GDT: Avalanche vs Bruins 1/18/24 @ 5:00PM MNT Moose vs Bear who will win?

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Georgie could have a stat line of 15GA on one save and there would be people praising his one save

 

[twostroke2023]

Long term lurker, finally made an account.

don’t care what the chances are like. 4giev is 60th overall in save percentage and 21st or dead last for save percentage in goalies playing at least 25 games this season. Maybe they weren’t all his fault tonight, but he has actively cost the Avs significantly more games than he’s won them.

I’m usually sea eagles level of positivity, but good god it’s flat out painful to watch. Even if they do get players back and get a decent 2c, they are gonna have a real tough time outscoring a goalie who lets in at least 1 goal for every 10 shots.

 

[wayninja]

Just more proof that we just won't really know what kind of goalie we have unless we blow up the D/forward group and seriously build around George.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Georgie could have a stat line of 15GA on one save and there would be people praising his one save

People really need to analyze the goals against rather than just look at stats. I'm talking just about this game, not the season. Georgiev wasn't the problem tonight, its the complete lack of forward depth.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Long term lurker, finally made an account.

don’t care what the chances are like. 4giev is 60th overall in save percentage and 21st or dead last for save percentage in goalies playing at least 25 games this season. Maybe they weren’t all his fault tonight, but he has actively cost the Avs significantly more games than he’s won them.

I’m usually sea eagles level of positivity, but good god it’s flat out painful to watch. Even if they do get players back and get a decent 2c, they are gonna have a real tough time outscoring a goalie who lets in at least 1 goal for every 10 shots.

Welcome! I personally love that despite being a lurker you are already using the 4giev moniker, haha

 

[The Kingslayer]

Georgie could have a stat line of 15GA on one save and there would be people praising his one save

Fourgiev truthers. Thats what I call them lol. Plenty on Twitter.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

People really need to analyze the goals against rather than just look at stats. I'm talking just about this game, not the season. Georgiev wasn't the problem tonight, its the complete lack of forward depth.

I personally think it is both. At this point I don’t trust George to give the chance to win, and I don’t think the team does either. At the same time, the complete lack of depth is making it even harder

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Welcome! I personally love that despite being a lurker you are already using the 4giev moniker, haha

+ referencing Sea Eagles

+ knows we only last two strokes

Something is fishy..

 

[chet1926]

Georgie could have a stat line of 15GA on one save and there would be people praising his one save

It's getting tough to deal with George supporters right now. Every night is the same story, 4+ goals, and a laundry list from his support group telling me that he didn't shit the bed.

Like the guy sucks this year. Not much else to say, stats don't lie. You can polish a turd but it's still a turd.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

People really need to analyze the goals against rather than just look at stats. I'm talking just about this game, not the season. Georgiev wasn't the problem tonight, its the complete lack of forward depth.

He wasn't completely to blame but also wasn't an active participant in helping the team win. He had a RyJo type performance.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

I personally think it is both. At this point I don’t trust George to give the chance to win, and I don’t think the team does either. At the same time, the complete lack of depth is making it even harder

If he doesn't "give a chance to win", he wouldn't literally be one of the highest total wins goalies in the league. He's been average this year, basically playing like his salary. Maybe overachieved last year or overworked this year. Would love him to play as well as he did last year.

 

[John Mandalorian]

I'm telling ya, dude is not locked in at all. He's playing the game like he's some burnout, who's punching in on a crappy 9 to 5 job.

Perhaps. Or maybe his clock is off?

In receiving a puck, maybe hes thinking too much about what he will do next? His clock is too fast. Its like a WR who drops passes because he thinks about the run after the catch prematurely?

And when he actually he has the puck, maybe his clock isn't running fast enough? He's like a QB who doesnt sense pocket pressure or holds on to the ball too long and then forces passes?

Sorry for so much football analogy.

 

[wayninja]

Has anyone checked his biorhythm?

 

[chet1926]

Long term lurker, finally made an account.

don’t care what the chances are like. 4giev is 60th overall in save percentage and 21st or dead last for save percentage in goalies playing at least 25 games this season. Maybe they weren’t all his fault tonight, but he has actively cost the Avs significantly more games than he’s won them.

I’m usually sea eagles level of positivity, but good god it’s flat out painful to watch. Even if they do get players back and get a decent 2c, they are gonna have a real tough time outscoring a goalie who lets in at least 1 goal for every 10 shots.

