Proposal: Barzal - James van Riemsdyk

[IceManCat]

Leafs get a future number 2 offensive center behind Mathews. Islanders get another scoring winger next to JT

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[Metroid]

lol i wish

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

At this point, Isles pass... That's not a knock on JVR, but Isles will want to see things through with Barzal...

 

[Bronson]

I think everyone will be pissed off with this.

 

[613Leafer]

I'm pretty sure Nylander is the future #2 offensive centre...

I like Barzal, but if we're moving JVR, I'd prefer to do it for a defenceman, and I'd prefer to do it next summer after the expansion draft.

 

[93LEAFS]

I don't really see how Barzal fits us. Great prospect, but that #2 offensive center gig is going to be Nylanders long term. If we could flip Barzal after into a good RHD than I'd be game. I'm sure Seattle fans would love this though, gets them Barzal for the year.

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

Not happening. The JVR door closed when the Islanders signed Ladd. Yes I know JVR is better but we can't have both.

 

[Srsly]

Not really a need but I'd consider it if we could line up a deal involving Bozak or Kadri(not both) for a defender. Do you have a good but not great two way defender for under 4 million that you could send back as well? We could toss in Leivo or another prospect to balance it out.

 

[Canada4Gold]

We need a defenseman but I love Barzal and would have taken him at 6 in his draft. So yes.

Isles say no

 

[Chez Weber]

I think the Leafs are fine in terms of #2 C, they have Kadri, Nylander, Marner for that spot..
Also I think the Islanders LW depth is fine, so why would they trade their best prospect for one?

 

[scan15*]

Unnecessary.

Toronto has Kadri or Nylander long term as the 2C.

It'd be fun sticking Barzal into the leafs lineup, but it's just unnecessary.

 

[Byrddog]

Islanders laugh at this. Barzal will be a 1C before its over. The Leafs should have traded JVR 2 years ago. His value continues to drop.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

Nice try, nyi isnt moving barzal for jvr

 

[TorontoTrades]

Islanders laugh at this. Barzal will be a 1C before its over. The Leafs should have traded JVR 2 years ago. His value continues to drop.

maybe on HF but his value around the league surely hasn't. His production has maintained even after Kessel was dealt (many around here thought it would nose dive) JVR is still a valuable piece. That being said, I don't think Islander or Leafs do a deal like this.

 

[Liferleafer]

Doubt the Isles do it, and if we move JVR, i hope it's for D.

 

[StuckOutHere]

The only way a JVR to Isles deal makes sense is if we get in a time machine before they signed Andrew Ladd and traded him at the TDL or draft for Pulock and a 1st or something.

 

[Sparksrus3]

OYE !!!!!!
here we go again with jvr

 

[luki here]

The only way a JVR to Isles deal makes sense is if we get in a time machine before they signed Andrew Ladd and traded him at the TDL or draft for Pulock and a 1st or something.

You wouldnt get pulock, probably not even bellows and sure as **** you wouldnt get both. JVR doesnt hold that kind of value for the nyi.

 

[boredmale]

If JVR was a RW I might think about it but we don't need more left wingers to go with the 7 we already have on our roster

 

[Advanced stats]

Nylander>>>>>Barzel

Nylander will be our elite 2c

 

[StuckOutHere]

You wouldnt get pulock, probably not even bellows and sure as **** you wouldnt get both. JVR doesnt hold that kind of value for the nyi.

I can buy you guys not being down for the 1st, but to say you wouldn't 1-for-1 Pulock for JVR means you aren't exactly interested in improving your team very much.

 

[CodeE]

Barzal's development to where the team feels he's an NHL player is a huge reason why we let Okposo and Nielsen walk in the offseason, because Snow felt he needed to look towards the future, signing PAP to a 1-year bridge deal and then waiving him when Barzal/Beau impressed at camp.

After all that, we're not going to flip Barzal for another veteran. We're going to move forward with the prospects we got and mayyyyyyybe move Dal Colle if the right offer presents itself.

 

[crasherino]

If JVR was a RW I might think about it but we don't need more left wingers to go with the 7 we already have on our roster

This. In all probability, we will have 3 lefties playing right wing tonight. We really don't have a space for another one. And considering 3 of our top prospects are left handed, I don't see a place for another one going forward. Especially a relatively high-priced one.

 

[CodeE]

I can buy you guys not being down for the 1st, but to say you wouldn't 1-for-1 Pulock for JVR means you aren't exactly interested in improving your team very much.

There's more to building and maintaining a team than always being interested in moving bluechip prospects for veterans.

We just let Okposo walk who is only a year older than JVR and comparably similar players. Why are we trading our only legit defensive prospect to fill a hole that doesn't need filling?

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

I can buy you guys not being down for the 1st, but to say you wouldn't 1-for-1 Pulock for JVR means you aren't exactly interested in improving your team very much.

You never would have gotten Pulock. You would have easily gotten the 19th pick. How would trading a developed young defenseman instead of a 1st round pick be not "interesting in improving your team very much"? You would rather trade prospects instead of a 1st round pick?