GDT: Bean Pot 2-6-23 - Sean Farrell vs BC (5 pm EST), Hutson/Tuch vs Struble (8 pm EST) NESN TV

[admiralcadillac]

They did whenever they were behind in games.

Maybe they could’ve tried getting ahead in games instead

 

[HuGort]

You are looking at projectable tools, some people have been comparing Heineman to a Lehkonen with a better shot, better goalscoring and thats a pretty accurate comparison IMO, Heineman is even bigger and possibly has even better top speed, kid could become a legitimate 25 goals scorer in the league, I would say that would be absolute fantastic middle 6 production, a swiss knife you can use everywhere. As for Ylonen, I see him as a tier below Heineman, but kid still pocesses some great NHL tools and still can be a pretty legit middle 6 IMO.

As for Farrell, he does have very good creativity and some nice offensive awarenesses, but personally I just cant overlook the lack of size/strength and average skating, thats part of the package. Not saying he has no NHL potential, but the odds arent very high from my point of view, at that point of his development.

I rely on posters like this for my scouting reports. I hardly see these guys play. Good to hear on Heinemann. Hope he in Montreal next year. Farrell if he has good NHL audition this spring maybe trade bait in summer?

 

[Kojo]

I rely on posters like this for my scouting reports. I hardly see these guys play. Good to hear on Heinemann. Hope he in Montreal next year. Farrell if he has good NHL audition this spring maybe trade bait in summer?

What? No. Farrell is going sign after his NCAA season and play for the Habs for a long time. Just watch.

 

[Kojo]

As for Farrell, he does have very good creativity and some nice offensive awarenesses, but personally I just cant overlook the lack of size/strength and average skating, thats part of the package. Not saying he has no NHL potential, but the odds arent very high from my point of view, at that point of his development.

Farrell's floor is pretty high. He can play in any situation, you name it. We're going to need that kind of player in a few years and Farrell is going to enter his prime at that point.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Farrell's floor is pretty high. He can play in any situation, you name it. We're going to need that kind of player in a few years and Farrell is going to enter his prime at that point.

Farrell is 100% a sure top 9 player in NHL, like Heineman. But Farrell have better offensive talent (Heineman is still really good at shooting and can be a really good offensive player aswell). Farrell is fun to watch, Palat 2.0.

 

[Kojo]

Farrell is 100% a sure top 9 player in NHL, like Heineman. But Farrell have better offensive talent (Heineman is still really good at shooting and can be a really good offensive player aswell). Farrell is fun to watch, Palat 2.0.

Farrell is a bit too small to be compared with Palat but he could have the same impact that Palat had in his rookie season.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Farrell is a bit too small to be compared with Palat but he could have the same impact that Palat had in his rookie season.

Maybe Jesper Bratt aswell, 5"10. But I think he can be a really good top 6 player for long time. I have big hope for him!

 

[Mister Hab]

Jay Struble:
He's big, mobile, and has a mean streak. At the combine, he was at the top of many tests and I believe he was the youngest player at the draft.

Production isn't his forte. But he is on a good run lately with 5 pts in 5 games.

Really looking forward to Struble in a Hab jersey.

If Habs are (as one example) drafting 5'10 Benson (ultra-skilled/great offensive hockey-sense)...we will need to keep Josh Anderson, Xhekaj (long-term), and...Jay Struble (tough / mean streak) will be welcomed.

 

[Rapala]

You are looking at projectable tools, some people have been comparing Heineman to a Lehkonen with a better shot, better goalscoring and thats a pretty accurate comparison IMO, Heineman is even bigger and possibly has even better top speed, kid could become a legitimate 25 goals scorer in the league, I would say that would be absolute fantastic middle 6 production, a swiss knife you can use everywhere. As for Ylonen, I see him as a tier below Heineman, but kid still pocesses some great NHL tools and still can be a pretty legit middle 6 IMO.

