Prospect Info: Bakersfield Condors 24-25 thread

McJadeddog

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That's just stat watching, basically.

He's been really good. Always dangerous and Chaulk has him really committed to two-way play.

Bako's PP% was like 5%(and it's still 0% at home haha), so his totals aren't getting juiced by PP points.
0% at home? lol, really? wow, that is quite the stat 25 games into the season.

Savoie has been a disappointment for certain so far though, I can't see how you could spin it otherwise. He still has 2/3rds of the season to turn it around though.

Just took a look at their PP stats. They have the least amount of PP chances in the league. The highest team was 124 opportunities and they have 67, lol. Wowzers, that is quite the gap. The gap from top-bottom in the NHL is 125 to 79, as an example.
 

Reginald Dunlop

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Lowetide and Bruce Curlock both follow prospects as closely as anyone and have been very positive about Savoie's first year pro so far. Just today LT posted that Savoie is at .44 ppg at even strength compared to Holloway at .30 in his same 20 yo season.

Very excited to see Savoie with elite players. Curlock sees Savoie posting superior numbers in the NHL with players who can take advantage of the opportunities he creates compared to in Bako, and I agree.
 

Tobias Kahun

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0% at home? lol, really? wow, that is quite the stat 25 games into the season.

Savoie has been a disappointment for certain so far though, I can't see how you could spin it otherwise. He still has 2/3rds of the season to turn it around though.

Just took a look at their PP stats. They have the least amount of PP chances in the league. The highest team was 124 opportunities and they have 67, lol. Wowzers, that is quite the gap. The gap from top-bottom in the NHL is 125 to 79, as an example.
Once again, stat watching.
 

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To add to that, that guy seems to have just copy and pasted Byron Bader's model and made it worse somehow.

Bader, despite being a disgusting Flames fan, is a legit data scientist and the trailblazer on this type of model on Twitter. I haven't seen anything about Savoie from him this season, but here's what he had to say back when the Oilers traded for him:


91% NHLer, 66% star. He'd have to be having a truly horrific season for that to drop to 22% NHLer, 2% star probabilities.
 
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0% at home? lol, really? wow, that is quite the stat 25 games into the season.

Savoie has been a disappointment for certain so far though, I can't see how you could spin it otherwise. He still has 2/3rds of the season to turn it around though.

Just took a look at their PP stats. They have the least amount of PP chances in the league. The highest team was 124 opportunities and they have 67, lol. Wowzers, that is quite the gap. The gap from top-bottom in the NHL is 125 to 79, as an example.
What do you mean “how could you spin it otherwise”?

2nd on the team in points in his first season pro. I have only watched 3 condors games this season but he has stuck out in a good way in every one of them.
 

Stoneman89

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It's Savoies first pro season playing against men. He has 2 yrs to turn it around.
I think we should've kept his brother to ease him in a bit more and we could've used Carter in Bako
Not sure why we should have kept his brother to ease him in. He's a grown man and should be able to function without that. Would make a nice story, but this is professional hockey.
 

Tobias Kahun

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What do you mean “how could you spin it otherwise”?

2nd on the team in points in his first season pro. I have only watched 3 condors games this season but he has stuck out in a good way in every one of them.
The same poster who always expects injuries to be much worse than they are, is expecting and hoping for a prospect to fail?

Not shocking at all.

Yet when anyone else speculates about injuries he just says they're talking out of their ass.
 

CROTT

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Lowetide and Bruce Curlock both follow prospects as closely as anyone and have been very positive about Savoie's first year pro so far. Just today LT posted that Savoie is at .44 ppg at even strength compared to Holloway at .30 in his same 20 yo season.

Very excited to see Savoie with elite players. Curlock sees Savoie posting superior numbers in the NHL with players who can take advantage of the opportunities he creates compared to in Bako, and I agree.
This is my take as well, Bako is dry this season offensively and highlight watching his instincts show well. I’m not worried, since he was acquired I’ve expected him to play most of this year in the AHL. To get accustomed to the pro game and with the Oilers having more than enough top six options.
 

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Smaller players usually take a few years to gain some man strength when playing against men. Not comparing Savoie to Bedard but Bedard is considered a generational talent and he’s having a rough go this year. I figure by the time Savoie is 22 he’ll be a good NHLer.
 

CROTT

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Smaller players usually take a few years to gain some man strength when playing against men. Not comparing Savoie to Bedard but Bedard is considered a generational talent and he’s having a rough go this year. I figure by the time Savoie is 22 he’ll be a good NHLer.

I wonder if the Hawks are purposely giving him 2nd and 3rd tier line mates to try and reduce his second contract. All their missing is Jeff Skinner, from their we’ll they’re decent forwards offence core. I know it’s too early for top UFAs to want to sign on to a rebuild, but usually those looking for a rebirth or a payday are interested.

Though Celebrini looks like the better NHLer, but there’s only a 2” and five pound difference between him and Bédard.
 
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