Olympics: Bettman hints NHL won't play in 2018 and 2022
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Uhm, because in the US and Canada nobody cares about the World Championships. Secondly, I want the best refs on the games, regardless of what country they are from. Is the US is playing Canada, I'd rather have A Canadian ref over a neutral ref if the Canadian ref is the best available. If it was US-Sweden, and the best ref was Swedish, then give me the Swedish ref.
Umm.. No. Finnish player playing in a jersey which got Finland text written on it.. Nat feds would have something to say about that. Especially if it sold out, with impression it's Finnish nat team.
They simply would have to refrain using country names, colours etc..
But like others, this idea of 2 mixed teams is absolutely stupid.
This tourney will happen with the IIHF or not, with the European Federations or not. If they can't call a team "Team Russia", you can officially call them Europe 1, Europe 2 and so forth. Dumb, but it will get the job done. Could probably also simply call them, "Russians", "Swedes", "Finns", etc.
Secondly, don't think for one second the NHL is going to be strong-armed by the IIHF into continuing to go to the Olympics.
This tourney will happen with the IIHF or not, with the European Federations or not. If they can't call a team "Team Russia", you can officially call them Europe 1, Europe 2 and so forth. Dumb, but it will get the job done. Could probably also simply call them, "Russians", "Swedes", "Finns", etc.
Secondly, don't think for one second the NHL is going to be strong-armed by the IIHF into continuing to go to the Olympics.
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First of all it's
NHL vs. NHLPA, IOC, IIHF, Pyeongchang 2018 Organizing committee.
Lots of discussion and key International people will be in on this before they even contemplate such a radical move. And like the NHL players will let the NHL just say oh we're not going, it's going to get bloody and thank god for that.
Stupid idea for sure. And NHL will make this happen, if they want. With/out IIHF and nat feds.
Still think nat feds owns everyrights to any impression of nat team. so europe1 etc works only.
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The floated idea about the World Cup having Euro leftover all-star teams is as bad of an idea as the 2022 Winter Olympics host city bid process. Unless compromises are made by all sides the future of international hockey competitions looks bleak.
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http://www.olympic.org/news/olympic...uture-of-the-olympic-movement-unveiled/241063
Olympic Agenda 2020: Strategic roadmap for the future of the Olympic Movement unveiled just today.
It's changing for the better.
I can't see the players standing for this.
The Slovaks/Swiss will recoil at the idea of swaping their national jerseys for some "Euro" squad, especially while everyone else keeps theirs. A slap in the face.
Finns, Czechs and Russians will know their teams will be weakened without players from the Euro leagues. And even players from teams that will, or could, be entirely NHL (Canada, USA and Sweden) will know a farce when they see one.
Sweden could field a full NHL lineup, but we've got some players outside of the NHL that would at the very least compete for some spots. (Not really a reply to the quoted, but I figured I could add to his).
Interesting:
Recommendation 8
Forge relationships with professional leagues
Invest in and forge relationships with professional leagues and structures via the respective
International Federations with the aim of:
• Ensuring participation by the best athletes
• Recognising the different nature and constraints of each of the professional leagues
• Adopting the most appropriate collaboration model on an ad-hoc basis in cooperation with
each relevant International Federation
Yeah, based on what is in the article, it would be strictly a money-grab. With that in mind, the players would do it to increase revenues and if they are getting their piece of the pie. It may work once or twice as a novelty, but I think it would lose its luster fairly quickly.
There is one thing about all that. They could make NHL only tournament and even call it World Cup. But what they surely couldn't do is to call participating teams as team Russia, team Finland and team Sweden without national federations approval. Because even if they have the guts for such impertinence, most players from those countries wouldn't go against their federations and wouldn't participate in that scam.
Well that's my point... The only group with any significant power are the players.
There was the time when NHL guys weren't allowed to participate in IIHF tournaments and Canada have actually boycotted those tournaments because of it. Do you really think that now it can be a threat for IIHF? Seriously?
