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Player Discussion Auston Matthews (Captain Edition)

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hamzarocks said:
5 pts in 8 games

He is playing like he needs to be bought out defensively

Offensively he is choking goals. Playmaking is nonexistent as always
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I'm more concerned about the defensive lapses than the offence, which I'm confident will come. As for playmaking, he's only really shown it when away from Marner.

ORRFForever said:
He was INVISIBLE tonight. Shame.
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I thought the opposite - he was horribly noticeable, particularly on three Blues' goals.
 
notDatsyuk said:
I'm more concerned about the defensive lapses than the offence, which I'm confident will come. As for playmaking, he's only really shown it when away from Marner.
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We should run different lines in that case

Though play making for Matthews even without 16 isny great.

On the PP he isnt able to find cross seam passes and get other players open/quality looks which is annoying.

Defensively he needs to communicate better with the d-men and not make as many high risk plays

Not sure what the optimal lines would br for us

Maybe

McMann - Matthews - Robertson
Knies - Domi - Tavares/Nylander
Nylander/Tavares - XXX - Marner

Trade for another center
 
BraveCanadian said:
I don’t like any of our forwards on the point.

Marner is the only one who is good there, but he still shouldn’t be because it makes him even more unlikely to shoot which is one of his biggest problems.

When defenders can cheat on Domi / Marner / Rielly etc and know that 99.9% of the time they will not shoot it really limits them offensively save on the PP. Same with Matthews shooting 99.9% of the time. Mix it up!
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I don't mind Nylander there. He has similar puck handling and passing skills, but also a dangerous shot and the speed to cover up defensively.
 
Antropovsky said:
The TSN broadcast, said goal 1 was on Marner. Marner goes too low and gives the easy shot to Broberg. Why did Marner go so low? BTW look at the effort by Tanev. Amazing.



Edit looks like goal 1 was on Marner, goal 2 and 3 was Matthews and goal 5 was Nylander.
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The initial mistake was by Marner, but Matty gets some blame for the first as he didn't clear him man out of the way, screened Woll, and didn't block the shot.

4th on Nylander, not 5th.
 
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notDatsyuk said:
The initial mistake was by Marner, but Matty gets some blame for the first as he didn't clear him man out of the way, screened Woll, and didn't block the shot.

4th on Nylander, not 5th.
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Buch screened Woll perfectly...Woll was fighting to see the puck the entire time. Matthews was between Buch and puck entire time.

That's the entire point of a clean point shot is for a screen goal.

TSN crew said it was Marners fault, and both broadcasts i saw praised Buch for his screen. None questioned Matthews.

Marner was the one leaf player who COMPLETELY left his coverage and gave the wide open uncontested shot from the point. He just needs to do what his teammates were doing, stick to keeping it simple and cut the individual fancy shi*. Tanev was doing just fine on Kyrou and who knows why Marner slowly drifted down to nowhere land.
 
Well his personal stats are bouncing back

7 in 9 now with 4 goals

Concerns with his effort, awareness and defensive positioning remain but.dude gets like 5-7 scoring looks still in a gamr and he is the type of scorer that can pop 50-60 goals the rest of the way in the reg season

Unlikely he gives us 13.25M player in teg season but we should get ~11M play from him
 
Antropovsky said:
Buch screened Woll perfectly...Woll was fighting to see the puck the entire time. Matthews was between Buch and puck entire time.

That's the entire point of a clean point shot is for a screen goal.

TSN crew said it was Marners fault, and both broadcasts i saw praised Buch for his screen. None questioned Matthews.

Marner was the one leaf player who COMPLETELY left his coverage and gave the wide open uncontested shot from the point. He just needs to do what his teammates were doing, stick to keeping it simple and cut the individual fancy shi*. Tanev was doing just fine on Kyrou and who knows why Marner slowly drifted down to nowhere land.
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If Matty was between Buch and the puck and Buch was screening, then a) Matty was screening and b) he should have tried to move Buch out of the way or c) tried to block the shot.

Yes, it was primarily Marner to blame, and as I said originally Matty isn't a defenceman, but he did not do a good job.
 
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notDatsyuk said:
If Matty was between Buch and the puck and Buch was screening, then a) Matty was screening and b) he should have tried to move Buch out of the way or c) tried to block the shot.

Yes, it was primarily Marner to blame, and as I said originally Matty isn't a defenceman, but he did not do a good job.
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Watch any leaf game and you see how almost impossible its been for Leaf defensemen to get shots through, especially clean looks. There is always a group of players in front of the net when teams are trying to get point shots. Wingers have the easiest defensive assignments on the ice...all Marner had to do was be in the lane...but he was 8 feet away, in nowhere land. If you are trying to get a point shot through, the entire point is to block the goalies view. Teams dont wany point shots with nobody in front of the net.
 
Antropovsky said:
Watch any leaf game and you see how almost impossible its been for Leaf defensemen to get shots through, especially clean looks. There is always a group of players in front of the net when teams are trying to get point shots. Wingers have the easiest defensive assignments on the ice...all Marner had to do was be in the lane...but he was 8 feet away, in nowhere land. If you are trying to get a point shot through, the entire point is to block the goalies view. Teams dont wany point shots with nobody in front of the net.
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First, I'm not trying to take anything away from Marner - his mistake created the mess.

Second, I'm not sure what you are arguing here. All I'm saying is that Matty didn't do a good job on his bit.
 
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hamzarocks said:
Well his personal stats are bouncing back

7 in 9 now with 4 goals

Concerns with his effort, awareness and defensive positioning remain but.dude gets like 5-7 scoring looks still in a gamr and he is the type of scorer that can pop 50-60 goals the rest of the way in the reg season

Unlikely he gives us 13.25M player in teg season but we should get ~11M play from him
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Nathan MacKinnon makes less than our glorious leader. Now there's a win-or-die warrior, recent Stanley Cup winner and League MVP.

We have a silly frat boy as captain.
 
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