OT: Bears & NFL Talk 92

[HawksBeerFan]

Not sure about the deal, I like giving Fields another option, obviously, but I don't really rate Claypool.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

With the state of the Bears receiving corps and the fact you're trying to determine if Fields is "the guy" to build around - getting a 6'4" 230lb guy that runs a 4.4 and can actually catch the ball - I like it.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

With the state of the Bears receiving corps and the fact you're trying to determine if Fields is "the guy" to build around - getting a 6'4" 230lb guy that runs a 4.4 and can actually catch the ball - I like it.

The issue with Claypool has been his ability to get separation.

 

[Pez68]

Steelers giving up on a young WR is rare and raises red flags especially when they need to build around own young QB

As of now I am not thrilled with this, and Bears could have drafted a WR with that 2nd in this year's draft



Terrible move if true

Breer says its Ravens pick
Rap says its Bears pick

Never change BWC.

 

[ChiHawks10]

I like this move. He’s a good player and Chicago is terrible at drafting/developing wr’s.

I'm also a fan of this move. Everyone complains about Fields having no WRs, no weapons, and then turns around and complains when we acquire a legitimate WR1 target for him to throw to. Never change Bears fans.

 

[southsideIrish]

I like getting another good receiver for Fields but not sure he's worth a second round pick.

ESPN gave the trade a D+, CBS a C+ and Sporting News an A- so go figure.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I'm not a Chase Claypool fan but I get it. They had to flip one of their 2nds for a WR. I just wish they would have waited until the offseason for Tee Higgins.

idk if anyone else follows Urinating Tree. He does comedic videos on sports on youtube and is a huge Steelers fan. These are his thoughts.



Remember all of the stupid shit that Anthony Miller did? yeah get ready for that experience again.

 

[Pez68]

If KBS AND BWC are both shitting on this trade, chances are, it turns out just fine.

 

[plasmonresonance]

If KBS AND BWC are both shitting on this trade, chances are, it turns out just fine.

Why didn't the Bears draft some help for Fields? Terrible not getting him any help. Stupid Poles.

Bears trade their second round pick to help Fields. Terrible move. Too high a price. What are they thinking?

 

[TLEH]

I'm also a fan of this move. Everyone complains about Fields having no WRs, no weapons, and then turns around and complains when we acquire a legitimate WR1 target for him to throw to. Never change Bears fans.

I feel like this is a common response but just because you have a hole at WR doesn’t mean every move for a WR is good regardless of how much you pay. He’s also not a WR1.

I like the player, don’t like the price.

 

[ChiHawks10]

I feel like this is a common response but just because you have a hole at WR doesn’t mean every move for a WR is good regardless of how much you pay. He’s also not a WR1.

I like the player, don’t like the price.

800+ yards/season, 10+ TDs over 2.5 seasons. The half season with garbage throwing to him. If he's not a low-end WR1 right now, he's not very far off.

He's a legitimate NFL receiver. Something of which the Bears only have one.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

I'm also a fan of this move. Everyone complains about Fields having no WRs, no weapons, and then turns around and complains when we acquire a legitimate WR1 target for him to throw to. Never change Bears fans.

Calling Claypool a legit #1 is extremely hyperbolic.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

800+ yards/season, 10+ TDs over 2.5 seasons. The half season with garbage throwing to him. If he's not a low-end WR1 right now, he's not very far off.

He's a legitimate NFL receiver. Something of which the Bears only have one.

He had a great rookie season, no doubt. But last season...

59 receptions, 860 yards, 2 TDs

This year he's on pace for...

68 receptions, 661 yards, 2 TDs

In no way is that close to a #1. Mooney's stats are miles better and nobody around here thinks he's a #1 WR anymore.

 

[Illinihockey]

He had a great rookie season, no doubt. But last season...

59 receptions, 860 yards, 2 TDs

This year he's on pace for...

68 receptions, 661 yards, 2 TDs

In no way is that close to a #1. Mooney's stats are miles better and nobody around here thinks he's a #1 WR anymore.

Who was throwing him the ball? Going out on a limb and going to say Fields is better than Big ben’s corpse and a trubisky/Pickett poo poo platter

 

[TLEH]

800+ yards/season, 10+ TDs over 2.5 seasons. The half season with garbage throwing to him. If he's not a low-end WR1 right now, he's not very far off.

He's a legitimate NFL receiver. Something of which the Bears only have one.

I agree that he’s a legit receiver. Probably a good WR2 or a great 3. . I’m glad we got him. Just felt like a lot to give up. Packers apparently offered a 2nd too. Idk. Maybe I’m wrong. He has his warts.

 

[ChiHawks10]

I agree that he’s a legit receiver. Probably a good WR2 or a great 3. . I’m glad we got him. Just felt like a lot to give up. Packers apparently offered a 2nd too. Idk. Maybe I’m wrong. He has his warts.

I would say a great WR2. Probably has the potential and size to be a true WR1.

When I said WR1 earlier, I was saying a WR1 for the Bears. He automatically became the Bears best WR, IMO.

Calling Claypool a legit #1 is extremely hyperbolic.

Wouldn't say extremely hyperbolic. I was basically referring to him as the Bears WR1 target. Like... a big WR with speed, that makes for a big, legit target for Fields. I would argue that he instantly becomes the Bears' best WR, meaning he's their WR1.

 

[Illinihockey]

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

800+ yards/season, 10+ TDs over 2.5 seasons. The half season with garbage throwing to him. If he's not a low-end WR1 right now, he's not very far off.

He's a legitimate NFL receiver. Something of which the Bears only have one.

He had good rookie season as #3 WR behind Juju Smith-Schuster and Diontae Johnson in a pass heavy offense

Chicago has no stud #1 WR in Johnson opposite of him for teams to worry about

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

If KBS AND BWC are both shitting on this trade, chances are, it turns out just fine.

I like the move, don't like the player. If Claypool can screw his head on straight he will be fine. I am actually very happy they flipped the 2nd for a WR. Just not the guy I'd have chosen.

Claypool is a good WR, he just has a screw loose.

 

[Giovi]

 

[BK]

I like how Poles explains his process (I am very process oriented so keep that in mind). Based on what he said, I can see his logic and don't disagree. I am not sure he will be right, but I am fine with his moves. I like the potential in the trade for Claypool as he has a great deal of potential. He has all the tools to be a good receiver and his production so far is nothing to scoff at. He has low WR1/high WR2 potential. Now it is on the coaches and himself to reach that.

 

[clydesdale line]

Upcoming FA the WR group is extremely weak. The upcoming draft the WR group isn't as deep as last years (and I doubt many if any teams picking in the 2nd round will find a WR as good as Claypool). I like the risk. His physical attributes are insane. If he stays focused, he's going to be a monster. Hopefully his ex Notre Dame teammates (Kmet, St. Brown, Mustipher) can help reel him in.

Now gotta root like hell the Ravens (or Patriots) really suck down the stretch to give the Bears a high enough 2nd rounder.

 

[Sarava]

I'm skeptical of this move, particularly since they gave up their own 2nd. They gave up quite a bit more here than they got back for Roquan.

 

[Illinihockey]

I'm skeptical of this move, particularly since they gave up their own 2nd. They gave up quite a bit more here than they got back for Roquan.

Roquan is a free agent in 3 months and plays a much more replaceable position

 

[HeisenBaez]

It’s objectively an over pay but receivers are hard to get

No it's really not.