Best player in the world: 2007

[Dion TheFluff]

Man we've done 10 of these now, how don't you get it's not about calendar year?

Shame on OP for confusing wording. But also shame on posters for not being literate.

eh. I still think it's funner voting based on the calendar year so I'll just keep doing it that way

 

[Realgud]

Zetterberg is definitely not #1 for 2008 - but I agree he should be an option. He's close to top.

Why can't he be #1? 43 goals in 75 games, 13 goals in the playoff, Conn Smythe, shutting down the opposing best players almost every night. An elite goalscorer, elite playmaker, the best defensive forward that year (imo). It doesn't get better than that. To me he was the best player on the ice almost any game I've watched that season.

He's easily my vote.

2007 is Crosby

 

[stempniaksen]

It's Crosby, this one is easy.

He's not going to get a lot of love because he never peaked as high again and his best was as a Thrasher, but Hossa was silly in 06/07. He had 20 more points than his next closest teammate (Kozlov), 24 more than the next best player (Kovalchuk) and 64 (!) more than the 4th highest player (Mellanby). That team was typically only as good as it's 1st line, but that season in particular that whole team was essentially Marian Hossa. He did all the heavy lifting at 5 on 5, average the 3rd most time on the PP behind his linemates and chipped in playing consistent PK time (added 5 of his points on the PK).

Thornton and Lecavalier have a very good case for 2nd behind Crosby, but for this one season give me the best of Marian Hossa's career.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Crosby. Gotta say Selänne had a fantastic year at 36.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Ovechkin led the playoffs in PPG and GPG from 2008-2011.

He was just plain better than Crosby and Malkin, and the Hart/Pearson voting reflects that despite some certain voters probably hating that very much. Crosby was supposed to be the next Gretzky. Ovechkin spoiled the party.

Funny how the pace argument only applies to Ovechkin

 

[Wings4Life]

1) Crosby was not the best player in 07/08. 2) If playoffs are being considered then the winner of every previous poll would change.

Playoff are considered. These are not just regular season polls.

That said, Ovie will be my pick for 2007-08.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Funny how the pace argument only applies to Ovechkin

If you think you have a point here, then whatever point you think I was making sailed right over your head.

 

[nowhereman]

The easy answer here is Crosby. Then OV during his 3 year peak and then back to Sid for a while after that.

 

[klefbombs shoulder]

I do like the concept of these polls but it's tricky to answer when broken up by year and not season.

Either way, the easy answer here is Crosby. Then OV during his 3 year peak and then back to Sid for a while after that.

This poll is about the 06/07 season. See the first comment by the OP in the thread.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Playoff are considered. These are not just regular season polls.

That said, Ovie will be my pick for 2007-08.

Doesn't seem like it. Shouldn't Lidstrom have been the best in 01/02 then over Iginla? Norris, Smythe, cup while Iginla wasn't even in the playoffs. And it's not like Iginla had some all time great regular season to make up the gap Lidstrom had for playoffs.

 

[nowhereman]

This poll is about the 06/07 season. See the first comment by the OP in the thread.

Ahh, missed that! In that case, it makes it even easier for this one.

 

[Malaka]

The easy answer here is Mr. All Star; 50 in 07 Dany Heatley

FTFY

 

[Voight]

Fractured toe in March is the culprit. It is well documented


Meh it was clear in 07-08 Crosby was still the best player in the world as the majority of the hockey world was thinking going into 08-09

Lol what is this revisionist history. By "majority ofd the hockey world" you must mean Penguins fans.

 

[Wings4Life]

Doesn't seem like it. Shouldn't Lidstrom have been the best in 01/02 then over Iginla? Norris, Smythe, cup while Iginla wasn't even in the playoffs. And it's not like Iginla had some all time great regular season to make up the gap Lidstrom had for playoffs.

I can see your point, but not being in the playoffs is different than having a poor playoffs.

