News Article: Auston Matthews - August 1st., Contract Crickets

[pcruz]

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Auston Matthews is at his offseason base too, but this is his 7,500-square-foot home at the foot of Camelback Mountain in Arizona.

How Auston Matthews Spent $63 MILLION​

This is so incredibly creepy.

Why are people so emotionally invested in a kid that they track down where he lives and how much money he spent on the house....

Jesus

 

[Stephen]

Ok but if you’re just min-maxing for his one-way production then we should be sticking him and Marner at the opponents blueline all game and telling the defense to get them the puck at all costs even if we’re getting scored on twice as often in the process. If the puck gets turned over in the offensive zone, they are forbidden from doing anything that could waste their energy other than getting onside for their next breakaway attempt.

On top of that we should be playing our fourth line 15 minutes a night against the opponents top line so we can free up more minutes for the top line to cherry pick against bad units on the other team.

I’m just not sure I see what turning our players into Florida era Bure does for our odds of winning, it seems like it’s more relevant for winning online arguments about how fairly paid they are and where nerds in their parents basements rank them on their lists.

Well, over the past 2 years I think Edmonton has done a better job surrounding McDrai with a better supporting cast and I think a lot has to do with McDrai clicking dependably at a very high offensive rate. Hyman, Kane and Ekholm are big deliberate medium term pieces that seem to fit a coherent play style.

With our guys, I feel like we're fitting odds and ends and trying to build out a lower even forward group and then counter balanced with a cheap blueline with higher risk tendencies. For example, we have that tendency to want those generic low offensive reward types like ZAR, Aube-Kubel, Nash, Blackwell, Acciari, Lafferty, King Kerfoot with two way versatile nothing. But on the other hand we have green lights on guys like Holl to roam the full 200 feet, carry the puck, join the rush, etc. It feels like a complex slider tuning to compensate for something. The balance feels off and the offense always seems to sputter out.

My feeling is if we get the top 2 lines clicking at a higher rate at full throttle, they can always scale it back. When they play their more two way game it feels like they can't crank it back up.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

This is so incredibly creepy.

Why are people so emotionally invested in a kid that they track down where he lives and how much money he spent on the house....

Jesus

Yeah I can't stand Matthews but I kind of agree. I don't care what specifically he does with his money.

 

[andora]

The thing I've been most disappointed in the progression of the Matthews, Marner, Nylander Leafs over the past 3 seasons is they never hit that pre-championship, full throttle level you saw out of Colorado in 2020, 2021 and 2022. That team looked like they were playing through the end boards, wanted to run up the score and always pushing the pace. I see Edmonton trying to hit those marks. I saw Florida do that in 2022 but miss their championship target, then regain it in 2023 on their finals run.

This team has just been too mid tempo, one too many plays, too many regroups, too much east west, always playing at a comfortable pace.

Well, over the past 2 years I think Edmonton has done a better job surrounding McDrai with a better supporting cast and I think a lot has to do with McDrai clicking dependably at a very high offensive rate. Hyman, Kane and Ekholm are big deliberate medium term pieces that seem to fit a coherent play style.

With our guys, I feel like we're fitting odds and ends and trying to build out a lower even forward group and then counter balanced with a cheap blueline with higher risk tendencies. For example, we have that tendency to want those generic low offensive reward types like ZAR, Aube-Kubel, Nash, Blackwell, Acciari, Lafferty, King Kerfoot with two way versatile nothing. But on the other hand we have green lights on guys like Holl to roam the full 200 feet, carry the puck, join the rush, etc. It feels like a complex slider tuning to compensate for something. The balance feels off and the offense always seems to sputter out.

My feeling is if we get the top 2 lines clicking at a higher rate at full throttle, they can always scale it back. When they play their more two way game it feels like they can't crank it back up.

Nailed it

 

[Martin Skoula]

Well, over the past 2 years I think Edmonton has done a better job surrounding McDrai with a better supporting cast and I think a lot has to do with McDrai clicking dependably at a very high offensive rate. Hyman, Kane and Ekholm are big deliberate medium term pieces that seem to fit a coherent play style.

