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Player Discussion Auston Matthews (Captain Edition)
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SprDaVE
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An injury prevents someone to be a captain?
Stephen
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You have to wonder what the actual injury is. Because the most dramatic collision he had was falling upper back first into the boards in the Detroit game then that McAvoy take down in the playoffs.
So really, what is the injury if it goes back as far as September, but maybe also April with a full offseason in between? If that’s the case the summer may have been wasted on getting right for this season.
The whole thing is all the more frustrating because the facts have been withheld.
I don't quite understand this whole thing. Why are people so angry that he is hurt? Athletes are injured every year in every sport.
It sucks for the Leafs that he is out but I don't get the outrage towards him
BallardEra
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I agree.
He clearly is trying to play through it and surgery looks like a last option, most likely after this season ends.
BertCorbeau
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I mean he tried to play through it earlier in December, clearly he wants to play. It was obvious how it was impacting him
So now he’s taking more time to get it right.
Doesn’t seem what he does makes anyone happy.
Whatever can get him into the best shape for the playoffs matters to me. The LTIR seems to make sense. I bet if they are eyeing this move closer to the TDL so they could load up. In the meantime try to get him to work through it. At least that shows the league that the Leafs aren’t trying to game the LTIR system as others have.
So now he’s taking more time to get it right.
Doesn’t seem what he does makes anyone happy.
Whatever can get him into the best shape for the playoffs matters to me. The LTIR seems to make sense. I bet if they are eyeing this move closer to the TDL so they could load up. In the meantime try to get him to work through it. At least that shows the league that the Leafs aren’t trying to game the LTIR system as others have.
Stephen
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Yeah that could be the case, but they've also said it's "not structural" whatever that means so I'm hoping it doesn't involve the spinal column. Sounds like herniated disc surgery would take 4-12 weeks. So that would actually put him into a Kucherov LTIR situation if he had surgery soon.
Dreakmur
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They often just say upper or lower body and a timeline if they know it. If a player injures their knee and they need surgery the procedure and timeline is pretty well defined. If it’s something like a back or concussion, the timeline is less well defined. They were criticized for mentioning a timeline last time he was out that turned out to be somewhat optimistic. I believe Matthews is making the call on his return and that will be when he feels he’s recovered sufficiently to play again.
Stephen
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For me, this is a PR issue, a player health issue and a LTIR issue.
The first step to untangling everything is transparency. Get the facts out, stop the rampant speculation and get everyone on side with a sense of closure and acceptance. Lay out what the conservative non surgical and surgical paths are with timelines attached, prioritize long term health and return to form and take it from there.
Order of priority is Matthews returns to full health and level of play long term. Second priority is cup contention this season. Third priority is getting back to regular season contribution. Fourth priority is 4 Nations, and you make decisions that sacrifice from least priority to highest priority.
Stephen
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I think there's frustration is the way the messaging has been managed more than the injury itself. Being Day to Day for all of November and the past 2 weeks just means every practice and game day you get the team making a "it's bad news again" comment about his health. I don't think people like vague bad news every day on a topic.
That seems fair. It would seem like it would eleviate some of the angst if they were a little more upfront
If surgery can fix it that would be good news. window still there next season (bigger). But, Hope his back isnt in old man territory. Those dont fix. Guessing TMz doesnt care for hockey. Theyd have it by now. Pay off the german medical assistant or something for what this condition is.
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WTFMAN99
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If he has surgery and is out for the year, they should consider trading a few players to get younger - Tanev Rielly Tavares come to mind.
BallardEra
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It’s quite possible that Matthews and his camp are avoiding surgery.
Evilhomer
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Only in Toronto. The guy is injured. It isn't his fault. I think what people should legitimately be angry about is the silly secrecy by the organization about the injury.
thewave
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Who is paying for this experiment? Insurance? MLSE or is Matthews eating it. If a player is not able to perform and is rejecting treatment. How does that work out?
To the kids out there who may make it to the NHL. This is why you take the 8 year deal.
Evilhomer
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Is that on his sacroiliac? I've heard it's like a rap-sack, backpack, wic-wic-whack, give me some slack jack (I wonder if anyone will know this reference?).
BallardEra
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Well I'm guessing him going to Germany was on him and the team was open to it. He isn't rejecting treatment at this point in time. It seems that surgery is the absolute last option and I'm sure both Matthews and the Leafs agree on that.
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Racer88
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Marshmallow soft. He has been hurt off and on so yea he is soft or fragile
