News Article: Babcock article - Noone is spared

[Antropovsky]

'No one is spared': Tracing Mike Babcock's imperious NHL coaching career

His complicated coaching legacy includes championships, big paydays and charges of mistreatment and mental torment.

www.nytimes.com

Some new info on Babs... I can't read it but Reddit has a good summary.

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[HockeyVirus]

Corrado saw little ice time with the Leafs over the next few weeks, spending most games as a healthy scratch. But during practices, Babcock would quietly instruct him to go first in drills, so he’d have to push past star players in line — breaking hockey decorum — while awkwardly trying to explain that he was doing so per the coach’s instruction. Corrado felt Babcock was attempting to “sewer” him with his teammates.

f***ing prick

 

[hotpaws]

Babs is a strange dude but what's up with doing this article now ?

 

[rumman]

Babs is a strange dude but what's up with doing this article now ?

Some people can’t let go, Babcock is considered a pariah in hockey circles, but I guess that’s not enough for some, yet the same crowd willingly wanted coach Q to get the gig here. No principles, plenty of hypocrisy………

 

[hullsy47]

Babs is a strange dude but what's up with doing this article now ?

Cause he ll never have to brown nose around him again
These pigeons can't upset the working coaches or gms because it's their lifeline
It ll be the same when the leafs run it back
U watch

 

[sxvnert]

Babs is a strange dude but what's up with doing this article now ?

Because he's a scumbag whos finally realized he's never coaching again. So now he's firing shots at everyone in Toronto for exposing him as the fraud we all know him to be.

 

[hullsy47]

f***ing prick

He could've sent u to the Marlies tho

 

[Antropovsky]

Was he wrong about any of these guys though? Players he liked, typically have succes, players he doesn't like... typically dont.

Holl, Engvall, Holland, Malgin, Petan... these are all guys that he wouldn't have any interest of having on his team.

He loves guys like Hyman, Moore.

Seems like he's a guy who just doesn't have time for guys he knows are not gonna win and are a waste of his time. If they worked their ass off for him, he'd have rewarded him.

Instead a guy like Holland, whose work ethic was questioned before Toronto wants to meet with him? Instead of working for it on the ice?

Sure... maybe wrong approach at times, but not wrong on the players and certainly worse has likely happened in everyday work for all of us.

He played Bozak a ton, Kadri a lot... etc.

 

[Gallagbi]

Was he wrong about any of these guys though? Players he liked, typically have succes, players he doesn't like... typically dont.

Holl, Engvall, Holland, Malgin, Petan... these are all guys that he wouldn't have any interest of having on his team.

He loves guys like Hyman, Moore.

Seems like he's a guy who just doesn't have time for guys he knows are not gonna win and are a waste of his time. If they worked their ass off for him, he'd have rewarded him.

Instead a guy like Holland, whose work ethic was questioned before Toronto wants to meet with him? Instead of working for it on the ice?

Sure... maybe wrong approach at times, but not wrong on the players and certainly worse has likely happened in everyday work for all of us.

He played Bozak a ton, Kadri a lot... etc.

I mean he ruined Commodore and Fransen's careers. He ruined Anaheim after their miracle run, Kariya bolted and they replaced him with Fedorov only to miss the playoffs.

Then you have to consider who his "guys" were here. Holland and Corrado were being used. It hurt them, but did it help his audience? That drill protocol is a perfect example. Bozak and Kadri end up on the Marner list, win cups elsewhere.

Moore was seeing similar TOI to Freddie the Goat in his last playoff fwiw. Muzzin was getting similar TOI to Hainsey

 

[Nineteen67]

I mean he ruined Commodore and Fransen's careers. He ruined Anaheim after their miracle run, Kariya bolted and they replaced him with Fedorov only to miss the playoffs.

Then you have to consider who his "guys" were here. Holland and Corrado were being used. It hurt them, but did it help his audience? That drill protocol is a perfect example. Bozak and Kadri end up on the Marner list, win cups elsewhere.

Maybe, but Commodore is the biggest reason Commodore wasn’t a great player.

 

[Maple Leaf]

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[Nineteen67]

Access all of The Athletic. Just $2.49 $0.50/week.

No thanks.

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

Babcock was right about all the soft losers on our team though—nonetheless, still a weird asshole.

