Prospect Info: Beckett Sennecke

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Yeah he already got the boot off Aug 30, not sure why ANA media person tweeted that as the 6-8 weeks was the full injury recovery from when it happened which was 6 weeks ago. He's starting to skate tomorrow

I can tell you why. It’s because we have some of the worst media coverage in the league. And a team that feels no need to keep the fans even remotely updated on team news.

 

[Generalsupdates]

I can tell you why. It’s because we have some of the worst media coverage in the league. And a team that feels no need to keep the fans even remotely updated on team news.

Then this time they try to update the fans but have the info wrong and send their fanbase into a tizzy over something that isn't even true lol

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Then this time they try to update the fans but have the info wrong and send their fanbase into a tizzy over something that isn't even true lol

That’s us.

 

[Gliff]

I can tell you why. It’s because we have some of the worst media coverage in the league. And a team that feels no need to keep the fans even remotely updated on team news.

It's weird because they actually are really ahead of the league when it comes to some stuff like Ducks Stream and now free game broadcasts. Ducks stream in particular was seen as a pioneering thing that all teams are looking at doing now.

Almost like the business side of the franchise is far ahead of the hockey ops who still are in the 90s mentality of "none of your f***ing business".

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

It's weird because they actually are really ahead of the league when it comes to some stuff like Ducks Stream and now free game broadcasts. Ducks stream in particular was seen as a pioneering thing that all teams are looking at doing now.

Almost like the business side of the franchise is far ahead of the hockey ops who still are in the 90s mentality of "none of your f***ing business".

You can defend them if you want but at the end of the day it's Henry's team and either he's fine with how they deal with the media/fans or he's oblivious to it. Take your pick.

 

[AngelDuck]

It's weird because they actually are really ahead of the league when it comes to some stuff like Ducks Stream and now free game broadcasts. Ducks stream in particular was seen as a pioneering thing that all teams are looking at doing now.

Almost like the business side of the franchise is far ahead of the hockey ops who still are in the 90s mentality of "none of your f***ing business".

This wasnt a matter of them having the mentality of “none of your business” or them “playing things close to the vest”

This is terrible inaccurate reporting of something without having the actual facts. The employee who did this should at the very least get some sort of warning.

The issue is that we’re such a small market team that I doubt enough of a word ever gets around for an error like this to even be really noted by the higher ups. But it’s still a really bad look for the team

 

[Gliff]

You can defend them if you want but at the end of the day it's Henry's team and either he's fine with how they deal with the media/fans or he's oblivious to it. Take your pick.

This wasnt a matter of them having the mentality of “none of your business” or them “playing things close to the vest”

This is terrible inaccurate reporting of something without having the actual facts. The employee who did this should at the very least get some sort of warning.

The issue is that we’re such a small market team that I doubt enough of a word ever gets around for an error like this to even be really noted by the higher ups. But it’s still a really bad look for the team

I wasn't making a point about this situation in particular. Just a general observation about the duality of how the franchise treats media.

 

[Sean Garrity]

I always find it interesting when fans think they’re privy to organizational information.

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

I always find it interesting when fans think they’re privy to organizational information.

Yeah I want it but to expect it is pretty silly.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

If the Dallas Stars were a rebuilding team and drafted Wyatt Johnston #3 overall in 2021 everyone in 2021 be saying they massively reached. If Dallas was rebuilding in 2024 I think Sennecke would be a Dallas pick. Dallas seems to draft based on where they see a player ending up as opposed to where they are when drafted.

 

[Gliff]

If the Dallas Stars were a rebuilding team and drafted Wyatt Johnston #3 overall in 2021 everyone in 2021 be saying they massively reached. If Dallas was rebuilding in 2024 I think Sennecke would be a Dallas pick. Dallas seems to draft based on where they see a player ending up as opposed to where they are when drafted.

Dallas definitely does with their forwards what the Ducks do on defense. Not just in results, but also the perception when the pick is made. Their picks never seem to be with the consensus and they just keep churning them out.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Dallas definitely does with their forwards what the Ducks do on defense. Not just in results, but also the perception when the pick is made. Their picks never seem to be with the consensus and they just keep churning them out.

Yeah, I am hoping Sennecke is the Ducks Jason Robertson, whom took several years to reach the NHL but once he was a regular the 6'3 winger made an immediate impact. I can't remember the exact words or where but sometime during the draft Madden said they want to get better at not missing out on the guys who end up a lot better than where they were drafted, I wonder if Sennecke is part of that.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

If the Dallas Stars were a rebuilding team and drafted Wyatt Johnston #3 overall in 2021 everyone in 2021 be saying they massively reached. If Dallas was rebuilding in 2024 I think Sennecke would be a Dallas pick. Dallas seems to draft based on where they see a player ending up as opposed to where they are when drafted.

Dallas definitely does with their forwards what the Ducks do on defense. Not just in results, but also the perception when the pick is made. Their picks never seem to be with the consensus and they just keep churning them out.

Identifying forward prospects outside the top-10 is the Ducks' scouting problem. Some of the problem lies in scouting, some in the player not developing after being drafted, some in the NHL threshold was too big a jump (Steel), some in the player giving up after blowing up in the NHL, in a good way, like Comtois, and some got hit with the injury/concussion bug like Jones and Kase. Terry took his time to become established in his D+7 season and stay that way. Right now, we have one hope in 2020, Rd 2 RW Colangelo in panning out.

Anaheim hasn't had problems drafting forwards in the top-10 in recent years. Zegras in 2019, Mac in 2021, and Carlsson in 2023. Zegras dropped in the draft, Mac was a considered a "massive reach", and Carlsson was a surprise pick to take over Fantilli. In fact, Pronman still puts Fantilli in a higher tier level than Carlsson this past summer. Outside of Ducks' community, many believe Fantilli is the better player and should have been taken #2 overall.