 

[End of Line]

Don’t put the weight on my shoulders, this time I clarified in the OP that it’s about 06/07 season

Put it in the title then

 

[TheGuiminator]

Crosby

His Sid the Kid years were special, and as someone said, he looked like the next Gretzky for the first half of the season. Even though he slowed down in the second half, he still finished with 120 points, becoming the best player in the world in a old man’s league at the time

 

[Chips]

Love to hear your argument fir Datsyuk ahead of crosby in 08-09. This should be a doozy

Didn’t expect him in the lead but im surprised how little votes for Datsyuk because he was for sure getting love then


Marketability is always going to play in though, Datsyuk isn’t really that lol


Back to back Selke + 97 point seasons, and won the Lady Bing both as well which is great combined with his stellar defense. Lots of guys known for defense also take tons of penalties which is a bigger issue people often ignore


Datsyuk had a role but he was dominant in it at his peak

 

[wetcoast]

Man I missed this one and really feel like my vote would have made a difference...

Didn’t expect him in the lead but im surprised how little votes for Datsyuk because he was for sure getting love then


Marketability is always going to play in though, Datsyuk isn’t really that lol


Back to back Selke + 97 point seasons, and won the Lady Bing both as well which is great combined with his stellar defense. Lots of guys known for defense also take tons of penalties which is a bigger issue people often ignore


Datsyuk had a role but he was dominant in it at his peak

What you say is true but even though the gap between Crosby (or any other player someone might think is worthy) this type of voting is an all or nothing thing.

 

[daver]

Didn’t expect him in the lead but im surprised how little votes for Datsyuk because he was for sure getting love then


Marketability is always going to play in though, Datsyuk isn’t really that lol


Back to back Selke + 97 point seasons, and won the Lady Bing both as well which is great combined with his stellar defense. Lots of guys known for defense also take tons of penalties which is a bigger issue people often ignore


Datsyuk had a role but he was dominant in it at his peak

If he had back to back Selke 97 point seasons in 2007 he should be winning this poll.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

If you think you have a point here, then whatever point you think I was making sailed right over your head.

I'd say @Scandale du Jour nailed your point perfectly because the only reason you mention pace versus actual results with regards to playoffs is because you were trying to strengthen Ovechkin's case by mentioning it.

The fact you had to include a "pace" stat to pad Ovechkin's case shows how much of a hypocrite you are when you continuously dismiss any pace stats in Crosby's favor any and every time it's even brought up in his favor.

 

[Regal]

I'd say @Scandale du Jour nailed your point perfectly because the only reason you mention pace versus actual results with regards to playoffs is because you were trying to strengthen Ovechkin's case by mentioning it.

The fact you had to include a "pace" stat to pad Ovechkin's case shows how much of a hypocrite you are when you continuously dismiss any pace stats in Crosby's favor any and every time it's even brought up in his favor.

That’s not true. He’ll bring up Crosby’s 65 point pace Conn Smythe if you ask about the weather

 

[Regal]

Lol what is this revisionist history. By "majority ofd the hockey world" you must mean Penguins fans.

I do think, despite Ovechkin’s overall regular season being better, after the playoffs Crosby was still generally seen as better or at least the better player to build around going into the following year by more hockey people than Ovechkin was. How much of that was due to bias from being Canadian, younger, a center and “the next one” is debatable. I don’t think that’s the question being asked though

 

[Mrb1p]

The Mcdavid stans in this thread are hilarious

 

[Regal]

Doesn't seem like it. Shouldn't Lidstrom have been the best in 01/02 then over Iginla? Norris, Smythe, cup while Iginla wasn't even in the playoffs. And it's not like Iginla had some all time great regular season to make up the gap Lidstrom had for playoffs.

I don’t think the idea is about adding the two together, just that the playoffs gives more information to make a decision. As good as Lidstrom was, defensemen rarely get put on the same level as the best forwards, so I don’t think his playoffs had much of an effect for a lot of voters. You also have a lot of people voting who are likely using slightly different criteria. Some it’s best season, some it’s who they would take in a replay of that season given track record, some it’s the best per game player, etc, so while the winners might not look like playoffs we’re taken into account that doesn’t mean they didn’t have an effect on how people were voting

 

[Midnight Judges]

I'd say @Scandale du Jour nailed your point perfectly because the only reason you mention pace versus actual results with regards to playoffs is because you were trying to strengthen Ovechkin's case by mentioning it.

If you think that's the case then my point sailed right over your head as well.