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I don’t think Bednar attempting to keeping Georgie’s mental state/ego in a decent place has anything to do with his potential position on this team.
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Yeah but usually Bednar is somewhat honest and would say goaltending wasn’t good enough, or it needs to be better etc… after this Hawks game he said Georgiev was good. He said the 1st goal maybe he’d want back but after that he was good
Um, if they’re trying to trade him why in the world would they say bad things about him?
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Yeah but it’s not like the GMs don’t know Georgiev has been bad. I’m not sure if there is a desperate enough team out there that would trade for Georgiev right now
Absolutely true, I don't think anyone wants anything to do with the single worst goalie in the league. I just don't think the Avs are going to torpedo that nil value even further by publicly slagging him either. At this point maybe he gets waived but even then he'll have to regain his confidence in the AHL (unlikely but it's the only thing they can hope for).
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IMO it is all simply a mind game. George is the only goalie here with the ceiling needed to contend. Annunen has done well in his starts, but the likelihood of it holding up for the whole season just isn't high. Keeping George engaged until they can figure out something is simply a necessity.
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What's more likely, Juicy consistently being middle of the pack or Fourgiev consistently being above .900?
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I disagree that Georgiev is the only goalie that can make this team a contender. Goalie is the one position, where a player might go on a spectacular SC run on an otherwise mediocre NHL career.
That said, they will keep Georgiev around because they are hoping for him to get mentally fixed and I don't disagree with that. It doesn't make sense wasting assets to get rid of him, you can't get a surefire replacement on the market anyway, so might as well keep him around. As the #3 at this point, until Annunen or Kähkönen give a reason for the coaching staff to give Georgiev another shot.
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I mean on the roster. This team probably needs a guy who is ~.908-.912 guy AND can steal a few games. I don't think Annunen can hit that level as a whole, but really don't think he can steal games even if he could.
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Well, I think Kähkönen has a higher ceiling than Annunen. That's not exactly a hot take. I think Kähkönen can be good enough, if we get the rest of the roster going.
I dunno, a guy who’s a worse puck tracker than effing Grubauer is not a guy I really think can backstop a team missing a ton of players and experiencing regular defensive breakdowns.
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henchman21
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I think for short spurts, any of them can hold that level.... as we are looking at 40-50 games starting and then (hopefully) 25-28 games in the playoffs it is just hard to see for Kahkonen.
George is an absolute headcase and I don't think he has the consistency to be reliable, but what he does have is really high end athletic gifts and with that, he can absolutely steal games.
This is rock and a hard place though on both sides... the goalies who we have some certainty can play at that level are just not available until their teams lose hope for the playoffs. Any guys you acquire today who have that potential or shown it... are available because they are like George.
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Well, I disagree because Kähkönen has proved to be the better goaltender than Kähkönen on every level they've played so far.
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Not me looking for a tiny accent change on one of the names…
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Except Georgiev will never regain that level required. He's broke. By trying to keep him around and entertain this notion, are record is getting worse because I honestly believe a platoon of Khak and Juicy will yield more points for the team than any combination involving Georgiev.
He can't be used to start games. Full stop.
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It is certainly not trending in the right direction for George. He is bad more than he is good at this point. However he was eviscerated after game 1 round 1 vs the jets (and rightly so, I was also saying I thought he was done here). Lots of the same sort of things were being said then as now. He's mentally broken. He doesn't belong in this league. He's the absolute worst. And I think it was fair to be saying those things. But he did manage to turn it around in that series and play extremely well, out duelling a top goalie in helly.
So I won't ever say never with him. But as I said it's not moving in the right direction. I think he has it in him still. I think if he hasn't got himself a sports psychologist, or if the team haven't told him to get one, then they are kidding themselves. He is clearly in his own head and needs to figure it out.
So I won't ever say never with him. But as I said it's not moving in the right direction. I think he has it in him still. I think if he hasn't got himself a sports psychologist, or if the team haven't told him to get one, then they are kidding themselves. He is clearly in his own head and needs to figure it out.
Regardless if he turns it around, Georgiev is simply not good enough to backstop a team to a Cup. Even his resurgence in the playoffs was a bit of a mirage. He certainly rebounded from his horrid game 1, but the Avs completely ethered the Jets offense into submission the rest of the way. He was hardly even tested. And though he wasn’t horrid against Dallas the next round, he also wasn’t good enough.
Avs have bought themselves time with Annunen and (maybe) Kahkonen. Hopefully GMCM uses it wisely.
Avs have bought themselves time with Annunen and (maybe) Kahkonen. Hopefully GMCM uses it wisely.
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George was the worst goalie in round 2 and while not the reason the Avs lost to the Stars, a contributing reason.
The difference is that George has an ability that the other guys don't have. Until the Avs grab a guy with a similar ability to steal games, they'll keep giving George chances. I also don't think he's good enough, but he's the only one with that talent level.
The difference is that George has an ability that the other guys don't have. Until the Avs grab a guy with a similar ability to steal games, they'll keep giving George chances. I also don't think he's good enough, but he's the only one with that talent level.
