OT: Bears & NFL Talk 91

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Serious question:
Do I need to stop comparing young QBs to guys like Brady

The greatest QB to ever play the game is one hell of a bar to set.

 

[Pez68]

Serious question:
Do I need to stop comparing young QBs to guys like Brady, Mahomes, and Rodgers and instead compare them to league average guys like Cousins?

Maybe I've been too harsh on Fields (and Trubisky for that matter)

I mean, obviously??

 

[Mrfenn92]

Serious question:
Do I need to stop comparing young QBs to guys like Brady, Mahomes, and Rodgers and instead compare them to league average guys like Cousins?

Maybe I've been too harsh on Fields (and Trubisky for that matter)

You know this answer already

 

[ChiHawks10]

Serious question:
Do I need to stop comparing young QBs to guys like Brady, Mahomes, and Rodgers and instead compare them to league average guys like Cousins?

Maybe I've been too harsh on Fields (and Trubisky for that matter)

Hate to sound like a broken record here... but... yeah, obviously.

 

[plasmonresonance]

Serious question:
Do I need to stop comparing young QBs to guys like Brady, Mahomes, and Rodgers and instead compare them to league average guys like Cousins?

Maybe I've been too harsh on Fields (and Trubisky for that matter)

If you are going to compare Fields to those guys at least compare their performances after starting only 11 games. Don't compare Fields with, nor expect his performance to mimic a 5-10 yr vet. Nothing wrong with wanting him to be perfect, but when he is not, don't let it inundate your evaluation. Patience.

 

[madgoat33]

Cousins is a top 15 arguably top 10 qb. He still stinks, but in the aggregate he definitely better than league average.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

I mean.... I agree that it's too early to fully judge Fields (though I am unimpressed so far), but I'll stand by the opinion that you don't spend a second overall on a guy with the hope that he's league average for his position.

And Cousins is the statpadder-in-chief so far in his career. He's not a guy you want to build around if you want to win the Super Bowl, but watch me eat shit for saying that because Zimmer's no longer holding back that team.

 

[IU Hawks fan]

You pretty much have to have a HOF QB to win the title. That's why you compare them to...the HOF QBs, because Fields turning into a Cousins level guy does nothing but put you in purgatory.

 

[Space umpire]

You pretty much have to have a HOF QB to win the title. That's why you compare them to...the HOF QBs, because Fields turning into a Cousins level guy does nothing but put you in purgatory.

There are some purgatory level QB’s that are super bowl champs.

 

[ChiHawks10]

You pretty much have to have a HOF QB to win the title. That's why you compare them to...the HOF QBs, because Fields turning into a Cousins level guy does nothing but put you in purgatory.

Yeah, but comparing Fields after not even a season of games, to Brady, after 20+ seasons of games, is nonsensical. Of course Fields won't look like Brady. It took Brady 5-6 years to REALLY look like the Brady that is the GOAT, anyways. Expecting Fields to be Brady after 12 games is just stupid. Especially when you take into consideration the coaching that Fields had...

 

[IU Hawks fan]

There are some purgatory level QB’s that are super bowl champs.

Right, that's why I said "pretty much need" and not "absolutely need". Yeah, there's been a few that have lucked out due to an incredible defense, but that's not how you build a team.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

You pretty much have to have a HOF QB to win the title. That's why you compare them to...the HOF QBs, because Fields turning into a Cousins level guy does nothing but put you in purgatory.

Right, that's why I said "pretty much need" and not "absolutely need". Yeah, there's been a few that have lucked out due to an incredible defense, but that's not how you build a team.

See this is why I compare young QBs to the greats. Because you need that type of QB to win consistently in the NFL. You might be able to sneak in with a great D and an average QB on a 3-4 year window and may get one title, but for any success beyond that you need the great QBs.

 

[Ben Grimm]

Brett Favre is an example of NFL hero worship gone wrong

Favre's alleged involvement in diverting welfare funds to build a volleyball stadium is perhaps the latest, gravest example that his carefully curated image as working class hero-turned-NFL royalty is a facade.

sports.yahoo.com

I've never thought Favre was an angel, but a multi-millionaire manipulating the welfare system of one of the poorest states is really low.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Yeah, we were ahead of the curve in Chicago knowing Favre was a POS.

 

[Space umpire]

See this is why I compare young QBs to the greats. Because you need that type of QB to win consistently in the NFL. You might be able to sneak in with a great D and an average QB on a 3-4 year window and may get one title, but for any success beyond that you need the great QBs.

But you compare a 2nd yr player to greats with 10 years experience. Compare them at year 2 … on a terrible team … surrounded by late rd picks and castoffs

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

But you compare a 2nd yr player to greats with 10 years experience. Compare them at year 2 … on a terrible team … surrounded by late rd picks and castoffs

Ok, do you think Herbert/Allen are good comparables?

 

[Giovi]

Ok, do you think Herbert/Allen are good comparables?

Comparing him to them when they were at the career stage he's at is more appropriate than comparing him to what they are now.

 

[ChiHawks10]

But you compare a 2nd yr player to greats with 10 years experience. Compare them at year 2 … on a terrible team … surrounded by late rd picks and castoffs

Bingo.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

Blows my mind the Tomahawk Chop is still a thing

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I'm paying too much for cable if I have to open my laptop to watch football.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

I'm paying too much for cable if I have to open my laptop to watch football.

Don't have a Smart TV? Just get the Prime Video app

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Don't have a Smart TV? Just get the Prime Video app

I do I'm just a very old thirty four year old and that means the same thing to me.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

Mack looks great so far, hopefully he can stay healthy

 

[HawksBeerFan]

KC got absolutely bailed out on that drive, insanely soft penalty/call that should have been called on KC and the Chargers have a pick taken off the board, and then KC scores.

 

[HeisenBaez]

Yeah, we were ahead of the curve in Chicago knowing Favre was a POS.

Don't forget his TE, Chmura, is also a POS.