It wasn't the NHL who had a problem with NHL players being barred from IIHF tournaments, it was Canada's national fed. I think the NHL would have been perfectly fine (probable preferred it) if the IIHF never lifted the ban on NHL players participating in their tournaments.
So why is leaving the olympics even in the discussion? We already know the Russians won't consider not playing, and every single Swede who's ever talked about it media has been 100% for the olympics. While at the same time they've been mostly "meh, whatever, take it or leave it" with the world cup.
So, this is a non-issue?
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So why is leaving the olympics even in the discussion? We already know the Russians won't consider not playing, and every single Swede who's ever talked about it media has been 100% for the olympics.
So, this is a non-issue?
I should have said along with the NHL/NHL team owners (I assumed that was understood as a given) it appears the players are the only group with any real power... I think we all know what group is the issue between those two.
Well let's put it this way, there's plenty of superstars that would leave for the olympics regardless of what the NHL say.
One thing to say that, another to risk their contracts and do it. Secondly, if the NHL opts out, then the IIHF could prohibit those with an NHL contract from playing.
Why should the NHL be concerned about the European fan? Just like the Czech League, the SEL, and KHL really shouldn't be concerned with the North American fan. Each league has to do what they think their fan base wants.
If the NHL and IIHF come to an agreement for a World Cup, and Sweden, Finland, etc all get on board. Should the KHL cave to make the Canadian and American fan happy?
You know that we also have option to order NHL games from viasat
more orders = more money..
You know that we also have option to order NHL games from viasat
more orders = more money..
Yes, and I am sure the NHL is really breaking the bank with those orders.
No, they wouldn't. Maybe a very small number, but most will be trying to make the playoffs and win games with the same group of people they've been with for at least all season. If this was the prestigious Olympics of 1998-2014, maybe they go for the intensely-high level of competition and to be part of the best roster the country can assemble, but not if it's the best of the Euro leagues etc in South Korea.
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Great news! I'm very excited. 
Can't wait to see team Finland on ice. It will be so entertaining.
Can't wait to see team Finland on ice. It will be so entertaining.J Jokinen (L) - Lehterä (C) - Mi Granlund (C)
Määttä (D) - Vatanen (D)
Korpikoski (L) - Koivu (C) - Komarov (L/R)
Ristolainen (D) - Jokipakka/Lindbohm (D)
Barkov (C) - Filppula (C) - Ma Granlund (C)
Haula (C) - O Jokinen (C)
Lehtonen (G) - Raanta (G) - Rämö (G)
Bäckström (G) - Niemi (G)
Rinne (G) / Rask (G)
Ruutu
Joensuu
Bergenheim
Määttä (D) - Vatanen (D)
Korpikoski (L) - Koivu (C) - Komarov (L/R)
Ristolainen (D) - Jokipakka/Lindbohm (D)
Barkov (C) - Filppula (C) - Ma Granlund (C)
Haula (C) - O Jokinen (C)
Lehtonen (G) - Raanta (G) - Rämö (G)
Bäckström (G) - Niemi (G)
Rinne (G) / Rask (G)
Ruutu
Joensuu
Bergenheim
This really might be the worst idea in the history of international hockey.
Seriously, what else comes close?
Seriously, what else comes close?
Except it wasn't my point completely. Players won't go against federations will, because it isn't worth the trouble. But NHL could always try to sell tournament with teams named Europe 1,2,3,4.
Only problem that I don't see here much enthusiasm about such possibility even from NA posters. Who cares about NHL? Your points was that it could be a threat for IIHF. But it wouldn't.
Which countries are going to play in the World cup if the KHL decides they don't want to take part? Is it going to be USA, Canada and a crippled Sweden (we've got some european based players fighting for roster spots)? The other countries teams based off of amateurs? The way I see this, the NHL can not do this tournament without the support of IIHF/KHL.
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