Speculation: Ball Arena

[hockeyfish]

Best we can do is cookie cutter apartments that cost 4k a month.

Better than a f***ing parkinglot.

 

[henchman21]

Better than a f***ing parkinglot.

 

[famicommander]

All this means to me is I won't be able to park for free outside Elitch's anymore.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Best we can do is cookie cutter apartments that cost 4k a month.

Excuse me, it’s affordable housing. Those apartments will be 3899 a month.

 

[Pokecheque]

Eh, the area around Auraria Campus isn't that bad. It's not as nice as, say, 20th and Blake, but it's never really bothered me, especially since parking for Avs/Nuggets games is much easier IMO than the other venues.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

Isn't the last floated plan to be out near Gaylord Resorts in Aurora?

I've heard two rumors.

Out by the Gaylord, and the other was basically further south on the South Platte in the industrial area around Meow Wolf.

 

[henchman21]

I've heard two rumors.

Out by the Gaylord, and the other was basically further south on the South Platte in the industrial area around Meow Wolf.

Remember the Meow Wolf one too and thought it recently got shut down. Hell if I know though... and the last time I went to Elitches was ~2005, so maybe I'm the problem.

 

[sethro109]

They should just demolish Ball Arena, build a giant parking structure next to Mile High (Empowered Field) and put the new arena on the other side with it also connecting to the parking structure. They could have skywalks connecting at all levels of the structure to the stadium and arena. Also have it with i25 on and off ramps. Kroenke and Walton are brother in laws right? Shouldn't be too hard to coordinate.

 

[henchman21]

They should just demolish Ball Arena, build a giant parking structure next to Mile High (Empowered Field) and put the new arena on the other side with it also connecting to the parking structure. They could have skywalks connecting at all levels of the structure to the stadium and arena. Also have it with i25 on and off ramps. Kroenke and Walton are brother in laws right? Shouldn't be too hard to coordinate.

Broncos are more likely to build a whole new stadium in the next decade.

 

[sethro109]

Broncos are more likely to build a whole new stadium in the next decade.

You think so? I think Ball needs the upgrade much, much more.

 

[Ceremony]

Raze the entire area and construct the 500k capacity Nathan MacKinnon Memorial Thunderdome. The greatest stadium the world has ever seen.

 

[Murzu]

Remember the Meow Wolf one too and thought it recently got shut down. Hell if I know though... and the last time I went to Elitches was ~2005, so maybe I'm the problem.

There's a Meow Wolf in Colorado? Went to one New Mexico.

 

[sethro109]

There's a Meow Wolf in Colorado? Went to one New Mexico.

Yeah, it's right next to ball arena. I went a couple times, it's pretty cool. The building is gigantic. I can't imagine leasing that place is cheap.

 

[henchman21]

You think so? I think Ball needs the upgrade much, much more.

The new ownership is already floating it. They want the Super Bowl to come to Denver... which really means they need a dome or retractable roof. Add in by the time it would be completed (2032 since that's when the lease ends), they'd be there over 30 years and probably 4th-6th oldest stadium at that point... makes it easy for the ownership to demand. I'd expect a lot of public funds to be thrown at it too.

Though I agree Ball Arena is even further behind their counterparts than Empower is. It is a bottom 10 arena with the likes of Florida and Philly. It is just a generic arena and very far from the Vegas, Montreal and Nashville's of the NHL. Hell even very far from the Tampa and Detroits.

 

[willy702]

I would be all for the complete banning of public funds for sports venues, but I realize that's pie-in-the-sky thinking.

Did he ask for money? I sure didn't see any request for money. I don't get the big hate for this project, about the only opposition to it is from people whose view is getting obstructed.

 

[Pokecheque]

Did he ask for money? I sure didn't see any request for money. I don't get the big hate for this project, about the only opposition to it is from people whose view is getting obstructed.

It was just more of a general musing about these sorts of projects as public funding has increased quite a bit in recent years.

He may not be asking for money but if he isn’t getting that, he’s getting another concession from the public sector.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1848890179580494219

But it won’t happen quickly.The privately financed mixed-used development could break ground in 2026, the Denver Gazette previously reported. However, it could take more than a quarter century to complete. KSE senior vice president Matt Mahoney indicated the project would likely begin with a pedestrian and bike bridge over Speer Boulevard.

The “big date” to keep in mind is 2050.

"This is the date we're asking for all of our entitlement vesting for both River Mile and Ball Arena to be protected," Mahoney said. "And in return, we've committed to keeping our teams at Ball Arena through 2050."

No way in hell that Ball Arena is still there in 2050

 

[yeaher]

This is good, I've been hearing more and more noise from randoms in San Diego (uber drivers, waiters, bartenders, etc.) that Kroenke wants a hockey team in San Diego.

 

[S E P H]

This is good, I've been hearing more and more noise from randoms in San Diego (uber drivers, waiters, bartenders, etc.) that Kroenke wants a hockey team in San Diego.

He wants an arena there, not really a sports team there. He wants to make a SoFi Stadium 2.0 for NBA/NHL.

 

[henchman21]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1848890179580494219

No way in hell that Ball Arena is still there in 2050

Yeah Ball Arena isn't lasting like MSG, but with the land, they'll probably build in the same area.

This is good, I've been hearing more and more noise from randoms in San Diego (uber drivers, waiters, bartenders, etc.) that Kroenke wants a hockey team in San Diego.

Only grocery store baggers are reliable sources.

He wants an arena there, not really a sports team there. He wants to make a SoFi Stadium 2.0 for NBA/NHL.

Stan won't be able to own teams in San Diego with the bylaws, but it is increasingly rare that a private company not associated with ownership owns a rink and leases it back to teams. It would be pretty odd for him to own a San Diego arena and lease it out to a different ownership group.

With that, it wouldn't be all that surprising for KSE to sell the Avs and Nuggets to a different group and he ends up with a San Diego group if expansion could be secured. San Diego really isn't on the radar for either league though, so we're probably talking ~10-15+ out anyway.