OT: Bears & NFL Talk 102

[MarotteMarauder]

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Another? When they coach for the first time it will be a welcome change!

 

[Sir Loin]

 

[Panzerspitze]

We get it, you hate Caleb Williams. But this take is going to be embarrassing for you, soon enough.

Wow, dense much? It's spelled P-O-L-E-S!!!

Edit: I see upthread your definition of "soon enough" is "three years". How long has this regime been in place again? Can they *afford* sticking with The Caleb for another three years to find out?

 

[Panzerspitze]

Where was the highly paid 6'5 MLB on the 53-yd TD run with 4 secs remaining before the half? I thought the hype (AKA Poles propaganda) was Everflose was supposed to make a prime Leonard Floyd out of that guy.

Nothing more needs to be said of Nate Davis, who they can't even trade away due to the shambles on the OL the failed ex-lineman has "built" (to put it nicely).

 

[Panzerspitze]

Perhaps only one of Jayden Daniels, Kliff Kingsbury, and Dan Quinn makes the other two look good. The Bears could have gotten ALL or any combination of those three, but chose to get none. That's after bypassing Stroud last year.

Further, the current regime has just p*ssed away another formerly productive draftee by the previous regime, while Washington smartly snatches a 4-time Pro Bowler to help their team:

1st-and-10: Bears seek alternate ending to same movie

The Bears (4-4) again are in position to pat themselves on the back for getting out of a hole they dug. The difference this time? The only way the Bears can make the playoffs after running the upcoming NFC North gauntlet is by actually becoming a good team.

chicago.suntimes.com

3. Is Khalil Herbert the next Darnell Mooney? Like Mooney, Herbert was a late-round draft pick by Pace (sixth round in 2021) who was immediately productive before falling out of favor.

Mooney, a fifth-round pick in 2020 who faded last season with the Bears, has thrived with the Falcons under a former Sean McVay assistant in offensive coordinator Zac Robinson.

Mooney has 41 receptions for 588 yards and five touchdowns this season — more catches and yards in nine games with the Falcons and Kirk Cousins than he had in 15 with the Bears and Fields/Tyson Bagent last season. Mooney has career-highs in yards per catch (14.3) and yards per game (65.3). He is second in the NFL with 14 receptions of 20 or more yards (behind Justin Jefferson’s 15).

Herbert, who was traded to the Bengals (and former McVay assistant Zac Taylor) for a 2025 seventh-round draft pick, is in the Mooney mold. He has averaged 95.5 rushing yards per game when he’s had 15 or more carries (205-1,051, 5.1 average in 11 games) and he led the NFL in rushing average (5.7) in 2022, when had 129 carries for 731 yards and four touchdowns.

and

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/11/05/chicago-bears-matt-eberflus-2/

I’m most interested to see what happens Tuesday with running back Khalil Herbert. If I were the GM, I’d know it might be smart to keep Herbert around as key depth in case D’Andre Swift or Roschon Johnson gets hurt.

In spite of the management failures piling up, the apologists still don't dare to hold the bumbling fool up the totem pole (pun not intended) to account.

 

[Panzerspitze]

Hey look, another rando pointing out the obvious, with numbers to back it up.

What we learned in NFL Week 9: We answered big questions and sized up every single matchup

NFL Nation reporters react to all the action, answering the biggest questions coming out of each game. Here's what we learned from Week 9.

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Eye-popping stat: Entering Sunday, Caleb Williams completed just 31% of his throws with 15 or more air yards, 29th among qualified quarterbacks. Against the Cardinals, he was 1-of-8 (12.5%). Williams finished 22-of-41 for 216 yards and was sacked six times. -- Courtney Cronin

 

[Panzerspitze]

Bad QB play. Bad offensive line. Bad separation by WRs. Bad coaching.


Whole bunch that needs to be fixed somehow.

One big miss: Bad management that pieced together this multilayered fail sandwich after three seasons at the helm.

 

[Panzerspitze]

Why so they can ruin him? Guarantee Daniels would NOT be doing what he is doing with WASH with the Bears.

Riddle me this: Who hand-picked this coaching staff and the surroundings of the QB?

With Daniels tendency to take big hits he’d absolutely be injured and missing games behind this line.

Who's responsible for assembling the roster, including the O-line?

 

[Panzerspitze]

It’s hilarious anyone would think Daniel’s would be thriving in this.

They could have gotten ALL or any combination of Daniels, Kingsbury and Quinn.

 

[Panzerspitze]

Caleb isn’t good

We get it, you hate Caleb Williams. But this take is going to be embarrassing for you, soon enough.

like... in "three years"... LOL

 

[HeisenBaez]

like... in "three years"... LOL

Development is not linear. What happens if Caleb takes off next year and Daniels takes a step back?

I've seen enough of Caleb this year to know he will be a good QB, now it's about finding consistency.

 

[Panzerspitze]

He didn't even miss a snap. Give me a f***ing break with the he's hurt shit. This staff is so far gone and these players verbally let everyone know last week. Now they physically let everyone know this week. Going to the sidelines DURING a play? Are you KIDDING???

Blasphemy! Trade Moore away for a 6th (ala Claypool)! :purple font:

 

[MarotteMarauder]

I will give CW time, but right now he's not an upgrade from the last guy.

 

[GIADF]

I will give CW time, but right now he's not an upgrade from the last guy.

As a pure QB he absolutely is. He can read a defense and move guys with his eyes and read through his options when he has time.

Fields will never be able to do that. One read and run and even then struggles to pull the trigger on his first read.

Meanwhile Bears coaches

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853906509790392549

Tried to give Waldron time to adjust to a new roster and all but at this point he’s just awful and giving me no reason to be optimistic.

 

[Panzerspitze]

That would explain it:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/11/06/chicago-bears-mailbag-matt-eberflus-shane-waldron/

While I was under the assumption Eberflus signed a four-year contract when he was hired, I’m now led to believe he actually signed a five-year deal that runs through the 2026 season. If you think about it, when you’re selling the idea of a rebuild and preaching patience, it stands to reason Eberflus would seek a deal longer than four years, and from what I’m told, I believe he got that. You may recall I asked Eberflus directly about the length of his contract when he was hired, and he declined to say.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Been a long night for someone I see

 

[clydesdale line]

Meanwhile Bears coaches

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853906509790392549

Tried to give Waldron time to adjust to a new roster and all but at this point he’s just awful and giving me no reason to be optimistic.

Bears coaches not using their players correctly?! I'm shocked...

 

[TLEH]

They fired Trestman with two years remaining.

 

[HeisenBaez]

I will give CW time, but right now he's not an upgrade from the last guy.

Yeah he is.

 

[Romang67]

Billings is out for the season.

 

[Crow]

I will give CW time, but right now he's not an upgrade from the last guy.

I think williams is out performing him this year in his first year, with a worse OL.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Billings is out for the season.

Shit

 

[Romang67]

Shit

As of right now, the tackle duo they're rolling out on Sunday will probably be either Borom and Pryor or Borom and Curhan. Both Jones and Wright were DNP at practice. The Bears are probably best off asking Marcedes Lewis to put on 50lbs and line up at tackle.

Brisker still isn't practicing.

 

[TLEH]

Beyond the whole coaching and offense thing, Billings out for the year is a huge blow. Washington ran all over them.