Ballon D'or 2021: Who wins it?

[cgf]

Wait, Kane got MotM? The hell?

 

[Live in the Now]

They’re not giving it to a 7th place guy. Stop being ridiculous.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

I scoffed at Kante at this point I have no words Jorginho, Kane, what’s next Pickford or maguire! Lol

all that matters for me is tomorrow. They say there’s always tomorrow but after that… might be a long long time before I witness anything good tbh.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

It should be Harry Kane, but the lazy judges pick will be Messi

Wtf? Kane probably had his worst season. (And Yes I am aware he got the scoring title in EPL) but it's about contribution not getting scoring title on a down year.

 

[robertmac43]

It should be Harry Kane, but the lazy judges pick will be Messi

He did guide Spurs to the conference league.... the first captain to lead a prem team to the completion so I guess there is an argument there....

 

[jimmysheva]

Sterling

 

[gary69]

The winning criteria should be roughly weighted 1/3 for being one of the most important players in the domestic title winning club (or clearly a level above anybody else if not being part of the title winning club). 1/3 weighted similarly for the CL winners, and then the last 1/3 for winning Euro/Copa America etc.

Potentially, from City there are players such as Sterling, Walker, Stones, Foden, Ederson, Aguero, then Lautaro from Inter, from Chelsea Thiago Silva, Mount, Jorginho, Emerson and Chilwell.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Only Messi and Lewa are serious candidates.

Wait, Kane got MotM? The hell?

Past two games actually.

 

[cgf]

Only Messi and Lewa are serious candidates.



Past two games actually.

I missed the ukraine match, so he might've deserved that one. But against Denmark? The fuq?

 

[Suiteness]

I missed the ukraine match, so he might've deserved that one. But against Denmark? The fuq?

His through ball setup the tying goal and he scored the game winner.

 

[cgf]

His through ball setup the tying goal and he scored the game winner.

Yeah, he made the one great play...

 

[The Abusement Park]

Yeah, he made the one great play...

Hence he’s the player of the tournament. Duh.

 

[AB13]

Messi is obviously gonna win. Anything else isn’t reasonable.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

The winning criteria should be roughly weighted 1/3 for being one of the most important players in the domestic title winning club (or clearly a level above anybody else if not being part of the title winning club). 1/3 weighted similarly for the CL winners, and then the last 1/3 for winning Euro/Copa America etc.

Potentially, from City there are players such as Sterling, Walker, Stones, Foden, Ederson, Aguero, then Lautaro from Inter, from Chelsea Thiago Silva, Mount, Jorginho, Emerson and Chilwell.

How is kun eligible? He’s been injured for city and barely played for Argentina. When he has he’s sucked? This makes no sense

 

[gary69]

How is kun eligible? He’s been injured for city and barely played for Argentina. When he has he’s sucked? This makes no sense

I don't mean all of them are serious candidates, basically just a list of players of those clubs/countries who have been successful this season. Imo, the winner should be selected from this kind of team, like Conn Smythe is not awarded to a player whose team didn't make it to Stanley Cup Finals.

 

[Suiteness]

Yeah, he made the one great play...

England didn't do much in that game clearly.

Hence he’s the player of the tournament. Duh.

Huh, we were talking about the game against Denmark, not the entire tournament. Sorry to have offended you Messi fan boys.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

I don't mean all of them are serious candidates, basically just a list of players of those clubs/countries who have been successful this season. Imo, the winner should be selected from this kind of team, like Conn Smythe is not awarded to a player whose team didn't make it to Stanley Cup Finals.

Understood on the first part but the trophy isn’t the best in a single competition like the conn smythe. Imagine not giving McDavid the MVP because his team didn’t win the presidents trophy nor won the cup. That’s a closer analogy

 

[AB13]

I don't mean all of them are serious candidates, basically just a list of players of those clubs/countries who have been successful this season. Imo, the winner should be selected from this kind of team, like Conn Smythe is not awarded to a player whose team didn't make it to Stanley Cup Finals.

It’s an individual award. Team achievments already matter too much in Ballon D’or voting. For example, Kante and Suarez are the only players from Chelsea and Atletico that should be in lets say the top 25.

 

[cgf]

England didn't do much in that game clearly.



Huh, we were talking about the game against Denmark, not the entire tournament. Sorry to have offended you Messi fan boys.

Harry didn’t do much. Kyle Walker & Raheem Sterling, on the other hand...

 

[The Abusement Park]

Harry didn’t do much. Kyle Walker & Raheem Sterling, on the other hand...

Luke Shaw

 

[cgf]

Luke Shaw

I didn’t notice Shaw as much as the other two...but I’ve only watched the match once, so definitely missed some things

Walker was just everywhere keeping the Danes from blowing it open, and Sterling was everywhere creating pressure. So they just popped off the screen for me.

 

[gary69]

It’s an individual award. Team achievments already matter too much in Ballon D’or voting. For example, Kante and Suarez are the only players from Chelsea and Atletico that should be in lets say the top 25.

If it's an individual award, then Messi would have won the past 10+ years like I said before. So clearly, it isn't an individual award (alone). Team success matters most in any given year.

 

[luiginb]

So Schmeichel got robbed twice.

OT: Messi, of course.

 

[AB13]

If it's an individual award, then Messi would have won the past 10+ years like I said before. So clearly, it isn't an individual award (alone). Team success matters most in any given year.

Team sucess matters, but it isn’t what matters most. It should matter much less than it does now, which is my point. I also don’t accept that Messi has been the best individual player every year for 10 straight years. Ronaldo has been the best player in the world for like 4 of those.

 

[gary69]

Team sucess matters, but it isn’t what matters most. It should matter much less than it does now, which is my point. I also don’t accept that Messi has been the best individual player every year for 10 straight years. Ronaldo has been the best player in the world for like 4 of those.

You only think so because of his team success. E.G. if Real had lost all those CL finals (with Ronaldo otherwise similar individual stats) he would be seen in different light.

Of course you have every right to think that team success should matter less, but that seems unlikely to happen anytime soon. Individual awards are always likely to go for players from winning/finalist teams.