Value of: Best top 6 center available for 2026 1st+Robertson+Cowan
- Thread starter Edgelord
- Start date
-
Work is still on-going to rebuild the site styling and features. Please report any issues you may experience so we can look into it. Click Here for Updates
Habs Halifax
Loyal Habs Fan
This Habs fan will back up the Leafs on this. Cowan is a solid B+ prospect and the WJC failure by team Canada was their managers. Cowan is not your typical offensive leader Canada usually leans on. Manager usage is not Cowan's fault.
- Jan 22, 2010
- 10,654
- 6,011
Keep drinking that Toronto sports media juice. The rest of the world finds it amusing that you believe this kind of nonsense.
Torontonian
Registered User
At least you understand it. That entire WJC failure was on management. If you are relying on Cowan to be your offensive catalyst on your team, then you already have set your team up for failure.
Very doubtful he becomes a top line winger, but he has continued to improve dating back to his draft year, even though the point total is lower this year. I see him more as a 2nd line winger or a very good 3rd line winger.
Habs Halifax
Loyal Habs Fan
I had the same hope with Poehling. His NCAA and world juniors were very solid. Cowan to me projects as a 3rd liner and maybe middle 6F at best... if he reaches is ceiling. Not saying he follows the Poehling road path exactly but I do think 2nd line is a reach for someone like Cowan.
You will know right away when he turns pro. Look at Knies. He shined right away and that's when you know you got a top 6F. Cowan to me will be on a longer develop road and the highest I would say is middle 6F at best. My gut says 3rd liner type talent.
Newhook might be a good comparison.
I think what you will find is there aren't many top 6 centers available and several teams would like to add one.
So your "huge package" is really just a middling offer for guys that aren't really available.
It certainly isn't enough to land Pettersson and it's not enough to convince teams that are not selling to sell.
Unless you can convince Buffalo to give up Cozens the suggestion of Brock Nelson seems like the probable answer to the question "who is the best center I can get with Robertson/1st/Cowan?"
What's Cowan's ceiling? If it is a 3C, he should absolutely be available. His numbers so far don't seem to suggest a top 6 C for the NHL.
If that's the case, trade him and bring in a legit top 6 C. The window is now, bring in a guy who can make a legitimate difference now.
If that's the case, trade him and bring in a legit top 6 C. The window is now, bring in a guy who can make a legitimate difference now.
Ceiling is a middle 6 winger, who plays with energy and kills penalties and scores 20 goals.
He’s not going to be a huge scorer in the show.
...the well-travelled Brian Boucher holds the record for Shutout Streak in the NHL @ 332 minutes and 1 second, had a shutout in 5 straight games...never been done before or since...streaks happen...Cowan ranks in the mid twenties or so on most Prospect lists; you know, by those people that get paid to watch and rank them for a living...I know, Reality can be a difficult place to hang around sometimes, but it's the only game in town...
Fledgemyhedge
Registered User
come on man he’s having a mid season. Nowhere near top prospect caliber season
Habs Halifax
Loyal Habs Fan
he had 3 points in 5 games at the WJC
half a sack ...
The truth is in the middle... Not as good as what "some" Leafs fans are saying but better than what "some" other fans are devaluing him. I just don't understand why fans can't play nice on these boards.
...cuz we're opposing fans and Humans aren't exactly known for playing nice...we should be better, but we aren't, unfortunately...
Habs Halifax
Loyal Habs Fan
...cuz we're opposing fans and Humans aren't exactly known for playing nice...we should be better, but we aren't, unfortunately...
View attachment 972352
It's a culture and I think the bad apples run it for the bunch. Lots of gullible people out there that see what others are doing and think it's fun and want to try it as well.
My advice... talk to people on the internet like how you would talk to them face/face. The key board warriors hiding behind a screen, need to be attacked, equally has hard as they spit out belittle narratives. Some of us are here to actually have conversations (disagreements or not). People need to learn how to disagree without throwing out insults. It's not that hard if you try
Doc300c
Registered User
Ignoring your obvious bias towards players for no reason and without looking and “trusting” your statement - imagine being one of the top 30 prospects in the world and having some nobody try and convince everyone you’re hot garbage.
Admittedly by you he’s mid 20’s. Even at top 30 in the world for prospects is an amazing accomplishment. No wonder we’re seeing hate everywhere these days, I’d hate myself if I had to read/see some nobody / internet troll talking shit when they can’t even make it themselves.
I don’t know about you but I’ll gladly welcome any top 20 ish prospect on my team to increase my depth and ensure I can continue to inject players as they develop.
Do yourself a favour and check back into reality. A top 20-ish prospect isn’t worth a nothing because his GM and Coaches in a non league tournament couldn’t get their stuff right.
Next you’re going to tell me you’re only allowed to have 15 top prospects in the world so that you can make your point.
After all. It’s just a game right?
...after all that blah blah blah, did you even read any of my posts and what I was replying to??...cuz I never once trashed Cowan at all; just pointed out REPEATEDLY to a Leaf fan that he is NOT one of the TOP PROSPECTS, that he is ranked in the mid twenties by most and that was OK...so save the Victim Complex and the purse-clutching and actually READ...
doomscroll
Registered User
- Jan 15, 2018
- 915
- 1,226
I would say that package isn’t enough to acquire Nelson only because Lou is too senile to accept it. Cowen and a 1st isn’t a crazy return (I’m discounting Robertson since I don’t think he holds replacement-level value), but the Isles are starved for prospects and that’s basically two first-rounders. Cowen has his question marks, but he has two things the Isles are desperate for - youth and offensive skill.
General Fanager
Registered User
Nogatco Rd
Pierre-Luc Dubas
- Apr 3, 2021
- 4,324
- 7,820
The way you phrase it definitely sounds better than “Scored 3 points for the 5th place team”
I would argue the bias is with anyone trying to frame Cowan’s WJC performance as a positive
Mid 20s is absolutely a top prospect lmao....after all that blah blah blah, did you even read any of my posts and what I was replying to??...cuz I never once trashed Cowan at all; just pointed out REPEATEDLY to a Leaf fan that he is NOT one of the TOP PROSPECTS, that he is ranked in the mid twenties by most and that was OK...so save the Victim Complex and the purse-clutching and actually READ...
In fact, it's a tier of prospect that RARELY gets traded (unless they ask out).
Even top 50 prospects are rarely traded.
It's usually the 50-100 range of prospects you see moved
General Fanager
Registered User
The kid is not Bedard or McDavid but this take is just silly. Cowen did not play well at the WJC, but neither did the entire team. IMO it would be difficult to blame him alone.
That being said the takes from the Leafs side are equally as silly. He is a B+ prospect.
Leaf Fans
Registered User
- Sep 29, 2017
- 21,331
- 9,297
Yeah, it is a better way of phrasing it. Cowan did have a poor performance. It was just the highest scoring of the 5th place team.