 

[Rare Jewel]

f***ing prick

"Babcock would quietly instruct him to go first in drills, so he’d have to push past star players in line — breaking hockey decorum"

He's a weird fella, but really, most players usually don't want to be first in drills anyway.

 

[FrozenJagrt]

Maybe, but Commodore is the biggest reason Commodore wasn’t a great player.

Seriously. The guy spent time in the minors during his last season in Columbus. Look at that roster. If Commodore couldn't get playing time on THAT team, he was pretty much done as an effective NHLer. He leaves that part out though.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

I thought the media did a good job addressing the latest Babcock antics (CBJ). Both Sportsnet and TSN (overdrive) gave him his medicine.

I defended him before because he made bad decisions in TOR. I thought he deserved a second chance. No. He blew it.

After his antics in Columbus it's pretty clear that he thinks what he did was ok. He deserves everything he gets: bad press, getting fired before the regular season started, having to coach for a shit team like CBJ, difficulty finding an NHL job, legacy destroyed, etc.

He is not a good person, and just because he thought that Marner, Nylander, Matthews were soft doesn't mean it's OK to be like that.

 

[IPS]

Yeah he's a shit coach, personal antics aside it's pretty obvious the game has passed him by, it's pretty obvious why he hasn't coached in the league since.

I thought the media did a good job addressing the latest Babcock antics (CBJ). Both Sportsnet and TSN (overdrive) gave him his medicine.

I defended him before because he made bad decisions in TOR. I thought he deserved a second chance. No. He blew it.

After his antics in Columbus it's pretty clear that he thinks what he did was ok. He deserves everything he gets: bad press, getting fired before the regular season started, having to coach for a shit team like CBJ, difficulty finding an NHL job, legacy destroyed, etc.

He is not a good person, and just because he thought that Marner, Nylander, Matthews were soft doesn't mean it's OK to be like that.

Pretty balanced take here. There was logical reasons to defend Babcock when he was coaching the Leafs. After everything that's come out about him now there's basically nothing left to defend.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

From his perspective, he's won a cup and multiple golds.

It's hard for a person to change when they've seen success using the same methods. In the end, you look at the Leafs and you realize he was right about his assessment of them anyway.

They didn't prove him wrong at all and now they've gone out and got a coach like Berube.

 

[IPS]

f***ing prick

I'm guessing that's why Corrado has voiced notable displeasure about Babcock since his time with the Leafs

From his perspective, he's won a cup and multiple golds.

It's hard for a person to change when they've seen success using the same methods. In the end, you look at the Leafs and you realize he was right about his assessment of them anyway.

They didn't prove him wrong at all and now they've gone out and got a coach like Berube.

You know 2 things can be true at a time, right?

Babs is a narcissist dickhead and a terrible coach and the Leafs core is still a bunch of losers.

 

[Antropovsky]

Seriously. The guy spent time in the minors during his last season in Columbus. Look at that roster. If Commodore couldn't get playing time on THAT team, he was pretty much done as an effective NHLer. He leaves that part out though.

Commodore also recently went off on the cbj coach and how he was an idiot too.

He said that he was benched over Klesla... and he was a much better player than Klesla.

 

[Nineteen67]

Seriously. The guy spent time in the minors during his last season in Columbus. Look at that roster. If Commodore couldn't get playing time on THAT team, he was pretty much done as an effective NHLer. He leaves that part out though.

And he blamed the coach….patterns.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

2 things can be true:

Babcock big dickhead
Commodore a big baby

?

 

[LeafEgo]

Babs was too big an ass to too many people for too long and eventually they bounced him from the league. The way she goes and good riddance, but he was an effective coach and the 'scandals' were just silly, social media crazy. The Columbus players mostly seemed confused about the whole thing. And the list, dear lord..

So did he call out a bunch of people in Toronto or what?

 

[Anthrax442]

Who cares? Why beat a dead horse again?

 

[Martin Skoula]

You can be an asshole if you get results, Mike “Mike Babcock” “the powerplay is my enforcer” Babcock did not get results since 2009 and nothing he did in Toronto suggested he was capable of getting results going forward. Nobody wants to watch his soft run and gun shinny and that’s all he has when he doesn’t have an All-Star roster with 3x 1D, 2 PPG+ Selke contenders, and a bunch of elite role players.