’s not been on the show.

Rooting for Angela at this point. Only person I remotely like, if Leah goes. I don’t dislike Kimo, so wouldn’t be appalled if he won. Not a Chelsie fan at all, but credit to her that she’s playing a decent game. Angela and then Chelsie would be my order of most deserving winners. Probably Kimo next. Maybe Leah if she somehow survives.

I’ve had no respect for Makensy since the first week of the game. Here is a summary of her game all year:

Won first secret advantage, immediately admitted she had it as soon as one person grilled her on it. Then failed to use it to save her #1 ally who then went home. Then she never used it.

Socially, failed to be a part of ANY alliances for the first 2 months of the show. Bonded early with Leah, but never was shown talking strategy with her the entire season. Finally she fell into a 3some with Chelsea and Cam and then immediately let Chelsea use her to do her bidding during her HOH and go rid of of Leah. Why did she get rid of Leah? Because she was targeting Chelsea. Not targeting Makensy, but targeting Chelsea. Never mind there are 7 people left in the game at this point and you have to target someone, Makensy was too stupid to think about how she was going to advance her game past the games of Chelsea and Cam and as a result allowed the only person guaranteed to be loyal to her to be voted out.


Leah is an idiot too who got what she deserved. I said when she failed to nominate Chelsea and TKorr she had ended her own game and basically given the win the Chelsea. I was glad to see her finally realize that when she was dead woman walking.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

2 hours is a bit too long of an episode for me, tbh. I'm guessing they're probably trying not to compete too much with Survivor.

Cam is totally useless lol. No game, sucks in challenges (especially for a D1 athelete), never has any clue what's going on. He didn't even know who his father was referring to in his special message from home. I don't particularly dislike any of the players, but none of the ones left stick out to me as someone I really like or want to win.

 

[shakes the clown]

2 hours is a bit too long of an episode for me, tbh. I'm guessing they're probably trying not to compete too much with Survivor.

Cam is totally useless lol. No game, sucks in challenges (especially for a D1 athelete), never has any clue what's going on. He didn't even know who his father was referring to in his special message from home. I don't particularly dislike any of the players, but none of the ones left stick out to me as someone I really like or want to win.

I don't like any of them but I guess I'm rooting for Chelsea since she is the only one left who deserves it.

If Chelsea stabs Makensy in the back along the way I'll even start to like Chelsea.

 

[Scotianhab]

Makensy or Chelsie are both deserving as winners. Both have a lot of Comp victories on their resumes. Cam needs to go next week.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Makensy is not deserving. She got conned by Chelsie. Kimo over Makensy, if he’s even still in the house. Had it on in the background last episode. I’m becoming tuned out from what’s going on. These people all suck.

 

[JetsFan815]

This has been one of the better seasons, the AI Arena is one of the best twists ever and hope it becomes a staple of the show. Unfortunately the season kinda cratered for me after the double eviction where Leah and Angela left, those two were the only ones offering some resistance to the Chelsea, everyone else is playing for her to win, which good for her but doesn't exactly make the best viewing experience. This season has also been an improvement in how they edit the show which is good.

Big Brother as a game format is quite possibly the best one compared to all of it's "social strategy game" brethren, the format is better than Survivor, in survivor all you need to do is stay in the majority and you're fine, in Big Brother that is not enough due to the HoH. As such it should be undisputed in terms of the kind of show it is.

Unfortunately what holds BB back is some of the casting, every season they cast a few complete non-factors who don't even want to play the game and are just warm bodies (and this is not a new thing, I see people praising Season 14 in this thread but that season also had it's share of duds like Jenn etc), and these people can absolutely ruin a season. This season there were people like Rubina, Cam, Kimo who fit that bill. Additionally they keep casting players who don't know the game and put no research into it and it results in every season we see players making the same type of mistakes which is boring (for example what Mackenzie is doing this season is the same shit Bowie Jane did last season). I would love to see a BB season where everyone was a Quinn type who knew the game and was playing hard. If BB cast their seasons like Survivor it would easily be the best show in the reality genre.

Makensy or Chelsie are both deserving as winners. Both have a lot of Comp victories on their resumes. Cam needs to go next week.

Mackenzie is not deserving. Comp wins don't determine a good winner. Mackenzie has been snowed every week pretty much and evicted her allies like Leah on her own HoH. She has come dangerously close to being evicted herself due to those bad moves (she was very close to getting evicted during the Double Eviction apparently).

 

[Scotianhab]

Makensy is not deserving. She got conned by Chelsie. Kimo over Makensy, if he’s even still in the house. Had it on in the background last episode. I’m becoming tuned out from what’s going on. These people all suck.

Sorry I’m no Makensy fan but to suggest Kimo over her if he was still there is a joke. He’s floated through most of the season. He’s survived the block a lot but in my books you get points for staying off the block. It’s moot now anyways.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I thought Kimo was respectable. I had nothing against the guy. I didn't really like him arguing to keep him because of his identity. No one cares that he's gay or from Hawaii. That's weak, but other than that I thought he was a respectable person.

I'm not even a Chelsie fan. Don't like her, in fact, but I respect that she's played a decent game.

All the others outside of those two I have negative amounts of respect for.

 

[shakes the clown]

Makensy or Chelsie are both deserving as winners. Both have a lot of Comp victories on their resumes. Cam needs to go next week.

Makensy is the least deserving person left. Winning comps is the least important element of a resume compared to social game and strategic game. On top of that, does winning really deserve to be praised if you failed to do anything but hurt your own game when you had power?