With our guys, I feel like we're fitting odds and ends and trying to build out a lower even forward group and then counter balanced with a cheap blueline with higher risk tendencies. For example, we have that tendency to want those generic low offensive reward types like ZAR, Aube-Kubel, Nash, Blackwell, Acciari, Lafferty, King Kerfoot with two way versatile nothing. But on the other hand we have green lights on guys like Holl to roam the full 200 feet, carry the puck, join the rush, etc. It feels like a complex slider tuning to compensate for something. The balance feels off and the offense always seems to sputter out.

My feeling is if we get the top 2 lines clicking at a higher rate at full throttle, they can always scale it back. When they play their more two way game it feels like they can't crank it back up.

Ok I see your point now. Although will disagree on the Oilers secondary pieces being coherent, they balance out McDrai a bit but similar to your point about our slider-mixing I think they’d do better going the Colorado route and going all-in on speed and intensity with a Karlsson on the back-end (instead of Nurse, they need an Ekholm type to babysit) and some prime Grabner/Hagelin/Nuke type wingers down the lineup to dominate both special teams and secondary matchups.

Without Matthews being automatic from the slot, we lack elite shooting threats on the top line and Tavares-Nylander flat out don’t work together. Imo that’s the reason they can’t crank it up consistently more than the defensive commitment, we had a window where they were elite on creating offense off the backcheck and forcing turnovers and that could have been a viable identity that we inexplicably pivoted away from in favor of whatever this safer game we play is now.

 

[Stephen]

Ok I see your point now. Although will disagree on the Oilers secondary pieces being coherent, they balance out McDrai a bit but similar to your point about our slider-mixing I think they’d do better going the Colorado route and going all-in on speed and intensity with a Karlsson on the back-end (instead of Nurse, they need an Ekholm type to babysit) and some prime Grabner/Hagelin/Nuke type wingers down the lineup to dominate both special teams and secondary matchups.

Without Matthews being automatic from the slot, we lack elite shooting threats on the top line and Tavares-Nylander flat out don’t work together. Imo that’s the reason they can’t crank it up consistently more than the defensive commitment, we had a window where they were elite on creating offense off the backcheck and forcing turnovers and that could have been a viable identity that we inexplicably pivoted away from in favor of whatever this safer game we play is now.

I’m hoping to see an uptick on PP efficiency with Klingberg presenting as a better shot arsenal from the point. If he can be the Carlson to Matthews Ovechkin it’s a look we’ve never really had. Barrie didn’t work that well. Klingberg is also a nimble line walking puck distributor with wingspan. We’ll see.

 

[JKG33]

Well, over the past 2 years I think Edmonton has done a better job surrounding McDrai with a better supporting cast and I think a lot has to do with McDrai clicking dependably at a very high offensive rate. Hyman, Kane and Ekholm are big deliberate medium term pieces that seem to fit a coherent play style.

With our guys, I feel like we're fitting odds and ends and trying to build out a lower even forward group and then counter balanced with a cheap blueline with higher risk tendencies. For example, we have that tendency to want those generic low offensive reward types like ZAR, Aube-Kubel, Nash, Blackwell, Acciari, Lafferty, King Kerfoot with two way versatile nothing. But on the other hand we have green lights on guys like Holl to roam the full 200 feet, carry the puck, join the rush, etc. It feels like a complex slider tuning to compensate for something. The balance feels off and the offense always seems to sputter out.

My feeling is if we get the top 2 lines clicking at a higher rate at full throttle, they can always scale it back. When they play their more two way game it feels like they can't crank it back up.

I kind of disagree with you here. I'd take Tavares and Nylander over Kane and RNH. Their defence was atrocious before Ekholm, and is still not great with him. And their goaltending over the last few playoffs (Smith and then Skinner) has been arguably worse than the Leafs (Andersen, Campbell, Samsonov). The bottom 6 I'll give you, it's largely forgettable trash in blue and orange vs forgettable trash in blue and white.

To me the Oilers duo has done a lot more with a lot less, even if they are absolute defensive liabilities. They found a way to even hang with Vegas which surprised me. As @Martin Skoula said, their PP is shit your pants level scary. When the Kings started taking penalties this year I knew deep down it was over since Quick wasn't there to bail them out this time around.

To circle back to Matthews, that's what's really missing is special teams performance. For a group of highly paid offensive superstars, the idea of taking a penalty against the Leafs should strike the fear of God into opponents like it does vs Edmonton.

