Best player in the world: 2017

[GreatGonzo]

So he wasn't nearly as good as Joe in 06 and barely outscored him the following year and didn't even have a stronger playoff either. Make it make sense for Crosby to get the nod here in light of all the other situations where that would be ignored as merely being a "best season" with the established best player still being considered the best. Over half his points were on the PP no less.

Using @wetcoast logic, Thornton had a rough start of the year in 2006-07(41-11-39-50 -3) but then out scored Crosby the last half of the year(41-11-53-64 +27) to Crosby who was
43-17-41-58 -6. Using the same logic he’s been pushing against Kane, Thornton was actually the better player in 2007, despite finishing only 7 points behind Crosby.

Right, @wetcoast?

 

[wetcoast]

Using @wetcoast logic, Thornton had a rough start of the year in 2006-07(41-11-39-50 -3) but then out scored Crosby the last half of the year(41-11-53-64 +27) to Crosby who was
43-17-41-58 -6. Using the same logic he’s been pushing against Kane, Thornton was actually the better player in 2007, despite finishing only 7 points behind Crosby.

Right, @wetcoast?

You 2 make a great couple......

 

[GreatGonzo]

You 2 make a great couple......

That’s cute. Don’t be upset that you can’t follow your own standards. Be consistent maybe?

Kane out scores Crosby by 21 points but because Crosby PACED 1 point behind him through 60ish games, he was on par or better than Kane.

Thornton out scored Crosby the last half the of the season, why can’t be get the same treatment? You can use a sample size to boost up Crosby but I can’t for Thornton? That’s interesting.

 

[wetcoast]

That’s cute. Don’t be upset that you can’t follow your own standards. Be consistent maybe?

Kane out scores Crosby by 21 points but because Crosby PACED 1 point behind him through 60ish games, he was on par or better than Kane.

Thornton out scored Crosby the last half the of the season, why can’t be get the same treatment? You can use a sample size to boost up Crosby but I can’t for Thornton? That’s interesting.

The Crosby/Kane and Crosby/Thornton were quite a bit different as is every season.

 

[GreatGonzo]

The Crosby/Kane and Crosby/Thornton were quite a bit different as is every season.

Not really. Thornton was only 7 points back compared to crosbys 21 points back on Kane, yet you implied Crosbys offense was just as good as Kanes through a sample size you chose. I simply did the same. Thornton was the better player in 2007, Crosby only had the better season. Am I doing this right?

 

[wetcoast]

Not really. Thornton was only 7 points back compared to crosbys 21 points back on Kane

It's really all about points for you isn't it?

Not for me, I like to look at the whole picture and at the end of the season ask who is the best player in the world right now and who was it last year and which one am I taking to start the next season and it's Crosby for me at that period of time.

, yet you implied Crosbys offense was just as good as Kanes through a sample size you chose. I simply did the same.

Really didn't realize that San Jose switched coaches in 06-07

Thornton was the better player in 2007, Crosby only had the better season. Am I doing this right?

Read above.

 

[norrisnick]

Literally no one is using what will happen in the future for any given year.

The irony is that the OP asked a specific question and it wasn't which player had the best season.

It's really all about points for you isn't it?

Not for me, I like to look at the whole picture and at the end of the season ask who is the best player in the world right now and who was it last year and which one am I taking to start the next season and it's Crosby for me at that period of time.

Huh...

 

[GreatGonzo]

It's really all about points for you isn't it?

Not for me, I like to look at the whole picture and at the end of the season ask who is the best player in the world right now and who was it last year and which one am I taking to start the next season and it's Crosby for me at that period of time.

Really didn't realize that San Jose switched coaches in 06-07

Read above.

So when Crosby leads the league in scoring he’s the best player, and when he doesn’t…he’s still the best player. Gotcha, makes a ton of sense

What does a coaching change have to do with it?

 

[wetcoast]

Huh...

The reference to the first one is that we aren't in 2023 judging the 2107 season based on actually what happened later but at the time guessing and predicting somewhat who one thinks is the best player will do before it actually happens.

So when Crosby leads the league in scoring he’s the best player, and when he doesn’t…he’s still the best player. Gotcha, makes a ton of sense

What does a coaching change have to do with it?

The coach was insisting on the Dmen always making a first pass to the other Dmen instead of making the best play thus the firing but I've already stated that up thread and heck you have probably already replied and quoted said post.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

That’s cute. Don’t be upset that you can’t follow your own standards. Be consistent maybe?

Kane out scores Crosby by 21 points but because Crosby PACED 1 point behind him through 60ish games, he was on par or better than Kane.

Thornton out scored Crosby the last half the of the season, why can’t be get the same treatment? You can use a sample size to boost up Crosby but I can’t for Thornton? That’s interesting.

Didn't know thornton won the smythe and cup in 07. Interesting

 

[GreatGonzo]

The reference to the first one is that we aren't in 2023 judging the 2107 season based on actually what happened later but at the time guessing and predicting somewhat who one thinks is the best player will do before it actually happens.


The coach was insisting on the Dmen always making a first pass to the other Dmen instead of making the best play thus the firing but I've already stated that up thread and heck you have probably already replied and quoted said post.

So Crosby was the victim of bad coaching and that’s why he lost the scoring race by 21 points….any more excuses?

Didn't know thornton won the smythe and cup in 07. Interesting

neither did Crosby. What’s your point? Is that what’s needed to be considered the best?