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I don’t want Vrabel because I don’t trust them to get the right OC.
I’d rather they just got with an offensive guy as the HC
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I don’t want Vrabel because I don’t trust them to get the right OC.
I’d rather they just got with an offensive guy as the HC
Romang67
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Lukewarm take: if Trubisky had been slightly better than a total pumpkin, Nagy would be viewed as far and away the best Bears HC since Lovie, and grabbing an OC without HC experience would not have been viewed as controversial by Bears media/fans.
Especially when the freaking Packers AND Vikings hired a young OC without previous HC experience in the last 5 years and they both seem likely absolute slam dunks so far.
Ben Johnson is on a whole other level in terms of being proven than Nagy, so don't take it as those two being comparable candidates.
Especially when the freaking Packers AND Vikings hired a young OC without previous HC experience in the last 5 years and they both seem likely absolute slam dunks so far.
Ben Johnson is on a whole other level in terms of being proven than Nagy, so don't take it as those two being comparable candidates.
Romang67
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Fields is injured. Not out, but I don't think he'll see the field barring something very unexpected happening.
GIADF
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Fields should become Taysom Hill 2.0 and he could have a nice long career making millions.
What he lacks in pass catching ability he makes up as a better runner, although he's such an incredible athlete I'm sure he could catch a ball off a basic route.
Blackhawkswincup
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How do you leave Kelce all alone in endzone? Kelse of all people all alone in endzone
Mahomes and Chiefs rolling right now
Mahomes and Chiefs rolling right now
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Ben Johnson isn't Nagy 2.0 but what he does similar to Nagy is the constant gimmick plays. What I dont like about him is I believe he'll get exposed because the Lions O-Line is arguably the best in the league, if not top 3 for him to call plays. The Bears have nowhere near that.
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Romang67
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I don't see it with the gimmick plays being constant. It's every so often, but most of the time it's just a dominant offense which is disgustingly well schemed. Hats on hats all over the place, just smart scheming.
The O-line is a bit of a worry, but it wasn't a top 3 O-line in the league in 2022, his first year as the OC, when they threw for 4200 yards and added 2200 more on the ground.
I also think he understands the value of a good O-line. Vrabel has already gone through one tenure as HC where his O-line ultimately became one of the worst in the league.
Romang67
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that this is not what Houston hoped to see after they clearly went all in in the off season. Turned a 5-1 start into probably finishing 10-7. It's not 4-2 -> 4-13 bad, but it sure isn't good.
Stroud is having a pretty bad season. Slowik is no longer a hot name for the HC cycle, and that OL looks spotty. And they have little to no cap space to work with to reinforce the team.
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Sarava
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Yeah I've always liked Pete Carroll. If only he were a bit younger, he might be the exception to a rule I think the Bears need to employ: They must hire an offensive coach.
This whole thing hangs on Caleb developing correctly. He's shown a ton of positives this year. And he's also shown some vulnerabilities. At times maybe it's appeared he is slow in processing defenses, or inconsistent accuracy downfield. He's a rookie and these things are expected.
It will be interesting how Detroit handles their offense going forward, if Ben Johnson does leave. That's one of the reasons you want an offensive coach. Because if an OC does well, he will bolt for a head coaching job. Where if you hire the guy who runs the offense as your head coach, he's not going anywhere if he succeeds.
Sarava
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And this is a good lesson for us all. It's easy to get caught up in the trap to assume development is linear and 2nd year players will always improve. As seen with Stroud, there's no guarantee in that.
And God helps us if he Caleb regresses next year as Stroud has this season. That would be a total Chicago Bears thing to happen.
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I’m very shocked that Teven Jenkins is hurt
Yep. The numbers are bad but Stroud looks bad too.
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It is hard for me to see a scenario in which CW regresses next year, but time will tell.
- Eberflus was one of the worst coaching staffs of all time
- 3 different OCs this year
- below average offensive line
- Keenan Allen has dropped roughly 92 passes this year
Any investment in the offensive line should also improve it.
ALlen's targets being spread to Odunze and Moore and maybe even Kmet if the next HC/OC realizes you can indeed throw to your TE is probably a net positive as well.
TLEH
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"9. Chicago Bears — Kelvin Banks Jr., OT/OG, Texas
Banks is explosive, plays balanced and can have impact snaps in the run and pass games. He’d be best at guard as a pro, which would be a great fit for the Bears who desperately need a boost on the inside and at right guard. The Bears targeting positional versatility doesn’t hurt at all, though". 2025 NFL mock draft 3.0: Giants go QB at 1, and which CFP standouts will be 1st-rounders?
Banks is explosive, plays balanced and can have impact snaps in the run and pass games. He’d be best at guard as a pro, which would be a great fit for the Bears who desperately need a boost on the inside and at right guard. The Bears targeting positional versatility doesn’t hurt at all, though". 2025 NFL mock draft 3.0: Giants go QB at 1, and which CFP standouts will be 1st-rounders?
Romang67
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Sounds like Borom is drawing in over Amegadjie. Can't say I'm thrilled about the idea that a third round pick can't play over Larry Borom with a week of preparation against a much worse pass rush than the Vikings.
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I'll be there tonight with a friend. We'll be in section 152, like center of one of the endzones, 9 rows up. If anyone is going, DM me, and maybe we meet up and have a beer.
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The fact that the 3rd round LT pick can’t get on the field for a team that desperately needs OL production and has a season that is over against is very troubling and something both Brown and Poles need to address. Add Tyler Scott to that mix and more early round draft fail by Poles
The Sea OL is a mess but the WR corps is very good. I expect Owens to get destroyed yet again in his final home game as a Bear.
The Sea OL is a mess but the WR corps is very good. I expect Owens to get destroyed yet again in his final home game as a Bear.
Romang67
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4th round picks aren't early round draft picks. Any draft pick after the first 100ish picks is a complete shot in the dark.
Odds of becoming a quality player in the NFL - by draft round
Odds of becoming a quality player in the NFL - by draft round
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You can be a GM for 7 straight years, miss every single one of your 4th round draft picks, and you're statistically at that point slightly below average.
His early round drafting has been fine. He has drafted in the first round thrice, all three look like hits. He has drafted in the 2nd round four times, one looks like a miss in terms of performance (Brisker's concussion issues wasn't really a thing at draft time).