As for Farrell, he does have very good creativity and some nice offensive awarenesses, but personally I just cant overlook the lack of size/strength and average skating, thats part of the package. Not saying he has no NHL potential, but the odds arent very high from my point of view, at that point of his development.

It's a fair point. We are already innundated with tweeners so unless Farrell can crack the top 6 his game may not be suited for the team we are trying to build.
We need our bottom 6 to become a more defined stronger tougher group IMO. I see Heineman as a fit for a role more so than Ylonen who skates like the wind but often with little purpose. HuGo keeps talking about balance and it's evident to them that we are no where near it at this point. I very rarely do cartwheels over the prospect pool for this very reason. The majority of the players won't be a great fit with the Habs no matter how much we like them now.

 

[Kojo]

It's a fair point. We are already innundated with tweeners so unless Farrell can crack the top 6 his game may not be suited for the team we are trying to build.
We need our bottom 6 to become a more defined stronger tougher group IMO. I see Heineman as a fit for a role more so than Ylonen who skates like the wind but often with little purpose. HuGo keeps talking about balance and it's evident to them that we are no where near it at this point. I very rarely do cartwheels over the prospect pool for this very reason. The majority of the players won't be a great fit with the Habs no matter how much we like them now.

Farrell can play on the third line man, do you even watch him? Farrell is going to fix things for us and potentially ruin our chance at completing the rebuild. He could probably give some advice to Suzuki on how to play short-handed, that's how good he is.

 

[Rapala]

Farrell can play on the third line man, do you even watch him? Farrell is going to fix things for us and potentially ruin our chance at completing the rebuild. He could probably give some advice to Suzuki on how to play short-handed, that's how good he is.

I have seen him play and don't get that same vibe at all. I do see talent but how will it translate to a role in the bigs is always the question for me. There are an awful lot of good players vying for the same job which is my point. He'll have to proove he's the best fit long term. I also don't agree about him moving the needle to the point of ruining our rebuild. We are in the second of our two tanking years. We should be damn close to a .500 club next season if things go according to plan and pushing seriously in MSL's third year for a playoff position. Like I said I'm not doing cartwheels at this point. It doesn't mean I won't. I had the same misgivings with Caufield. A quick look at our injuries this season is a good indication of just how tough the league is.

 

[Kojo]

I have seen him play and don't get that same vibe at all. I do see talent but how will it translate to a role in the bigs is always the question for me. There are an awful lot of good players vying for the same job which is my point. He'll have to proove he's the best fit long term. I also don't agree about him moving the needle to the point of ruining our rebuild. We are in the second of our two tanking years. We should be damn close to a .500 club next season if things go according to plan and pushing seriously in MSL's third year for a playoff position. Like I said I'm not doing cartwheels at this point.

You're right about the fact that we don't know who is going to win Farrell's post in the NHL and he has some competition. And that he might not have such an impactful rookie season. But I would never bet against him.

 

[SlafySZN]

I rely on posters like this for my scouting reports. I hardly see these guys play. Good to hear on Heinemann. Hope he in Montreal next year. Farrell if he has good NHL audition this spring maybe trade bait in summer?

Absolutely not, he's the habs best forward prospect, he is not a trade bait.

 

[Scriptor]

Absolutely not, he's the habs best forward prospect, he is not a trade bait.

Is he really the Habs' best forward prospect? Hey, if he is, go, but, maybe that's a little bit of over hype?

 

[SlafySZN]

Is he really the Habs' best forward prospect? Hey, if he is, go, but, maybe that's a little bit of over hype?

I don't think that's over hype, i don't see any forward habs prospect that are better than him. I don't count Slaf since he's been with the habs.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

You are looking at projectable tools, some people have been comparing Heineman to a Lehkonen with a better shot, better goalscoring and thats a pretty accurate comparison IMO, Heineman is even bigger and possibly has even better top speed, kid could become a legitimate 25 goals scorer in the league, I would say that would be absolute fantastic middle 6 production, a swiss knife you can use everywhere. As for Ylonen, I see him as a tier below Heineman, but kid still pocesses some great NHL tools and still can be a pretty legit middle 6 IMO.

