Bedard vs Celebrini vs Hagens vs McKenna

[Hockeyville USA]

I could see McKenna being better than Bedard

 

[ORRFForever]

I could see McKenna being better than Bedard

Because of Bedard's height (or lack thereof) / durability?

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Because of Bedard's height (or lack thereof) / durability?

I see McKenna as slightly shiftier (more shifty?) and dynamic at the same age than Bedard was. I'm also lower on Bedard than most because his defensive play is awful.

 

[ORRFForever]

I see McKenna as slightly shiftier (more shifty?) and dynamic at the same than Bedard was. I'm also lower on Bedard than most because his defensive play is awful.

McKenna may be super shifty but I believe Bedard is the shiftiest.

 

[scoutman1]

Bedard > McKeena > Hagens = Celebrini

I think when doing the Hagens and Celebrini comparison we have to give Hagens the time in NCAA to start to get his confidence and his game will change a bit, he will become faster and stronger like Celebrini did....Macklin will be the better all around player IMO but Hagens IQ is different than Hagens in the offensive zone, Celebrini uses speed and transition to create oppertunity where Hagens controls the ice, slows the pace down and speeds it up, his vision is better, Hagens is a better offensive conductor where Celebrini is a lot more flash and speed....

 

[Corso]

Bedard > McKeena > Hagens = Celebrini

I think when doing the Hagens and Celebrini comparison we have to give Hagens the time in NCAA to start to get his confidence and his game will change a bit, he will become faster and stronger like Celebrini did....Macklin will be the better all around player IMO but Hagens IQ is different than Hagens in the offensive zone, Celebrini uses speed and transition to create oppertunity where Hagens controls the ice, slows the pace down and speeds it up, his vision is better Hagens is a better offensive conductor where Celebrini is a lot more flash and speed....

Excellent analysis! I truly believe that it will be Hagens' on ice intelligence that will solidify his 1OA spot.

 

[BlueFC]

I just want to hear Joe Bowen scream holllyyyyyy McKennnnnaaaaaaa what a goal

 

[Just Linda]

McKenna may be super shifty but I believe Bedard is the shiftiest.

Depends what you mean by shifty.

If you mean tricky and deceptive, able to fool defenders and leave them guessing what he'll do with the puck. Absolutely. I wouldn't call that shifty though.

If you mean slippery and sneaky, able to get lost by defenders on the ice and sneak into positions that they don't expect, that's not his game at all. That's what I consider shifty to be.

The reason I don't think Bedard will ever be on the same level as McDavid or Crosby is because he lacks that shiftiness, he doesn't get lost by defenders and uses his elite skill to set up and make plays. Very much a Stamkos in that way but with less size, more creativity.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Depends what you mean by shifty.

If you mean tricky and deceptive, able to fool defenders and leave them guessing what he'll do with the puck. Absolutely. I wouldn't call that shifty though.

If you mean slippery and sneaky, able to get lost by defenders on the ice and sneak into positions that they don't expect, that's not his game at all. That's what I consider shifty to be.

The reason I don't think Bedard will ever be on the same level as McDavid or Crosby is because he lacks that shiftiness, he doesn't get lost by defenders and uses his elite skill to set up and make plays. Very much a Stamkos in that way but with less size, more creativity.

Bedard is Kane's playmaking with Stamkos/prime Kovalchuk type shooting ceiling. Problem is, he hasn't really shown the ability to get that shot off without a ton of space. And he obviously cannot one T a puck like Stamkos and Kovalchuk

 

[MNRube]

Bedard is Kane's playmaking with Stamkos/prime Kovalchuk type shooting ceiling. Problem is, he hasn't really shown the ability to get that shot off without a ton of space. And he obviously cannot one T a puck like Stamkos and Kovalchuk

I agree with the sentiment here but think you are underselling Kane’s playmaking. He had more hockey IQ & patience than Bedard by a substantial margin.

I’ve never been a believer that Bedard is a special prospect a la McDavid or Crosby. He’s always felt like a Matthews, Eichel, MacKinnon level prospect to me. But I could be proven wrong

 

[Intangir]

To me the ranking of the four would go like this:

McKenna
Bedard
Celebrini
Hagens

 

[TT1]

comparable in terms of impact on a team

McKenna = MacKinnon
Bedard = Kane
Hagens = Jack Hughes
Celebrini = Tavares/Giroux type, harder to say for him

 

[LilLeeroy]

Bedard > McKeena > Hagens = Celebrini

I think when doing the Hagens and Celebrini comparison we have to give Hagens the time in NCAA to start to get his confidence and his game will change a bit, he will become faster and stronger like Celebrini did....Macklin will be the better all around player IMO but Hagens IQ is different than Hagens in the offensive zone, Celebrini uses speed and transition to create oppertunity where Hagens controls the ice, slows the pace down and speeds it up, his vision is better, Hagens is a better offensive conductor where Celebrini is a lot more flash and speed....

I've said the same thing on the Sharks board before and made the comparison of Celebrini is like a hockey version of Westbrook while Hagens is like Curry.

 

[Juxtaposer]

comparable in terms of impact on a team

McKenna = MacKinnon
Bedard = Kane
Hagens = Jack Hughes
Celebrini = Tavares/Giroux type, harder to say for him

Making shit up for Celebrini. Stylistically he's a Toews/Crosby hybrid. Probably has the least scoring upside on this list, but could be the most impactful player due to his defensive and transition game.

 

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McKenna
Celebrini
Bedard
Hagens