Prospect Info: Bakersfield Condors 24-25 thread
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McDNicks17
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That's just stat watching, basically.
He's been really good. Always dangerous and Chaulk has him really committed to two-way play.
Bako's PP% was like 5%(and it's still 0% at home haha), so his totals aren't getting juiced by PP points.
McJadeddog
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0% at home? lol, really? wow, that is quite the stat 25 games into the season.
Savoie has been a disappointment for certain so far though, I can't see how you could spin it otherwise. He still has 2/3rds of the season to turn it around though.
Just took a look at their PP stats. They have the least amount of PP chances in the league. The highest team was 124 opportunities and they have 67, lol. Wowzers, that is quite the gap. The gap from top-bottom in the NHL is 125 to 79, as an example.
LTIR
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It's Savoies first pro season playing against men. He has 2 yrs to turn it around.
I think we should've kept his brother to ease him in a bit more and we could've used Carter in Bako
I think we should've kept his brother to ease him in a bit more and we could've used Carter in Bako
Reginald Dunlop
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Lowetide and Bruce Curlock both follow prospects as closely as anyone and have been very positive about Savoie's first year pro so far. Just today LT posted that Savoie is at .44 ppg at even strength compared to Holloway at .30 in his same 20 yo season.
Very excited to see Savoie with elite players. Curlock sees Savoie posting superior numbers in the NHL with players who can take advantage of the opportunities he creates compared to in Bako, and I agree.
Very excited to see Savoie with elite players. Curlock sees Savoie posting superior numbers in the NHL with players who can take advantage of the opportunities he creates compared to in Bako, and I agree.
Once again, stat watching.
McDNicks17
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To add to that, that guy seems to have just copy and pasted Byron Bader's model and made it worse somehow.
Bader, despite being a disgusting Flames fan, is a legit data scientist and the trailblazer on this type of model on Twitter. I haven't seen anything about Savoie from him this season, but here's what he had to say back when the Oilers traded for him:
91% NHLer, 66% star. He'd have to be having a truly horrific season for that to drop to 22% NHLer, 2% star probabilities.
Bader, despite being a disgusting Flames fan, is a legit data scientist and the trailblazer on this type of model on Twitter. I haven't seen anything about Savoie from him this season, but here's what he had to say back when the Oilers traded for him:
91% NHLer, 66% star. He'd have to be having a truly horrific season for that to drop to 22% NHLer, 2% star probabilities.
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What do you mean “how could you spin it otherwise”?
2nd on the team in points in his first season pro. I have only watched 3 condors games this season but he has stuck out in a good way in every one of them.
Stoneman89
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Not sure why we should have kept his brother to ease him in. He's a grown man and should be able to function without that. Would make a nice story, but this is professional hockey.
The same poster who always expects injuries to be much worse than they are, is expecting and hoping for a prospect to fail?
Not shocking at all.
Yet when anyone else speculates about injuries he just says they're talking out of their ass.
This is my take as well, Bako is dry this season offensively and highlight watching his instincts show well. I’m not worried, since he was acquired I’ve expected him to play most of this year in the AHL. To get accustomed to the pro game and with the Oilers having more than enough top six options.
McShogun99
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Smaller players usually take a few years to gain some man strength when playing against men. Not comparing Savoie to Bedard but Bedard is considered a generational talent and he’s having a rough go this year. I figure by the time Savoie is 22 he’ll be a good NHLer.
I wonder if the Hawks are purposely giving him 2nd and 3rd tier line mates to try and reduce his second contract. All their missing is Jeff Skinner, from their we’ll they’re decent forwards offence core. I know it’s too early for top UFAs to want to sign on to a rebuild, but usually those looking for a rebirth or a payday are interested.
Though Celebrini looks like the better NHLer, but there’s only a 2” and five pound difference between him and Bédard.
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Bryanbryoil
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Savoie with 1-1-2 for the 2nd game in a row. Suddenly he's at 18 points in 26 games only 2 points back of Seth Griffith for the team lead.
Soli
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Savoie bodied the defender and beats him back to the front of the net to tap home a goal.
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Soli
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Petrov has 13 points in 26 games, took him 53 games last season to net 14 points.
Savoie to Pedersen, a rare PPG.
Philp nets another PPG.
Josh Brown is sick after spending Xmas in Edmonton, so Nathan Gaucher thinks he can run around.
Savoie to Pedersen, again, but at ES.
Savoie to Pedersen, a rare PPG.
Philp nets another PPG.
Josh Brown is sick after spending Xmas in Edmonton, so Nathan Gaucher thinks he can run around.
Savoie to Pedersen, again, but at ES.
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Bryanbryoil
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And just like that, Savoie sits at 8-12-20 in 27 games and is tied for 10th in AHL rookie scoring. 2-4-6 in his last 3 games and 4-4-8 in his last 5 games.
Filthy play by Petrov on his assist as well! Things might actually be looking up down on the farm!
Filthy play by Petrov on his assist as well! Things might actually be looking up down on the farm!
TheNumber4
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Ultimately Savoie will be a complementary winger for one of our 2 stud Centerman. A player like that developments won’t be “busted” until we see what he can do at the NHL level, even if his AHL numbers are underwhelming.
But glad to see him pick up the production pace, if only to shut up the “He’s a Bust” crowd.
But glad to see him pick up the production pace, if only to shut up the “He’s a Bust” crowd.
Bryanbryoil
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He will be Connor or Leon's "Robin" for sure IMO, but if he can be more than that, that would be amazing.
Oilhawks
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Please call up one of these guys and sit a glue factory guy or two
There’s different levels of bust anyways. Will he be an NHL player. Most likely. Will he be the player people thought when he was drafted, no. But that doesn’t mean he will be a bad player.
I am worried about his effectiveness and longevity in the NhL due to his size but that’s not something that effects him until it does.
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McJadeddog
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The nice thing is that we aren’t the team that drafted him, so we don’t have outsized expectations based on his draft position. We traded a third line guy who we couldn’t afford anymore for him. Entirely different set of expectations
Bryanbryoil
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A little early to be blowing that trumpet don't you think?
Maybe? When he was drafted people legit thought he was going to be an NHL star but I don’t see that in his game and neither did Buffalo really and probably other teams as well or he wouldn’t have gone for McLeod.
He will probably be a good middle 6 top 6 winger is fine. Nothing about his progress or game screams star. Which is absolutely fine.
I do know his stock hit a huge hit at the world juniors last year. Probably why we landed him.
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