Prospect Info: Bakersfield Condors 24-25 thread
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Senor Catface
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You're right. It's a great idea for a Stanley Cup contender to pay a goalie with no NHL experience three times the league minimum.
He's a future #1 goalie. Something the Oilers don't really have in their system. What he got paid today is irrelevant to a team that traded down from him in order to get a player who ends up highly likely busting.
Future when? As of next season, a year they expect to win a Cup, he'd be taking up $2m of cap and seemingly a backup role showing absolutely no evidence of that 'future' projection.
The 'elite' goalie prospect market is currently inflated. That's with the current information available to us. If you go back to the date of that draft, the Oilers had recently spent a 2nd rounder on Olivier Rodrigue, who they were likely to prioritize.
I'm absolutely fine regretting the team's willingness to pass on Wyatt Johnston. But passing on Wallstedt always made logical sense. His current extension only compounds that.
He’ll be a number one goalie. We’ll agree to disagree in regards to him. That draft was still considered an absolute grade F. Tyler Wright’s drafting resume was a colossal failure.
Five entire draft classes - 25 picks in all - and turned them into a trade chip for Ekholm, a 2nd and 3rd rounder, and *maybe* two or three legitimate prospects. Horrendous by the Holland/Wright drafting regime.
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In typical AHL fashion, our first game is Oct 11, then we don't play again for a week.
The last few years the opening game has been free to watch.
The way to watch games has changed FYI.
There is no longer the option to buy packages for single teams, and instead it is 150 bucks USD for the entire year and you get all Flo Sports content.
I think I will pass this year.
The last few years the opening game has been free to watch.
The way to watch games has changed FYI.
There is no longer the option to buy packages for single teams, and instead it is 150 bucks USD for the entire year and you get all Flo Sports content.
I think I will pass this year.
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To be fair though aside from Anton Lundell this is pretty much what Florida's draft picture looks like for the same period.
Five entire draft classes - 25 picks in all - and turned them into a trade chip for Ekholm, a 2nd and 3rd rounder, and *maybe* two or three legitimate prospects. Horrendous by the Holland/Wright drafting regime.
Here is Vegas
Here is Colorado:
Here is Boston:
Here is Toronto:
This is not so inconsistent with other top contenders. There are of course exceptions. Dallas may be the biggest winner but even their draft list looks pretty sparse after three or four guys:
Florida: Their first 4 picks in 2019 are all NHL players/Tweeners. Knights legit, Kolyachonok and Ludvig are 7th d, Schwindt is a 14th forward. Levi was trending well, Samoskevich looks legit. 2022/2023 drafts they mostly had later picks so who knows. No one stands out though
Vegas: Krebs looks like a bad pick but it helped them get Eichel, Dorofeyev is a legit every day player, same with Brisson from the looks of it. Zach Dean might punch an Oiler in the face sooner than later, Edstrom landed them Hertl.
Colorado: Got Byram (turned directly into a good 2c), Newhooks good and was moved for a 1st and 2nd (both prospects trending well). Barron is an NHLer(they turned him into Lehkonen), Aman is an NHL 4th liner. 2023 looks like a good draft for them.
Boston: Beecher is a 4th liner today, Lohrei made the bruins as a top 4 d, Lysell trending well, Poitras is an NHL player.
Toronto: Robertson is a player, Amirov was trending well till he died, Knies is struck gold same with Cowan.
Dallas: "Sparse" Is fine when those 3-4 guys are as good as they are. Harley is a top pairing defender, Bourque is a 3c today but has tons and tons of upside, Johnston is borderline elite and Stankoven is in the same place as Bourque but a winger. Bischel is on the cusp of making their lineup same with Kyrou.
Oilers: Broberg might be a 4/5 d, got a 2nd for him, Holloway is an NHLer but will most likely be limited Offensively. Wanner might be a 6/7 d eventually? Schaefer helped us land Ekholm. Akey is intriguing but that missed year could be huge. And thats it.
So while we look relatively similar, all of those teams still have multiple good pieces OR have multiple good pieces that they traded them for. Basically our entire draft for those 5 years the only piece of quality or note we have from them is Ekholm, which is a good piece but thats it. We have been awful at drafting and asset management.
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Looking at Condors depth on LW
1) Jarventie on IR
2) Hamblin upside Oiler 4th line
3)Caggiula 30yo
4)Petrov heading straight down hill
1) Jarventie on IR
2) Hamblin upside Oiler 4th line
3)Caggiula 30yo
4)Petrov heading straight down hill
There are other players in the NHL from our draft picks but they are not playing for us.
We were looking at the 2019-2023 drafts. Which equals Broberg and Holloway and thats it.
Petrov is a second year pro after a very successful junior career. Let's pump the brakes on the bust label. The kid is 21.
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No one called him a bust. His game is definitely not good right now and looked so bad he got cut super early. His game is in a bad place, he was miles worse than Bourgault was at the same spot of development and Bourgault is a bust.
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I'm kind of surprised they didn't try and keep him around for even another season.
Small limited player with not a lot of offence. I get why they let him walk.
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I mean they might've been offering him a AHL deal similar to the Reign, but decided Europe was a better option.
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Yeah, I wonder if they were close to bringing him back. Especially with his brother joining soon after.
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