Bartkowski hit on Gionta (No Supplemental Discipline)

BowieSabresFan

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I would say there is plenty to argue.

It was definitely a penalty but it isn't as cut and dry as you seem to think

Gionta, who never touches the puck, is hit high and hard while vulnerable. Hence the major for interference. You can argue if it the head was the principle point of contact if you want, but that's about it.

It was completely unnecessary, reckless, and stupid. He will get 2-3 games for it.
 

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Predatory hit...
 

CDJ

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The major for interference was added a few years back specifically to address big, but otherwise clean hits that were interference. This seems to apply.







So yes, you can give a major for a hit that's otherwise clean but is interference. And any interference penalty is technically suspendable. I'm not sure if they will or not, but they can.

Interesting, thanks for the information!

I don't think he should be suspended, but based on the rules you provided I can absolutely understand the penalty (not that I had a huge problem with it anyway since it looks especially bad in real time)
 

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Brutal hit. At least Foligno jumped in and pounded the kid

Is that what a pounding is in Buffalo ? :laugh: Should have been interference nothing more.

Should have given his visor a penalty for cutting him. Not Barts fault the guy he hit is 5 feet

There will be zero games lost for that.
 

CDJ

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Gionta, who never touches the puck, is hit high and hard while vulnerable. Hence the major for interference. You can argue if it the head was the principle point of contact if you want, but that's about it.

It was completely unnecessary, reckless, and stupid. He will get 2-3 games for it.

Well that is what I want to argue about it since I think that determines if he is suspended or not.

So like I said, I don't really think it is as cut and dry as you think. Could he get 2-3 games? Abso-****ing-lutely. But I could also see him getting nothing, and I wouldn't have an issue with that either (seeing as how Orpik got nothing last year for the same thing on Eriksson)
 

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Because the puck was nowhere near Gionta and the hit is on a thin line of being legal I think Bartkowski gets some games. Initial contact is not the head but the follow through defensively gets the noggin.

Glad Gionta skated off on his own.
 

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Pretty clear shoulder to head hit

Tell Gionta to get taller then.

Seriously, this league and it's fans are turning into softies! Blame Bart since Gionta's short. Got it.

Clean hit, kept his shoulder down, and the head wasn't the principle point of contact.

NEXT!
 

BowieSabresFan

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Well that is what I want to argue about it since I think that determines if he is suspended or not.

So like I said, I don't really think it is as cut and dry as you think. Could he get 2-3 games? Abso-****ing-lutely. But I could also see him getting nothing, and I wouldn't have an issue with that either (seeing as how Orpik got nothing last year for the same thing on Eriksson)

What's not cut and dry from what I said? That the head was the primary point of contact? Sure, I can go with that.

It was still late, unnecessary, and predatory. Also, you can get suspended for things other than head hits.
 

CDJ

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What's not cut and dry from what I said? That the head was the primary point of contact? Sure, I can go with that.

It was still late, unnecessary, and predatory. Also, you can get suspended for things other than head hits.

I agree 100% with the predatory and unnecessary part. I was clamoring for a suspension on the Orpik hit myself with the same reasoning. I just have seen what happens with the NHL disciplinarian system on similar hits and they didn't suspend that time. If they suspend Bartkowski for this then it just proves their inconsistency (which isn't exactly breaking news or anything I guess :laugh: but still)
 

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Hard to tell from gif but maybe it's a bit late, thus interference. I don't see any head shot, just late. Nice freaking hit, love it (if it wasn't late).
 

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What's not cut and dry from what I said? That the head was the primary point of contact? Sure, I can go with that.

It was still late, unnecessary, and predatory. Also, you can get suspended for things other than head hits.

If Orpik didn't get one on Eriksson last year, then I don't see how this hit is going to get one.

And I think Orpik should have, so we'll see if the NHL follows their own past rulings.

Either way I'm fine with Bart sitting 2 for the hit but ya never know with the NHL.
 

CDJ

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The follow through was a bit high and I can definitely see why he might get in trouble for it.

It's just a shame the NHL disciplinarian system is in the state it's in. So....you know....we could actually know what a suspension is or isn't
 

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Gee Eriksson gets a hit not even half as bad by John Scott last year and bruins fans cry and Scott gets suspended. This is worse and Bruins fans making excuses. Not surprised.
 

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