Babcock resigning as CBJ Head Coach *Mod note, post #687*

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Because the NHLPA contacted them! They said so themselves. lol.

The NHLPA contacted them because they were the source of the accusation. That doesn't magically mean the NHLPA was willing to abandon the investigation and it was just Spittin Chicklets that kept it alive.

Also, how is that cancel culture to begin with? My original point was that this didn't even remotely fall in "cancel culture".
 
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''All in all, coach Babcock wanted to run his ship very tightly, and you can't coach in a dictatorship any more in this generation's NHL. It doesn't work these days. Adapt or fail. He didn't adapt enough.''
 
Whitney actually confirmed it on a podcast:

Starts at 46:30



After the CBJ players statement, the PA was texting Biz and Whitney saying well - they said it's a lie. Whitney and Biz had to tell the PA it's true and they had valid sources and then the PA started interviewing. They were ready to close the investigation.

So you're calling what would be actions of conducing and investigation considering closing an investigation?

There's such a weird pull some people are saying here trying to make up divisions and make this about some points that have nothing to do with. If you are some of the people here that think that, you're way too deep in some bubble of people and probably taking a few random people online as if they're a community.
 
Are we going to find out what actually happened? I hope so because there is a lot more going on than what we know.

Not exactly sure how you mean this- the more that comes out the worse it sounds. The “more” here might be hilarious, but I don’t think there’s a part of the story that makes Babcock look ok.

Babs: “You don’t understand, I knew *player X* had dick picks from when I went through his phone in my office. That’s how I knew I had to meet him in a McDonalds parking lot to discuss matters. What? What’s weird about that?”
 
The NHLPA contacted them because they were the source of the accusation. That doesn't magically mean the NHLPA was willing to abandon the investigation and it was just Spittin Chicklets that kept it alive.

Also, how is that cancel culture to begin with? My original point was that this didn't even remotely fall in "cancel culture".
Babcock has done the exact same thing in two previous teams. Then when he does it in 2023 he is forced to resign as to not be a distraction due to public outcry.

How is that not cancel culture?
 
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Didn't Jarmo choke out a guy who pulled a knife on him? He's not a guy who would ever resign his position
 
In the business world, Jarmo and JD would be packing up and updating their LinkedIn. CBJ owner must be a patient dude. Its not like they've been any good along with all these bad optics.
 
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You know, it’s not the amount of time they had together, more what they learned along the way that’s important.

Can’t put a price on that sort of thing.
 
So does Babcock still get paid? How does that work?
I could be wrong but if you quit then you forfeit the salary owed to you. It’s probably what Davidson meant by still discussing the matter to get rid of him without paying him. It was the same thing with Peters.
 
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Terrible look for Columbus. Don't know who would want to got there when the management is this incompetent and thought Babcock was ever a good idea.
 
So you're calling what would be actions of conducing and investigation considering closing an investigation?

There's such a weird pull some people are saying here trying to make up divisions and make this about some points that have nothing to do with. If you are some of the people here that think that, you're way too deep in some bubble of people and probably taking a few random people online as if they're a community.

No, they said we're satisfied with the statements.

If Biz and Whitney didn't push for it - there would be no investigation.

Bill Daly even made a statement saying the PA was satisfied, which is what got the old thread closed.

 
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We'd previously hired a guy about whom similar stories were told and not only did he turn out to be much more of a generally decent person than advertised, he's still the winningest coach in franchise history. It's not unusual that folks here might get to thinking that It's All Just Paper Talk.

It worked the first time beyond anyone's wildest expectations, so he tried to catch lightning in a bottle twice.
The issue with John Tortorella was primarily his hardass nature and temper when things don't go his way, but he's still a professional. I don't look at John Tortorella and think "oh this guy is def gonna mind f*** his players."
He doesn't have a toxic reputation (at least that I know of) where his former players actively speak out against him, the same way that Mike Babcock has. In fact, I think there's only the Dubois thing that was "controversial"? Aside from that, players from CBJ, NYR, TBL still speak fondly of him. Meanwhile, we have a whole horde of players that have spoken out about what a gigantic asshole Babcock is.
 
The issue with John Tortorella was primarily his hardass nature and temper when things don't go his way, but he's still a professional. I don't look at John Tortorella and think "oh this guy is def gonna mind f*** his players."
He doesn't have a toxic reputation (at least that I know of) where his former players actively speak out against him, the same way that Mike Babcock has. In fact, I think there's only the Dubois thing that was "controversial"? Aside from that, players from CBJ, NYR, TBL still speak fondly of him. Meanwhile, we have a whole horde of players that have spoken out about what a gigantic asshole Babcock is.
I don't disagree. I wasn't in favor of giving Babcock the chance, but I was willing to give Kekalainen and Davidson the benefit of the doubt.
 
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