OT: Bears & NFL Talk 103

[TLEH]

To be honest, I do think there is something to it. He has been interviewed for head coach positions for 2 coaching cycles now (yes, Rooney Rule plays a role, but he's still the one getting those interviews), and Sean McVay was obviously high enough on him to make him the assistant head coach back in 2021 after one season as the Rams RB coach.

Brian Flores would have to do A LOT to convince me that he's not going to ruin the confidence of another young QB before I'd be interested in having him coach the Bears. I don't even think what he did is super unusual for a headstrong defensive head coach. I just think headstrong defensive head coaches generally hate offensive players, and especially offensive players who are inconsistent and make mistakes (so young players).

Freeman is a hilarious option. Yeah, sure, why don't we go with the defensive minded college coach with no experience coaching in the NFL? It doesn't check any of the boxes they're supposedly looking for, but half the fanbase are Notre Dame fans, so let's go for their coach.

For sure, Flores is the least of them I would like, but he's atleast a lunatic that would demand respect.

 

[Il Stugotz]

3 game suspension for Azeez Al-Shaair.

Equivalent to 14-15 games in an 82 game NHL season

 

[Ben Grimm]

Holmgren, Sterling Sharpe among HOF finalists

Former Packers coach Mike Holmgren and receiver Sterling Sharpe were among the finalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame chosen Tuesday.

www.espn.com

Mike Holmgren, Sterling Sharpe, Maxie Baughan, Jim Tyrer, Ralph Hay are Hall of Fame finalists

The Pro Football Hall of Fame is set to announce Mike Holmgren, Sterling Sharpe, Maxie Baughan, Jim Tyrer and Ralph Hay as finalists for the Class of 2025.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Kevin Warren has to go. After his handling of Mike Tice in Minneapolis and now the Zoom debacle with Eberflus, it appears to me that Warren is an asshole with little tact.

Poles and Ebeflus came in together. Now Warren and Poles gotta go.

 

[Ben Grimm]

Kevin Warren has to go. After his handling of Mike Tice in Minneapolis and now the Zoom debacle with Eberflus, it appears to me that Warren is an asshole with little tact. Poles and Ebeflus came in together. Now Warren and Poles gotta go.

Before Harbaugh signed with the LAC, he turned down the Bears job, because he doesn't like Warren.

 

[StreetHawk]

Outside of Johnson, any Def HC will depend on their OC with Caleb. Vrabel had Smith in Ten but not sure what his contract is with Pitt. Doubt Pitt would let him go to take the same OC role under Vrabel. If he’s a free agent, then he’d be the guy to tab as OC under Vrabel.

 

[bwanajamba]

Wow at that pass

3rd and 11 and Nix hits Mims deep with great throw for 93 yd TD

Nix has proven alot of people wrong

Nix has had a really nice start to his career. That said, if Williams played the game Nix did last night you would be throwing a fit.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Before Harbaugh signed with the LAC, he turned down the Bears job, because he doesn't like Warren.

I've not heard that before, but not surprised.

In general, I don't think the problem is Caleb Williams. I used to think he was a problem or the problem, but not any more. Bad OL or not, he is willing the Bears to being competitive.

 

[Sarava]

Kevin Warren has to go. After his handling of Mike Tice in Minneapolis and now the Zoom debacle with Eberflus, it appears to me that Warren is an asshole with little tact.

Poles and Ebeflus came in together. Now Warren and Poles gotta go.

I don't care about the zoom debacle really. What concerns me with Warren is his handling of the stadium situation. Before he came on, the Bears looked like they were on a smooth path towards building a stadium at Arlington Park. It just seems like he wants no part of Arlington Heights for whatever reason. And in the meantime, nothing is getting done.

 

[Sarava]

BTW - regarding Poles, who most of you want fired.

Who knows what is true, but reports are trickling out that he may have wanted Flus fired as far back as the end of last season, but ownership vetoed that. Probably because he had 3 more years left on his deal.

And let's remember, when Poles was hired, he came in to a situation where the Bears had already settled on 3 finalists for him to choose from - Flus, Caldwell and Dan Quinn. In hindsight, you'd probably pick Quinn. But he did fizzle out in Atlanta after a hot first couple of years.

 

[Romang67]

Injury report is more of an injury novella this Wednesday. Good news: Wright and Shelton were both just limited. As to the rest... let's hope it looks better by Friday.

 

[TLEH]

Couldn't agree more with Jahns today. Warren definitely asserted himself and they should have fired Poles. What HC is going to come here with this ass backwards leadership?

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Frankly if I was Ravens I would go ahead and cut him and sign a kid off a practice squad somewhere who wants to be part of an NFL team

Man, it wasn't long ago he and Claypool were the Steelers #1-2 and future at WR position

Steelers knew when to move on from both headaches

 

[clydesdale line]

GMs will learn to stop trading with the Steelers in regards to WR. They know exactly when to get rid of them.