Welcome, great post. Fully agree.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Long term lurker, finally made an account.

don’t care what the chances are like. 4giev is 60th overall in save percentage and 21st or dead last for save percentage in goalies playing at least 25 games this season. Maybe they weren’t all his fault tonight, but he has actively cost the Avs significantly more games than he’s won them.

I’m usually sea eagles level of positivity, but good god it’s flat out painful to watch. Even if they do get players back and get a decent 2c, they are gonna have a real tough time outscoring a goalie who lets in at least 1 goal for every 10 shots.

And we should criticize him on the games where he cost us rather than pick a game where the loss is a team effort.

 

[mackinnon29]

And we should criticize him on the games where he cost us rather than pick a game where the loss is a team effort.

True the team efforts wasn’t there tonite, which is why you need your goalie to bail you out every now and then George done it last year, not once this year. The team effort has bailed him out on the other hand many of times

 

[Cypher]

Georgiev didn't win them the game, but he certainly didn't lose it either. But that's what he is. He's the 36th highest paid goalie for a reason. He's a game manager, not a 'steal a game' type goalie. Avs management prefer to spend that extra money on defense and forwards. So when the defensive game has mental lapses, its even that more apparent.

Tonight the Avs were just beat by a better team who showed up on time. Its been the Avs MO for years that they 'start late'. Against shitty teams like Ottawa its not a big deal, but against Cup contenders, you ain't winning.

 

[henchman21]

Has anyone checked his biorhythm?

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

Old coaching secret........ when your goalie isn't making saves, you always tell the team that pointing that one finger means that the other 4 are pointing back at yourself.

And that everyone on the ice is partly to blame for the goal that has been scored..... at some point, some time, somebody blew an assignment.

It's a coping technique.... lol

Ever notice that when the goalie plays out of his head, he gets all the credit and the 5 skaters don't share in the glory?

That's why you need 2 (TWO!) NHL quality goaltenders! Or at least a backup that can play a bunch of games at that level until the ship rights itself.

Management has screwed the pooch here and the players all know it.

 

[AvsWraith]

Perhaps. Or maybe his clock is off?

In receiving a puck, maybe hes thinking too much about what he will do next? His clock is too fast. Its like a WR who drops passes because he thinks about the run after the catch prematurely?

And when he actually he has the puck, maybe his clock isn't running fast enough? He's like a QB who doesnt sense pocket pressure or holds on to the ball too long and then forces passes?

Sorry for so much football analogy.

All of that is happening for sure, but there's more. Compare his game right now with how he was playing last year when MacK got hurt. We know he is capable of dominating. He falls down a lot, thus the Bambi moniker, but still, he isn't even getting to the spot where he can fall down now. That's how bad it is.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

True the team efforts wasn’t there tonite, which is why you need your goalie to bail you out every now and then George done it last year, not once this year. The team effort has bailed him out on the other hand many of times

Yup. Would love if it Georgiev bailed us out of this game. The stars have absolutely bailed the team out more than Georgiev, which is why they are paid the big bucks. If Georgiev bailed us out like last year, we'd probably be even higher in the standings.

 

[henchman21]

Georgiev didn't win them the game, but he certainly didn't lose it either. But that's what he is. He's the 36th highest paid goalie for a reason. He's a game manager, not a 'steal a game' type goalie. Avs management prefer to spend that extra money on defense and forwards. So when the defensive game has mental lapses, its even that more apparent.

Tonight the Avs were just beat by a better team who showed up on time. Its been the Avs MO for years that they 'start late'. Against shitty teams like Ottawa its not a big deal, but against Cup contenders, you ain't winning.

He’s the 36th highest paid goalie because he was an unproven RFA when he signed that deal. Compared to others in that realm, he’s on the higher end. Along with that lower paid goalies are out performing him. Either he can be at least average… or the Avs need to find an average goalie.

If George rebounds with 3 good games in a row before having a below average to poor game… and do that consistently… the screaming about him will stop. Until he does that, things will just be touchy.

 

[chet1926]

If he doesn't "give a chance to win", he wouldn't literally be one of the highest total wins goalies in the league. He's been average this year, basically playing like his salary. Maybe overachieved last year or overworked this year. Would love him to play as well as he did last year.

We play Edmonton hockey at this point. We win despite the goalie. We have to score 5 to have a chance. Super unrealistic and absolutely ridiculous.

 

[henchman21]

We play Edmonton hockey at this point. We win despite the goalie. We have to score 5 to have a chance. Super unrealistic and absolutely ridiculous.

We play Edmonton hockey from the last couple years. Edmonton is just playing good hockey this year that had shit goaltending and the yips to start.

 

[the_fan]

Makar had a point. Who gives a shit about a loss?