Won an advantage day 1 = failed to use it to save her #1 ally.
Won an HOH = allowed Chelsea to use her to get rid of Makensy's #1 ally

Strategically, she is far and away the worst player left in the game. Hasn't formed a single alliance the entire year. Fell into a 3rd wheel alliance with Cam and Chelsea, but is now too stupid to realize that Cam is the perfect goat and is instead trying to get him eliminated.

Socially, she is likeable, but has been left out of EVERY alliance in the first 2 months of the game.

 

[shakes the clown]

I thought Kimo was respectable. I had nothing against the guy. I didn't really like him arguing to keep him because of his identity. No one cares that he's gay or from Hawaii. That's weak, but other than that I thought he was a respectable person.

I'm not even a Chelsie fan. Don't like her, in fact, but I respect that she's played a decent game.

All the others outside of those two I have negative amounts of respect for.

I also didn't like Kimo using his minority/gay status to try and stay in the game, but I also recognize that that nonsense actually works with the morons they put on these shows these days so I don't fault him for doing it.

Remember the Cookout? All the white people were so scared to call out a black person alliance that they instead opted to allow themselves to get run out of a game where $750,000 is at stake. They would rather lose $750,000 than risk people being mean to them on twitter.

 

[Scotianhab]

Makensy is the least deserving person left. Winning comps is the least important element of a resume compared to social game and strategic game. On top of that, does winning really deserve to be praised if you failed to do anything but hurt your own game when you had power?

Won an advantage day 1 = failed to use it to save her #1 ally.
Won an HOH = allowed Chelsea to use her to get rid of Makensy's #1 ally

Strategically, she is far and away the worst player left in the game. Hasn't formed a single alliance the entire year. Fell into a 3rd wheel alliance with Cam and Chelsea, but is now too stupid to realize that Cam is the perfect goat and is instead trying to get him eliminated.

Socially, she is likeable, but has been left out of EVERY alliance in the first 2 months of the game.

I hope Chelsea wins don’t get me wrong, but if for some reason Chelsea gets evicted then Makensy should be the next choice. Cam and Rubina have basically floated the whole game. Comp victories are still important to jury members which will give her the advantage. If Chelsea/Makensy were smart theyd try to take Cam to the end. They would both win unanimous.

 

[shakes the clown]

I hope Chelsea wins don’t get me wrong, but if for some reason Chelsea gets evicted then Makensy should be the next choice. Cam and Rubina have basically floated the whole game. Comp victories are still important to jury members which will give her the advantage. If Chelsea/Makensy were smart theyd try to take Cam to the end. They would both win unanimous.

I don't agree that Makensy is the next choice. I would have her ahead of Cam, but behind Rubina and Kimo. Kimo and Rubina didn't float, they formed an early and effective alliance with TKorr3000 and Tucker. But the TKorr3000 failed to boot up properly and nominated Tucker which ruined that alliance. I will agree that from that point on, Kimo and Rubina did little to improve their standing in the game and just sat there and accepted their fate.

But, I still have them ahead of Makensy who actively ruined her own game with every decision she made, never bothered to join an alliance until there were 7 people left in the house and used the little power she had to ruin her own game at every turn.


And now she is trying to get to the final 2 with Chelsea who would beat her unanimously in any jury vote.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

I hope Chelsea wins don’t get me wrong, but if for some reason Chelsea gets evicted then Makensy should be the next choice. Cam and Rubina have basically floated the whole game. Comp victories are still important to jury members which will give her the advantage. If Chelsea/Makensy were smart theyd try to take Cam to the end. They would both win unanimous.

It's almost comical how incompetent Cam is in every single aspect of this game lol. Even in physical challenges, as a former D1 athlete he was just hapless. When you're doping so badly in challenges that people accuse you of throwing that's just embarrassing.

Chelsie definitely deserves to win at this point.

 

[shakes the clown]

don't get me wrong, I think Rubina and Kimo would both be terrible winners. I just think Makensy will be an even worse winner. I look at it like this. Who had a worse hockey game? The forward who floated around the ice all game, barely touched the puck and ended up even. Or the forward who was more involved, but had several bad turnovers at the blue line that lead to goals?

 

[Scotianhab]

don't get me wrong, I think Rubina and Kimo would both be terrible winners. I just think Makensy will be an even worse winner. I look at it like this. Who had a worse hockey game? The forward who floated around the ice all game, barely touched the puck and ended up even. Or the forward who was more involved, but had several bad turnovers at the blue line that lead to goals?

Sorry I disagree, to think Rubina deserves to win over Makensy is asinine. Mistakes she made or not, makensy deserves to win over Rubina or Cam.
Order of deserving winners

Chelsea
Makensy
Rubina




Cam

Let’s all hope Chelsea pulls it off

 

[shakes the clown]

Sorry I disagree, to think Rubina deserves to win over Makensy is asinine. Mistakes she made or not, makensy deserves to win over Rubina or Cam.
Order of deserving winners

Chelsea
Makensy
Rubina




Cam

Let’s all hope Chelsea pulls it off

I guess it's like arguing which is better, a plate of dog poo or a bowl of dog poo. I'm going with plate and you're going with bowl. Cam would be dog poo directly on teh bottom of your shoe.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I also didn't like Kimo using his minority/gay status to try and stay in the game, but I also recognize that that nonsense actually works with the morons they put on these shows these days so I don't fault him for doing it.

Remember the Cookout? All the white people were so scared to call out a black person alliance that they instead opted to allow themselves to get run out of a game where $750,000 is at stake. They would rather lose $750,000 than risk people being mean to them on twitter.

That alliance was totally racist, and if a bunch of white people tried to vote based on race, I think CBS would auto-evict them. Double standards.