Proposal: Bad contracts and draft picks to the Calgary Flames

pth2

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How about Josh Anderson?
I'd rather keep him than spend assets to move him. It's not like Montreal has anyone else to use that cap room on anyways.

And in a year, the cost to move him will be lower, heck, with a rising cap, he might even have neutral or positive value after a strong season.
 

Volica

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I think Calgary's better off retaining on Mangi or Markstrom and seeing how much that's worth before taking on bad contracts just for the sake of doing it.

There's no shortage of veterans that'd take 1-3 year deals with a bit of a salary bloat to help rebuild this club and then look to get traded by the deadline in their respective years.
 
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Nanuuk

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Lol, I've offered much more than that previously in this thread lol

A simple 2025 1st? I'd do that right the f*** now

I'd let you chose whichever you want: Calgary's 2025 1st or Montréal's


I've offered previously 2025 Calagary's 1st, Montréal 2024 3rd and Justin Barron
Then the short answer is that I would do it.
 

GeeoffBrown

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I guess one thing is that the Flames already have Kadri and Huberdeau on stinky contracts, so I would not want bad contracts with any term
 

Nanuuk

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I guess one thing is that the Flames already have Kadri and Huberdeau on stinky contracts, so I would not want bad contracts with any term
Huberdeau's has been stinky (so far), Kadri has been full value (so far).

Personally I expect Huberdeau to more or less return to form over the life of his contract and Kadri to peter out over the life of his contract.
 

User1996

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The only ones that makes sense to me are maybe a Jeannot type deal. Even with that, I don’t see there being an issue getting Coronato, Zary, Pospisil (or them losing their spot). I feel like we can’t afford a cap dump on D, even though that feels like a popular opinion. We already ran out an embarrassing D core after the deadline, add a cap dump to that, and a Vladar/Wolf tandem seems like a disaster. Especially if you want Wolf to have any semblance of confidence.
 

Nanuuk

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I didn't find our D Corp to be embarrassing at all. The two rookies, Miromanov and Pachal, acquitted themselves very well.

If anything Andersson was the weak link in the group.
 

User1996

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Miromanov looked fine. So did Pachal for about 20 games before showing more like you’d think a waiver pickup would. I’d say “very well” is an overstatement. But neither are near the calibre of a top 4 D, which at least one was playing all times.

I know we as a fan base all love Kylington, and respect him for even coming back, but he certainly wasn’t a difference maker aside from a handful of games. He’s not, at this point, a guy that should be your clear #3 going into a season.

I mean, there’s a reason the Flames went 7-13 post deadline and 31-26-5 before it. And it’s probably largely due to how porous they were allowing chances against.

Weegar/Miromanov, Kylington/Andersson, Solovyov/Pachal would probably stack up as a bottom group, at least defensively. Either way, that’s a group I don’t want a rookie goalie playing 40+ games behind when you’re trying to develop him. Would much rather use cap to actually add a useful piece to that group to get Wolf some help.
 

madmike77

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I guess one thing is that the Flames already have Kadri and Huberdeau on stinky contracts, so I would not want bad contracts with any term
Calgary actually needs those contracts at the moment. Once Markstrom is gone, the Flames will be pretty much at the cap floor. And it's not like UFAs are dying to play in Calgary for a non-contender.
 
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TageGod

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Jeff Skinner won't waive his NMC, but in fantasy land:

Skinner + 11oa for Kadri 50% retained

(Kadri won't waive his NMC either)
Why not swap salaries straight up with this? Sabres get a good player, Calgary barely adds cap and gets assets. might be reasonable to say 11th and Kulich + Skinner for Kadri?
 
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Jacob582

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Why not swap salaries straight up with this? Sabres get a good player, Calgary barely adds cap and gets assets. might be reasonable to say 11th and Kulich + Skinner for Kadri?
I always trade Kulich and Rosen together.

So how about Rosen + Kulich + Skinner for Kadri?
 

User1996

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Calgary actually needs those contracts at the moment. Once Markstrom is gone, the Flames will be pretty much at the cap floor. And it's not like UFAs are dying to play in Calgary for a non-contender.
No, you both have good points. Sure, we have an incredible amount of cap space, but term on bad contracts will be pretty detrimental to managements plan of a quick retool.

1-2 year term, sure let’s talk. Anything longer I think Conroy has to be really cautious on.
 

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