Value of: Ben Bishop
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Vatican Roulette
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Agreed.
Yes, I would say he is.
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One thing is that Tampa needs cap space in the future, and some now.
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Gecklund
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He's worth much more. Probably about the same or more than what Schneider was worth when he was traded to NJD.
Doubtful. He's older and not signed to a contract extension. 1st, 20-30 range is best case scenario
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He's also a top 3-5 goalie while Schneider was still unproven and considered a backup or a 1B.
Maurice of Orange
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Teams that may take a run at Ben Bishop if he reaches free agency after the 2016-17 season.
Colorado < If they leave Varlamov unprotected to expansion, and he is claimed.
Dallas < If they Trade or buyout Lehtonen or Niemi.
Ottawa < If they Trade or buyout Anderson.
Philadelphia < If they can't re-sign Mason or Neuvirth.
Vancouver < If Vancouver chooses not to re-sign Ryan Miller and lets him walk.
Colorado < If they leave Varlamov unprotected to expansion, and he is claimed.
Dallas < If they Trade or buyout Lehtonen or Niemi.
Ottawa < If they Trade or buyout Anderson.
Philadelphia < If they can't re-sign Mason or Neuvirth.
Vancouver < If Vancouver chooses not to re-sign Ryan Miller and lets him walk.
The only team looking for a starter is Dallas. But they have to move Neimi, or Lethonen. If they were able to move one of them. Maybe a first, second, and an average prospect for Bishop.
The minimum cost of Bishop is fairly high because it is set at TB's willingness to just keep him for a Cup run. The pool of teams that would be interested in a rental of a top-5 goalie for a Playoff or Cup run is pretty shallow. The first and second qualifiers make a Bishop trade unlikely, IMO.
If he were traded... Dallas seems to make the most sense, I could see Carolina being interested if they came out of the gate strong.
If he were traded... Dallas seems to make the most sense, I could see Carolina being interested if they came out of the gate strong.
Maurice of Orange
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Less than Anderson .
I heard Eugene Melnyk wasn't that high on Anderson anymore. This could be his last season in Ottawa if they don't make the playoffs...Ottawa has a new regime in the front office and behind the bench this season also, so if Anderson fails to meet expectations this season he might not be around after.
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With guys like Jones and Lehner (much less proven) going for first round picks last year, there's no doubt in my mind that he should probably be bringing back a first round pick.
And it would be worth it for a team like Dallas to do it, if they can lock him up to an extension.
We all saw last playoffs how a putrid goaltender could sink a good team in a game 7.
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His value will be higher during camp/season than now because of injuries and teams with shocking success that aren't currently in the market for a number 1.
Colorado wouldn't go after him, they have Pickard who's shown potential to be a #1 goalie. Most likely they'd target someone like Neuvirth who can play the 1B position.
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Bishop would have been in a Dallas uniform in June if it wasn't for their two overpaid 1b goalies. Obviously nobody was interested in Lehtonen/Neimi and the price they would have had to pay in a trade on top of buying one of them out was not worth acquiring Bishop for their ownership. That's pretty much what happened. Don't need an "expert" to tell me.
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This. The Lightning have no need to trade Bishop as he'll be off the books next summer and they can clear the small amount of space they need for this upcoming season through other means. This will be their last chance to win a Cup before losing key players to the cap so trading their MVP doesn't make sense unless the return will significantly improve their chances of winning multiple Cups over the next several years. Combine this with their inability to take on cap or protect anybody else from expansion and you're looking at either a stud expansion exempt player/prospect who will be NHL ready within a year or a draft pick high enough to produce such a player.
Another option would be to take on Callahan as a cap dump, but it's unlikely that there's a team out there both good enough to make Cally and Bish waive their NMCs to go to and with enough cap space to afford them both. Filppula is another possibility as a cap dump but unlike Callahan his buyout is quite reasonable so taking him alone wouldn't be enough to get Bishop (and the same issue of cap space would apply.)
Finally the thing to keep in mind is that no trade will occur unless an extension is agreed upon ahead of time - both because Bishop has no reason to waive his NMC and leave a Cup contender for a single season before hitting free agency and because it's incredibly unlikely any team would offer enough for a single season of Bishop to make it worth trading him for the Lightning.
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Until someone goes down for the whole year like Carey Price. Then they come hard on our doorstep.
Vancouver have Markstrom who can take over the reigns after Miller. They are going to give the backup spot to Demko. The question is if he is ready or not by next year. I think it's doubtful. But either way, Vancouver is not going to pay for a Bishop type player with Demko on his way. If we sign someone, then maybe Miller for an additional year or someone with a lesser pedigree.
We are still paying Luongo, Markstrom just got a new deal and Bishop is going to want upwards of 6M. I can't see us paying more than 12M for one position.
