News Article: Auston Matthews - August 1st., Contract Crickets

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nothing better than someone who can't handle others and chooses to ignore.

life can be difficult for some I guess.

It made me chuckle, ignore who you want, but anouncing it?

Dear Twitter,
you were mean to me and I'm quiting forver. I could do it without the announcment,but this way I have the final say hence victory is mine . Bye cruel cyber world


Btw ignore enough people you don't agree with and the rest is an echo chamber.
 
McDavid committed to the Oilers for 8(!) years when that team was going nowhere. They were a joke.

The Leafs made the playoffs every year of Matthews’ ELC and surrounded him with other young talent. They even signed one of the biggest free agents ever during his ELC. He still only committed for 5-years.

The 5-years could just be him wanting to maximize his career earnings but I can’t stand this talk about him not wanting to commit because he’s not “comfortable” with the plan. It’s been 7 years you know exactly what the Leafs are about and what the plan is. No matter who the GM is the goal is unchanged. They are chasing the Stanley Cup.
 
Maybe you missed the point?

The discussion was if Matthews leaves money on the table to fill out the team, but Paul decides it's all about the greenbacks in marner's pockets.

Matthews takes less to stay.
marner goes for everything, including the money Matthews left on the table to fill out the roster.
I cannot even begin to imagine what the hell Mitch is going to want on his next deal. There is absolutely no way you can have AM and MM on the same team because you are going to be paying them almost the same amount if Mitch get's his way. He had ZERO leverage last time and got what he wanted...imagine him being a UFA and it makes you cringe at the thought.
 
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Won't discuss it here Sypher, but I was told it by a guy in the know that something happened behind the scenes back then that soured Marners relationship with management and thereby created a confrontational negotiation when there didn't have to be one. Look at the timing of the signings

Not sure if you heard Freidmans comments about player exit interviews but it doesn't sound like there's a lot wrong that can be fixed and some pretty dark feelings

Ex NHL referee and erstwhile trouble maker Tim Peel tweeted last week or thereabouts, that the Leafs won't ever win with Matthews.

Lots of little negatives have popped up through the years, Ive hesrd enough to say they have a problem
Man...I have heard some stories about Paul that would make you pee your pants laughing at him for being a $$ hound. I also heard some stuff about AM that seem actually very plausible but like you...won't be mentioning them. There are some things in the background that are affecting this team more than the media will let on...
 
it was Lou Lamiorello dicking around his ELC with the bonus stuff. Word around those who knew the family is that they were not impressed. That and how Babcock treated him. I'm not sure if there was anything else involved but I know after a while Mitch told his dad to bud out of his business lol
I can say from what I have heard that it wasn't just what Lou did with the bonuses....Lou had to call his dad after they drafted him because he had a Marner93.com type of website trying to sell shit ...Lou said to stop it or he was being traded before even signing a contract. There is more to the money grabbing than what you heard about the stupid schedule A bonuses.
 
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Man...I have heard some stories about Paul that would make you pee your pants laughing at him for being a $$ hound. I also heard some stuff about AM that seem actually very plausible but like you...won't be mentioning them. There are some things in the background that are affecting this team more than the media will let on...
Even not being in the know on details if you look with objective eyes you see signs everywhere

I can say from what I have heard that it wasn't just what Lou did with the bonuses....Lou had to call his dad after they drafted him because he had a Marner93.com type of website trying to sell shit ...Lou said to stop it or he was being traded before even signing a contract. There is more to the money grabbing than what you heard about the stupid schedule A bonuses.
Lol
 
34 didn't leave a dime on the table ULF. I don't think anybody in or around the league thought he did. Some thought Dubas naivete was the problem, more thought that Matthews pulled off a heist. The only people thinking it was a good idea was NHLPA, and Matthews agent.

Paul? What you don't think Matthews Sr was sitting in too, pushing just as hard for that contract. Dubas pulled his pants down so fast and that was the only reason there wasn't any negative, because it was signed done and over within a couple of days in Feb.

Paul Marner should not have been trying to negotiate through Dreger, it was brain dead to say the least. And talk about a conflict of interest, Dreger creating his own story.

Dubas shares some of the blame by putting up the big stop sign when 16 asked for the 34 contract telling him to come to his senses. A little insulting to say the least when Mitch agreed to 8x9 in the winter and Dubas told him to hold off till summer.

The word duplicitous comes to mind
What did Dubas expect when he had just signed JT and the coach put them together...that MM was going to get LESS points than the year before when he was asking for $9M? It was just stupid on Dubas' part.
 