As for Farrell, he does have very good creativity and some nice offensive awarenesses, but personally I just cant overlook the lack of size/strength and average skating, thats part of the package. Not saying he has no NHL potential, but the odds arent very high from my point of view, at that point of his development.

Fair enough. It is probably the right analysis 8 times out of 10, but you run the risk on missing out on the few gems who are more than the sum of their parts.

In the other hand, you may enamour yourself with a few Puljujarvis.

I respect your opinion and instinct, but I believe Farrell is in the the 2 out of 10.

 

[Treb]

I'm pretty sure we are done on the down slope after this year, so Farrell bringing us up goes with the plan.

If we can fill RD and G, we are not far from being contenders.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I'm pretty sure we are done on the down slope after this year, so Farrell bringing us up goes with the plan.

If we can fill RD and G, we are not far from being contenders.

Yes they will have the players to be close to a contender. But most of them won't be on the Habs. They will be in Laval or still in junior or university. Habs could easily be a bottom 5 team next season.

 

[Treb]

Yes they will have the players to be close to a contender. But most of them won't be on the Habs. They will be in Laval or still in junior or university. Habs could easily be a bottom 5 team next season.

I don't see that happenning, We are struggling to be a bottom 5 team this season.

Habs are heading up, not down.

 

[Guess]

I'm pretty sure we are done on the down slope after this year, so Farrell bringing us up goes with the plan.

If we can fill RD and G, we are not far from being contenders.

Maybe in a few years but these kids need way more experience for that.

 

[L4br3cqu3]

To me, Farrell is anything but a sure-thing at the next level, doesn't mean I don't see top-6 potential in him though, which he has, just has to go through the system to see how he adapts to the pros, and that's it. And I don't see why we would trade him either, we need top-6 potential forwards, big time.

Not always a matter of size, cause I also like Hutson's potential a lot, while I don't see anything special in Struble, who's way bigger.

 

[montreal]

To me, Farrell is anything but a sure-thing at the next level, doesn't mean I don't see top-6 potential in him though, which he has, just has to go through the system to see how he adapts to the pros, and that's it. And I don't see why we would trade him either, we need top-6 potential forwards, big time.

Not always a matter of size, cause I also like Hutson's potential a lot, while I don't see anything special in Struble, who's way bigger.

to me he's just about a sure thing for the NHL, when you mix high IQ and high offensive skill with a good work ethic, I wouldn't bet against him. He's a lock to be an NHLer, just don't know what line he will end up on.

 

[BLONG7]

Farrell is a bit too small to be compared with Palat but he could have the same impact that Palat had in his rookie season.

Could we compare Farrell to Joshua Roy........similar type of player ?

 

[Habs Halifax]

You are looking at projectable tools, some people have been comparing Heineman to a Lehkonen with a better shot, better goalscoring and thats a pretty accurate comparison IMO, Heineman is even bigger and possibly has even better top speed, kid could become a legitimate 25 goals scorer in the league, I would say that would be absolute fantastic middle 6 production, a swiss knife you can use everywhere. As for Ylonen, I see him as a tier below Heineman, but kid still pocesses some great NHL tools and still can be a pretty legit middle 6 IMO.

As for Farrell, he does have very good creativity and some nice offensive awarenesses, but personally I just cant overlook the lack of size/strength and average skating, thats part of the package. Not saying he has no NHL potential, but the odds arent very high from my point of view, at that point of his development.

I like to compare Heineman to Hyman.... in terms of him reaching his potential ceiling. Guys with good size, skate well, and can shoot the puck. Energy types. Hyman fits better than Lehkonen IMO.

Farrell compared to who? I don't have a good on at the top of my head. Could be anywhere in the middle of R Pitlick to J Bratt. I have middle 6F projection for Farrell.

 

[morhilane]

Could we compare Farrell to Joshua Roy........similar type of player ?

They don't play the same kind of game, so no.