 

[Romang67]

Couldn't agree more with Jahns today. Warren definitely asserted himself and they should have fired Poles. What HC is going to come here with this ass backwards leadership?

Luckily their competition is not fierce right now. Ignoring the team completely, what HC opening looks significantly more attractive? Giants, maybe? If Daboll is even fired. Maybe the Dolphins if they let McDaniel go?

Completely unrelated, but I was watching Robert Schmitz's All-22 stream last night, and it's hilarious how uninterested the sidelines are in what's going on on the field. Williams hit in the knees on the sidelines? Meh. Keenan Allen seemingly making a game-tying catch with 40 seconds left? Nothing. Great run? Eh.

 

[TLEH]

Luckily their competition is not fierce right now. Ignoring the team completely, what HC opening looks significantly more attractive? Giants, maybe? If Daboll is even fired. Maybe the Dolphins if they let McDaniel go?

Completely unrelated, but I was watching Robert Schmitz's All-22 stream last night, and it's hilarious how uninterested the sidelines are in what's going on on the field. Williams hit in the knees on the sidelines? Meh. Keenan Allen seemingly making a game-tying catch with 40 seconds left? Nothing. Great run? Eh.

Really good coaches don't take jobs just for the sake of it. They just wait. Thats what they're really up against.

 

[Romang67]

Really good coaches don't take jobs just for the sake of it. They just wait. Thats what they're really up against.

Maybe. I don't trust Warren since he seems like a snake oil salesman, but until we see a coach look at the roster, draft capital, cap space, and say no, I'm not going to worry about their turning it down because of the structure of the front office.

 

[TLEH]

Maybe. I don't trust Warren since he seems like a snake oil salesman, but until we see a coach look at the roster, draft capital, cap space, and say no, I'm not going to worry about their turning it down because of the structure of the front office.

I’m very good friends with someone who interacted with him a lot when he was at the big 10. He is what he gives off.

 

[Mrfenn92]

The bears hired Kevin Warren, he isn’t good

 

[Sarava]

Really good coaches don't take jobs just for the sake of it. They just wait. Thats what they're really up against.

You don't think offensive coaches would salivate at the chance to take over the reigns of Caleb Williams in his 2nd year? It's the perfect situation. He's already gone through a lot of the rookie struggles and has made good adjustments. He's ready to take-off in the right situation.

Caleb was the first QB to have multiple TD passes against the Lions this year. He had 3 in the 2nd half. Ben Johnson watched it live from the sidelines. I find it hard to believe that he would think any other available situation would be better for him.

 

[Romang67]

You don't think offensive coaches would salivate at the chance to take over the reigns of Caleb Williams in his 2nd year? It's the perfect situation. He's already gone through a lot of the rookie struggles and has made good adjustments. He's ready to take-off in the right situation.

Caleb was the first QB to have multiple TD passes against the Lions this year. He had 3 in the 2nd half. Ben Johnson watched it live from the sidelines. I find it hard to believe that he would think any other available situation would be better for him.

Huh. That's pretty wild.

 

[Romang67]

Luckily Sunday road games are pretty uncommon in the NFL.

 

[bwanajamba]

Caleb's season so far has been up and down in spurts of three games:

Games 1-3 (TEN, HOU, IND)
70-118 (59.3%), 630 yards (210/game), 2 TD, 4 INT, 65.29 passer rating, 13 sacks

Games 4-6 (LAR, CAR, JAX)
60-81 (74.0%), 687 yards (229/game), 7 TD, 1 INT, 122.81 rating, 7 sacks

Games 7-9 (WAS, ARI, NE)
48-95 (50.5%), 468 yards (156/game), 0 TD, 0 INT, 64.71 rating, 18 sacks

Games 10-12 (GB, MIN, DET)
75-117 (64.1%), 827 yards (276/game), 5 TD, 0 INT, 99.2 rating, 11 sacks

The obvious checkpoint being Brown taking over after the debacle against New England, after which came arguably the best three performances of his career so far. Would love to see the pattern broken and the momentum continued this weekend now that he's shown he can deliver against strong defenses

 

[TLEH]

You don't think offensive coaches would salivate at the chance to take over the reigns of Caleb Williams in his 2nd year? It's the perfect situation. He's already gone through a lot of the rookie struggles and has made good adjustments. He's ready to take-off in the right situation.

Caleb was the first QB to have multiple TD passes against the Lions this year. He had 3 in the 2nd half. Ben Johnson watched it live from the sidelines. I find it hard to believe that he would think any other available situation would be better for him.

I agree with what you’re saying but when the ownership and leadership isn’t good it’s hard to have success. Poles isn’t exactly free and clear, there’s something going on there. So he gets fired and now what? New guy gets saddled with you? What if that’s after a year? I’m just saying good coaches are picky.

 

[Romang67]

Disappointing to see Thomas Brown didn't get the interim HC tag for the Blackhawks as well.