Under your scenario, Matthews has to be traded before July 1st.

Leafs have no power over Matthews come July 1st.
All the players have NMC now in a sense. Who is going to pay you a big return if they can't talk to him to see what he wants on his next deal and if he will sign in their city? So, basically AM can say "Trade me wherever you want but I am going to UFA if I don't like the deal or the team." What are you going to get for 1yr of AM or Willy if that is the case when shopping them?

That's why Treliving did a pretty bang up job in getting what he got from FLA for Chucky. His hands were tied because he could only get max return if he sent him to a team that he wanted to go to.
 
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All the players have NMC now in a sense. Who is going to pay you a big return if they can't talk to him to see what he wants on his next deal and if he will sign in their city? So, basically AM can say "Trade me wherever you want but I am going to UFA if I don't like the deal or the team." What are you going to get for 1yr of AM or Willy if that is the case when shopping them?

That's why Treliving did a pretty bang up job in getting what he got from FLA for Chucky. His hands were tied because he could only get max return if he sent him to a team that he wanted to go to.
ding ding ding

Matthews could also decide to announce he "may" require surgery on the bad wrist if he feels there's a trade brewing.
 
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What did Dubas expect when he had just signed JT and the coach put them together...that MM was going to get LESS points than the year before when he was asking for $9M? It was just stupid on Dubas' part.
Dubas has no foresight, like none. We could have had Mitch on a drasaitl contract but dubas gonna dubas

ding ding ding

Matthews could also decide to announce he "may" require surgery on the bad wrist if he feels there's a trade brewing.
Another factor that makes an AM trade difficult is the acquiring team is on the hook for a 8 mil bonus on July 1. Yes he has a small salary but not all nhl teams give out 8 million cash bonus on July 1
 
everyone thinking they can't sign matthews until a new GM is hired

they can do whatever they want. Shanahan is there. And the rest of the management team.

They can easily get him signed without any GM.

No doubt they've already got the wheels rolling on this already. Not a doubt.

Conversations are already taking place. its common sense.


The new GM will simply hand over the proposal to matthews and his agent. the proposal will have already been drafted by Shanahan and his guys.

it's not like Shanny is there crapping his pants saying oh no, I better get a guy hired soon as possible so this new/unproven GM guy can take care of the most important Leaf signing in history...lol


so no rush in getting a new GM hired, he's not going to have much if any input on this
 
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ding ding ding

Matthews could also decide to announce he "may" require surgery on the bad wrist if he feels there's a trade brewing.

If he doesn’t want to be here. Why would he block a trade somewhere he wants to go?

How long do ufa get to be comfortable with a plan?
Minutes? Hours?

He said it was important to him to get a contract done this summer.

If he wants to be in LA…. Why would he want to come back face this disaster all year. Become a villain in the biggest hockey market and lose a potential 8th year.

If he wants to leave…. Leave now.
 
If he doesn’t want to be here. Why would he block a trade somewhere he wants to go?

How long do ufa get to be comfortable with a plan?
Minutes? Hours?

He said it was important to him to get a contract done this summer.

If he wants to be in LA…. Why would he want to come back face this disaster all year. Become a villain in the biggest hockey market and lose a potential 8th year.

If he wants to leave…. Leave now.
He wouldn't if it was somewhere he wanted to go.

The scenario I was commenting on with @usernamezrhardtodo was if the Leafs tried to trade him before July 1st.

In this scenario, AM's value is significantly lowered as if he doesn't like the destination, he can let it be known that he's not signing an extension, his $7M signing bonus is due July 1 and, at an extreme, let it be known that he "may" need wrist surgery.

He is basically a UFA right now
 
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He wouldn't if it was somewhere he wanted to go.

The scenario I was commenting on with @usernamezrhardtodo was if the Leafs tried to trade him before July 1st.

In this scenario, AM's value is significantly lowered as if he doesn't like the destination he can let it be known that he's not signing an extension, his $7M signing bonus is due July 1 and, at an extreme, let it be known that he "may" need wrist surgery.

He is basically a UFA right now

Pretty sure if he needed wrist surgery that he would have had it by now. Only other reason I can see for a delay in that is if they want to rest it first and see if that works.

Is there even any proof about wrist issues or is this just purely speculation?
 
Pretty sure if he needed wrist surgery that he would have had it by now. Only other reason I can see for a delay in that is if they want to rest it first and see if that works.