The drafting of Sennecke higher than expected appears to be a common theme for the Ducks' scouting group. Then tack on the trait of finding players who are late bloomers by our scouting staff, then Sennecke also fits that trait - although, the late risers we have gone after are late in the first round and beyond.

Sennecke's 2nd half performance didn't sell on me for a player in the top-3 initially, which is why I preferred the Lindstrom. I don't know if the higher production in the 2nd half of the season was due to being paired with Calum Ritchie (i think that's his teammate) or due to his brain finally being in sync with his taller frame. But after doing more digging on Sennecke, it is kinda difficult to not like what he's done on the ice b/c he kept his short kid skills as he grew from 5'10 to 6'2.75" over two seasons and could still be growing. I can't see the physicality part of his game because he's got no meat to be dishing out a power forward, but maybe the meat and muscle will eventually come once he stops growing taller.

Sennecke
Season	Games	G	A	Pts	PPG		+/-	G/GP
D+0	63​	27​	41​	68​	1.08​		33​	0.43​
Oct-Jan	42​	15​	24​	39​	0.93​		16​	0.36​
Feb-Mar	21​	12​	17​	29​	1.38​		17​	0.57​
.
Playoffs	16​	10​	12​	22​	1.38​		9​	0.63​

There is a slight concern about Sennecke being selected in the top-5/10, which is the lack of goal scoring. Brad Allen from Hockey Prospects brought this concern up in a podcast, but felt comfortable when Sennecke did improve his goal scoring in the 2nd half of the season. (I shared the splits in the table above.)

Another factor in drafting Sennecke is height. Here are the forward heights for selected in the top-10.
1. C Celebrini is 6'0
3. RW Sennecke is 6'2.75 (could still be growing)
4. C Lindstrom is 6'3.25 (back injury)
5. RW Demidov is 5'11 (Russia issue)
6. C Iginla is 5'11.75
8. C Catton is 5'10

Drafting Sennecke is a gamble, but not a high roller stakes kinda gamble. Sennecke's got top end tools and hockey sense. He was projected to go in the teens, implying that Sennecke has a very high floor to be drafted into the teens, but also due to a small sample of that high end play in his two years in the OHL. The gamble is if Sennecke can be more than the current floor he's at today.

 

[Kalv]

Identifying forward prospects outside the top-10 is the Ducks' scouting problem. Some of the problem lies in scouting, some in the player not developing after being drafted, some in the NHL threshold was too big a jump (Steel), some in the player giving up after blowing up in the NHL, in a good way, like Comtois, and some got hit with the injury/concussion bug like Jones and Kase. Terry took his time to become established in his D+7 season and stay that way. Right now, we have one hope in 2020, Rd 2 RW Colangelo in panning out.

Anaheim hasn't had problems drafting forwards in the top-10 in recent years. Zegras in 2019, Mac in 2021, and Carlsson in 2023. Zegras dropped in the draft, Mac was a considered a "massive reach", and Carlsson was a surprise pick to take over Fantilli. In fact, Pronman still puts Fantilli in a higher tier level than Carlsson this past summer. Outside of Ducks' community, many believe Fantilli is the better player and should have been taken #2 overall.

The drafting of Sennecke higher than expected appears to be a common theme for the Ducks' scouting group. Then tack on the trait of finding players who are late bloomers by our scouting staff, then Sennecke also fits that trait - although, the late risers we have gone after are late in the first round and beyond.

Sennecke's 2nd half performance didn't sell on me for a player in the top-3 initially, which is why I preferred the Lindstrom. I don't know if the higher production in the 2nd half of the season was due to being paired with Calum Ritchie (i think that's his teammate) or due to his brain finally being in sync with his taller frame. But after doing more digging on Sennecke, it is kinda difficult to not like what he's done on the ice b/c he kept his short kid skills as he grew from 5'10 to 6'2.75" over two seasons and could still be growing. I can't see the physicality part of his game because he's got no meat to be dishing out a power forward, but maybe the meat and muscle will eventually come once he stops growing taller.

Sennecke
Season	Games	G	A	Pts	PPG		+/-	G/GP
D+0	63​	27​	41​	68​	1.08​		33​	0.43​
Oct-Jan	42​	15​	24​	39​	0.93​		16​	0.36​
Feb-Mar	21​	12​	17​	29​	1.38​		17​	0.57​
.
Playoffs	16​	10​	12​	22​	1.38​		9​	0.63​

There is a slight concern about Sennecke being selected in the top-5/10, which is the lack of goal scoring. Brad Allen from Hockey Prospects brought this concern up in a podcast, but felt comfortable when Sennecke did improve his goal scoring in the 2nd half of the season. (I shared the splits in the table above.)

Another factor in drafting Sennecke is height. Here are the forward heights for selected in the top-10.
1. C Celebrini is 6'0
3. RW Sennecke is 6'2.75 (could still be growing)
4. C Lindstrom is 6'3.25 (back injury)
5. RW Demidov is 5'11 (Russia issue)
6. C Iginla is 5'11.75
8. C Catton is 5'10

Drafting Sennecke is a gamble, but not a high roller stakes kinda gamble. Sennecke's got top end tools and hockey sense. He was projected to go in the teens, implying that Sennecke has a very high floor to be drafted into the teens, but also due to a small sample of that high end play in his two years in the OHL. The gamble is if Sennecke can be more than the current floor he's at today.

Will be super interesting to see how Sennecke looks when he will add some muscle eventually. It will take years tho. And for now I just hope he can stay healthy