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It is, but Fields himself has a lot of work to do. Not ready to give up yet, but might be by the end of the season.
Surprised how much Mooney benefitted from Robinson. He looks like a 5th round pick now.
Mooney is a 3 wr on most teams.
Going into the season maybe 2 of the 5 OL should be starters.
Yet you’re ready to give up by the end of the year?
That’s a terrible take
 
Mooney is a 3 wr on most teams.
Going into the season maybe 2 of the 5 OL should be starters.
Yet you’re ready to give up by the end of the year?
That’s a terrible take
I think that patience with younger players is overrated. Most good to great ones will reveal themselves in a season or two. The ones that patience works for are the exception, not the rule. By year 3 you're pretty sure.

What did Patience get Trubisky? Bortles? countless other QBs that failed?

For every Drew Brees and Josh Allen, how many Trubiskys are there?
 
I think that patience with younger players is overrated. Most good to great ones will reveal themselves in a season or two. The ones that patience works for are the exception, not the rule. By year 3 you're pretty sure.

What did Patience get Trubisky? Bortles? countless other QBs that failed?

For every Drew Brees and Josh Allen, how many Trubiskys are there?
And how many.. who is your example? Peyton Mannings are there? Rodgers, Brady, Mahomes, who is the looks ready and plays ready right away and is looking great example?
 
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I think that patience with younger players is overrated. Most good to great ones will reveal themselves in a season or two. The ones that patience works for are the exception, not the rule. By year 3 you're pretty sure.

What did Patience get Trubisky? Bortles? countless other QBs that failed?

For every Drew Brees and Josh Allen, how many Trubiskys are there?
you couldn’t handle a Josh Allen
 
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And how many.. who is your example? Peyton Mannings are there? Rodgers, Brady, Mahomes, who is the looks ready and plays ready right away and is looking great example?
Most of the great QBs were at least good by year 2 as a starter.
You can go all the way back to the early 90s. Favre got his first starting job and was great right away. So was Roethlisberger. Rodgers sat for 3 years, but as soon as he got his chance, he was great. Peyton Manning, McNabb, and Culpepper(before injuries wrecked his career) popped by year 2 as a starter. Brady was above average immediately, and developed into great. I think people mistake being above average immediately and developing into great for being bad and developing into great. Russell Wilson was above average the moment he stepped on the field as well. So were other good QBs like Romo and Rivers.

Going back further, Marino was great right away and so was Jim Kelly. Joe Montana won his first Superbowl in his 3rd season, and it was his first full season as a starter. John Elway won 12 games in year 2. Matt Stafford got injured his second year and played only 3 games. In his first full year as starter threw 41 TD passes.


If I remember correctly, average as hell Joe Flacco and Kirk Cousins were at the very least competent as soon as they started games.

What this tells me is that the good and great ones reveal themselves basically as soon as they take the field.
 
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I know. He's not ready.
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F*** the Packers.

F*** the Bears for being mentally soft when it comes to the Packers.

Bears are something like 8-45 against Favre/Rodgers Packers and that feels like a damn joke.
 
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