Is there even any proof about wrist issues or is this just purely speculation?

I meant it as a possible "threat" if the Leafs tried to trade him somewhere undesirable before July 1.

i.e. If he gets a sniff of a trade, he may leak that he's considering surgery.
 
Pretty sure if he needed wrist surgery that he would have had it by now. Only other reason I can see for a delay in that is if they want to rest it first and see if that works.

Is there even any proof about wrist issues or is this just purely speculation?
The last time they let it rest all summer, he still needed surgery right before the season started. So it seems whatever his issue with the wrist is...it's not a simple fix by resting it.
 
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1. When Auston Matthews does not re-sign with the Toronto Maple Leafs on July 1 and triggers his full no-move clause, we anticipate the franchise’s fan base to explode into that hilarious Michael Scott gif.

Oh, my God, it’s happening! Everybody, stay calm!

Because, to be clear: Matthews will not be renewing his vows to his Canadian team on Canada Day.

Now, before the diehards go throwing themselves in front of Lakeshore traffic, that certainly does not mean the 2022 Hart Trophy winner won’t eventually be extended for what we imagine will be a four- or five-year pact at a Nathan MacKinnon–eclipsing AAV. An agreement that should set the sniper up for a third monster pay day in his early 30s, under an elevated salary cap.

We’ll take Matthews at his word.

“Yeah, of course. My intention is to be here,” Matthews said upon season’s end. "I think I've (reiterated) that before, how much I enjoy playing here and what it means to me, the organization, my teammates and how much I just enjoy being here.

“I think it’s important, and it will all work itself out in due time.”

Due time.


There is no rush on the part of the player or his agent, Judd Moldaver.

And why would there be?

Yes, Matthews (and his fellow Core Four members) received a reassuring phone call from Brendan Shanahan after the president fired well-liked GM Kyle Dubas on May 19.

But, with just five weeks until his no-movement clause kicks in, the superstar has roughly about as much knowledge as you. He has no clue who will be negotiating his next contract, who will be coaching him, who will be on his line, or who will be on the roster.

“My belief in our core players and the guys that have been here has never wavered,” said Matthews, dressed in a Leafs cap and hoodie. “And I still believe in that.”

No chance he recommits without knowing the grand plan. There are too many unknowns here, and the July 1 “deadline” in this case only applies to management, not the player.

Further, what urgency would Matthews have to sign until he sees the new vision in action for at least a few games? What does life under GM Y and Coach X feel like? Are the Maple Leafs winning in October and November?

Sure, the lack of certainty will make for nervous fans and repetitive media questions if/when talks drag past summer.

That doesn’t mean the sky is falling, though.


Toronto’s last major impending UFA, Morgan Rielly, reupped amicably on Oct. 29.

Moldaver’s last major impending free agents, Zach Werenski and Roman Josi, reupped on July 29 and Oct. 29 of their contract years.

Last season’s highest-profile UFAs-to-be, MacKinnon and David Pastrnak, signed on Sept. 20 and March 2, respectively.
 
If he's traded prior to July 1, his new team is on the hook for his signing bonus.
No team will offer much in a trade, without him agreeing to an extension and if it's true he won't talk contract until after July 1st, we're f***ed.

All we can do is hope for the best but expect the worst.
 
If he doesn’t commit to sign before Canada day we should deal him. Otherwise he will take us to the cleaners.
No one player is bigger than the team.
 
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1. When Auston Matthews does not re-sign with the Toronto Maple Leafs on July 1 and triggers his full no-move clause, we anticipate the franchise’s fan base to explode into that hilarious Michael Scott gif.

Oh, my God, it’s happening! Everybody, stay calm!

Because, to be clear: Matthews will not be renewing his vows to his Canadian team on Canada Day.

Now, before the diehards go throwing themselves in front of Lakeshore traffic, that certainly does not mean the 2022 Hart Trophy winner won’t eventually be extended for what we imagine will be a four- or five-year pact at a Nathan MacKinnon–eclipsing AAV. An agreement that should set the sniper up for a third monster pay day in his early 30s, under an elevated salary cap.

We’ll take Matthews at his word.

“Yeah, of course. My intention is to be here,” Matthews said upon season’s end. "I think I've (reiterated) that before, how much I enjoy playing here and what it means to me, the organization, my teammates and how much I just enjoy being here.

“I think it’s important, and it will all work itself out in due time.”

Due time.


There is no rush on the part of the player or his agent, Judd Moldaver.

And why would there be?

