thewave
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Didn't someone say he is going to give them a take it or leave it price? Who cares, when you lose that initial negotiation and contract everything else is going to be difficult.
News Article: Auston Matthews - August 1st., Contract Crickets
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Didn't someone say he is going to give them a take it or leave it price? Who cares, when you lose that initial negotiation and contract everything else is going to be difficult.
It won’t be a gentleman’s agreement, it will be a predated contract.
I think he will sign at the end bc of the 8th year and being a Leafs-spotlights and all.
But I could be wrong.
Even if the cap goes up to 90 mil in a couple seasons 15% of that is 13.5 mil. AM would be getting the cap percentage that other superstars have gotten in the past and he'd be the highest paid player by a significant amount. I don't see how 13.5 x 8 isn't fair, that would be my take it or leave it offer.
If AM has the gall to ask for 15 mil that's effing ridiculous and the Leafs would be monumentally stupid to even consider that. It would be the same shit all over again because it would have a domino effect on what the other core players ask for.
If AM has the gall to ask for 15 mil that's effing ridiculous and the Leafs would be monumentally stupid to even consider that. It would be the same shit all over again because it would have a domino effect on what the other core players ask for.
To help his team….. if he thinks he is getting a fair deal, let the team know. Why let the team twist? If he wants more let the team know he will be testing the open market. Seems like the ethical thing to do.
If you are Matthews and there is all this uncertainty in the organization, do you still want to stay?
He is not staying because of the crest, it means a lot to the fans, certainly not as much to him.
The team, the chance to win, the city, the organization... there are lots of things to like, but does he still like them if he knows major changes are coming but doesn't know exactly what?
Shanahan is an idiot.
I didn't think it'd get to Tavares 2.0, and I still don't, but I'm a lot more worried.
He is not staying because of the crest, it means a lot to the fans, certainly not as much to him.
The team, the chance to win, the city, the organization... there are lots of things to like, but does he still like them if he knows major changes are coming but doesn't know exactly what?
Shanahan is an idiot.
I didn't think it'd get to Tavares 2.0, and I still don't, but I'm a lot more worried.
TheDoldrums
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Its not stupid at all, recruiting and selling the program is important. Players buy into leadership they believe in.
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Why would he help the team? Is there any indication he'll do that? Dubas had a contract ready to go and decided he'd wait for a bigger pay day. Do you think the culture he created is any different?
It's poetic that Dubas turned out to be exactly what we hate about the core. A greedy mercenary with no success to warrant their pay.
Exactly. You got it right on.
IMO, Matthews is 100% gone. Now with his boy Dubas out the door there is no chance. Call me crazy, but I think there is a very very strong chance he lands in Miami with his best friend Tkachuk.
This team is about to get blown up. Nylander is gone, ROR, Bunting….all out. Just watch! Lottery team 2023-2024 season.
WTFMAN99
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I have never heard of a player wanting to change teams because of a GM, so that narrative seems extremely stupid to me.
Interim GM or new GM will tell Matthews we're going to try to stay competitive every single year you're here, what kind of $$ / term are you thinking?
If it's too high, you try to negotiate, if you fail, you trade him at the draft and turn the page.
Matthews has come up short in the playoffs more often than not, I don't mind starting over and 8 years on him with wrist / hand problems he's had to date? Could be a disaster.
Interim GM or new GM will tell Matthews we're going to try to stay competitive every single year you're here, what kind of $$ / term are you thinking?
If it's too high, you try to negotiate, if you fail, you trade him at the draft and turn the page.
Matthews has come up short in the playoffs more often than not, I don't mind starting over and 8 years on him with wrist / hand problems he's had to date? Could be a disaster.
I think we are going to see the exact situation that happened in Calgary last summer with Matthew Tkachuk, and Johnny Gaudreau.
shanahan will attempt to get Matthews and Nylander resigned, but will be informed by them that they are not staying. Kawhi Leonard did the same thing to Toronto after winning a world championship. These guys are not Canadians, they are from the south.
Freidman just said he's unlikely to sign an extension by July.
If that's the case, see ya.
If that's the case, see ya.
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Yup. I was going to post the same thing.
Either sign by July 1st or trade him to the highest bidder.
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He can't sign one until July 1st can he? I guess Friedman means he's unlikely to agree to one beforehand?
I said the same thing.
It's possible the players (Matthews, Marner, maybe Nylander?) are redeemable, but it probably doesn't happen by July 1.
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I was also thinking that perhaps Dubas' exit itself is the reality check the Big 4 really need. Tavares is a lost cause, so it's really just the Big 3 who are capable of elevating. But if you're ever going to wake up maybe this is your moment.
But generally, it's not often that a GM exits a team and all the star players run for the exits. That's not typical behavior. But you never know.
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If they can’t get a deal done by July 1st you trade Matthews. If he’s not willing to sign now I think he won’t be coming back. You can’t risk it with an asset as valuable as Matthews.
If they are looking for a guy who is not afraid and makes big decisions
And Matthews isn’t going to sign (according to Friedman) he may get traded.
As long as they don’t lose hun for nothjng
And Matthews isn’t going to sign (according to Friedman) he may get traded.
As long as they don’t lose hun for nothjng
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He doesn’t even know who the GM or the coach is going to be . The assets gained trading him in off-season or in season aren’t going to change much.
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If you weren’t waking up for the guy who publicly stated every year he was putting his job on the line for you, you aren’t waking up for the next guy.
Now they will just try to take even more from the next GM knowing he is in a very difficult position to get rid of them when he just got here. The narrative from upper management could be make these guys win in the playoffs. Good luck.
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Not surprised that Matthews potentially not signing before July 1st comes after Dubas news. Dubas was Matthews’ golden goose in terms of contract ask & it doesn’t hurt they have the same agency. His agent now knows that contract negotiations will get tough which he might not want any part of. Hate to admit it but Burke might have been right. As fans we should probably get prepared for a Matthews trade. Cannot get past July 1st without a contract under any circumstances.
Penguins to ask for permission to talk to former Maple Leafs GM Kyle Dubas
The Penguins need to hire a new general manager and president of hockey operations after firing Ron Hextall and Brian Burke after missing out on the playoffs.
When it comes to what the Leafs want in their next general manager, Friedman said it's someone who isn't shy about making the tough calls.
"They are looking for a GM with some bite, a GM who won't be afraid to make decisions," Friedman explained. "There are some big decisions to make that they have coming up. It doesn't appear likely that Auston Matthews will sign by July 1, that's not their only concern but it's one of their biggest things that they will have to navigate."
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