Yes, Matthews (and his fellow Core Four members) received a reassuring phone call from Brendan Shanahan after the president fired well-liked GM Kyle Dubas on May 19.

But, with just five weeks until his no-movement clause kicks in, the superstar has roughly about as much knowledge as you. He has no clue who will be negotiating his next contract, who will be coaching him, who will be on his line, or who will be on the roster.

“My belief in our core players and the guys that have been here has never wavered,” said Matthews, dressed in a Leafs cap and hoodie. “And I still believe in that.”

No chance he recommits without knowing the grand plan. There are too many unknowns here, and the July 1 “deadline” in this case only applies to management, not the player.

Further, what urgency would Matthews have to sign until he sees the new vision in action for at least a few games? What does life under GM Y and Coach X feel like? Are the Maple Leafs winning in October and November?

Sure, the lack of certainty will make for nervous fans and repetitive media questions if/when talks drag past summer.

That doesn’t mean the sky is falling, though.


Toronto’s last major impending UFA, Morgan Rielly, reupped amicably on Oct. 29.

Moldaver’s last major impending free agents, Zach Werenski and Roman Josi, reupped on July 29 and Oct. 29 of their contract years.

Last season’s highest-profile UFAs-to-be, MacKinnon and David Pastrnak, signed on Sept. 20 and March 2, respectively.
I hate the part of me that keeps seeing.. yeah i like it and want to stay but what about this and this and that.. and i want this

I might not be that .. but it creeps in
 

1. When Auston Matthews does not re-sign with the Toronto Maple Leafs on July 1 and triggers his full no-move clause, we anticipate the franchise’s fan base to explode into that hilarious Michael Scott gif.

Oh, my God, it’s happening! Everybody, stay calm!

Because, to be clear: Matthews will not be renewing his vows to his Canadian team on Canada Day.

Now, before the diehards go throwing themselves in front of Lakeshore traffic, that certainly does not mean the 2022 Hart Trophy winner won’t eventually be extended for what we imagine will be a four- or five-year pact at a Nathan MacKinnon–eclipsing AAV. An agreement that should set the sniper up for a third monster pay day in his early 30s, under an elevated salary cap.

We’ll take Matthews at his word.

“Yeah, of course. My intention is to be here,” Matthews said upon season’s end. "I think I've (reiterated) that before, how much I enjoy playing here and what it means to me, the organization, my teammates and how much I just enjoy being here.

“I think it’s important, and it will all work itself out in due time.”

Due time.


There is no rush on the part of the player or his agent, Judd Moldaver.

And why would there be?

Yes, Matthews (and his fellow Core Four members) received a reassuring phone call from Brendan Shanahan after the president fired well-liked GM Kyle Dubas on May 19.

But, with just five weeks until his no-movement clause kicks in, the superstar has roughly about as much knowledge as you. He has no clue who will be negotiating his next contract, who will be coaching him, who will be on his line, or who will be on the roster.

“My belief in our core players and the guys that have been here has never wavered,” said Matthews, dressed in a Leafs cap and hoodie. “And I still believe in that.”

No chance he recommits without knowing the grand plan. There are too many unknowns here, and the July 1 “deadline” in this case only applies to management, not the player.

Further, what urgency would Matthews have to sign until he sees the new vision in action for at least a few games? What does life under GM Y and Coach X feel like? Are the Maple Leafs winning in October and November?

Sure, the lack of certainty will make for nervous fans and repetitive media questions if/when talks drag past summer.

That doesn’t mean the sky is falling, though.


Toronto’s last major impending UFA, Morgan Rielly, reupped amicably on Oct. 29.

Moldaver’s last major impending free agents, Zach Werenski and Roman Josi, reupped on July 29 and Oct. 29 of their contract years.

Last season’s highest-profile UFAs-to-be, MacKinnon and David Pastrnak, signed on Sept. 20 and March 2, respectively.
I believe we are stuck with him no matter what you think of him.
I personally don't want any player dictating who coaches the team or how we play or who we keep.
He hasn't done shit in the playoffs to warrant these privileges.
He won the rocket last year wasn't Nylander and marner were by far better in the regular season. People were talking more about his defensive game than his electrifying offense and shot.

Either way this is going to be a bad contract that won't bring us a cup.
 
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I think what people need to keep in mind to try and keep some sanity is that in theory players dont get paid for playoffs.. so in that theory they negotiate for regular season play

It doesnt work like that.. but.. keep repeating it.. it helps a bit
 
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