Excuse me now while I go wash myself off with some heavy duty soap for saying good things about the Oilers

 

[JKG33]

I’m hoping to see an uptick on PP efficiency with Klingberg presenting as a better shot arsenal from the point. If he can be the Carlson to Matthews Ovechkin it’s a look we’ve never really had. Barrie didn’t work that well. Klingberg is also a nimble line walking puck distributor with wingspan. We’ll see.

As excited as I am to see a different look from the point on the PP, I'm equally just as scared of what this defence will look like. McCabe and Brodie are the only real defensive specialists, and Brodie ain't what he used to be. Combine that into a group of Rielly, Klingberg, Liljgren who are more offensive oriented, and the corpse of Giordano rotating in with Timmons... yikes.

I know he was only here for a few months, but the loss of Schenn is really going to hurt. Him and Rielly were perfect together (who predicted that one?) and were each arguably the best partner the others ever had.

 

[JKG33]

The thing I've been most disappointed in the progression of the Matthews, Marner, Nylander Leafs over the past 3 seasons is they never hit that pre-championship, full throttle level you saw out of Colorado in 2020, 2021 and 2022. That team looked like they were playing through the end boards, wanted to run up the score and always pushing the pace. I see Edmonton trying to hit those marks. I saw Florida do that in 2022 but miss their championship target, then regain it in 2023 on their finals run.

This team has just been too mid tempo, one too many plays, too many regroups, too much east west, always playing at a comfortable pace.

This is what I've been worried about basically since their 2nd playoffs together. The first one vs Washington ok sure they're all rookies. But after that it's been glaringly obvious they aren't just missing that killer instinct, but the give-a-shit meter is completely broken.

A large part of that is on the previous management. From firing the coach that was too mean and instilling... whatever you wanna call Keefe, to the choices of veterans brought in. Tavares, Marleau, Thornton, Foligno, Spezza, Giordano... I know they're all mostly class acts and good ol' canadian boys and Yada Yada Yada, but exactly none of them have gotten it done in the playoffs. You couldn't pick a less impressive group of leaders if you tried, and most of these guys were in place when the entitled 3 were still somewhat young and impressionable.

The only champion brought in before this past deadline was Muzzin. A great d-man for sure, but he never appeared to be a leader on the Kings and was #3-4 on the depth chart during the cup wins. By the time ROR and Schenn were brought in it was too little too late, the entitled 3 became 4 and they weren't changing their ways after being coddled their entire NHL careers.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

If Matthews really wanted to be a leader he would have signed already.

He would have made a statement. He would have taken a long term deal at reasonable AAV. He would have shown that winning was more important than making bank.

Once upon a time it meant something to wear the blue leaf.

They may as well just change it to green now. The players have gone from one sense of entitlement to another. These guys demanded, and received, millions of dollars on the expectations they would contend.

Years later they've won a single round.

Good Lord is this ever an expensive group of chokers. The wealthy entitled. Whose only goal is to make as much money as possible for themselves.

They expect my kids to look up to them, to hang their posters on the wall, but I'm not convinced these guys are such good role models.

With Matthews the leader in that regard.

 

[Niagara Bill]

This is so incredibly creepy.

Why are people so emotionally invested in a kid that they track down where he lives and how much money he spent on the house....

Jesus

Creepy. You see pictures of Lebrons house, Kyries pad, Josh Allen's new house, etc etc.
AM wants to be top paid guy, then hide. I personally don't care about his house, or Mitchys cottage. I am shocked be dont have Instagram selfies from his front lawn. What I care about is what is he doing to improve his wrist.

 

[Nineteen67]

He spent all his money on a house?

No, but he could have, had he bought the house in that video.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Other team’s stars are giving their teams 8 years, but not Matthews. Even McDavid gave 8 years to Edmonton at a very fair price. Matthews just wants to set financial records. He is nothing special. Big deal, he score 60. The next season 2 guys scored more, who cares?

 

[Sypher04]

Largely, minus the last stretch post 2023 deadline, this team has acquired physical players only to watch them slowly become not physical after joining the team. I know people harp on this aspect of the games of multiple of your core guys, but I’m convinced based on what I said above that this is a culture issue. I would hope, as Treliving indicated in his first presser, that finishing checks and no fly bys are going to be staples of how his team plays. And I’m hopeful that directive will make it down to the team in a meaningful way. Our guys are not incapable of playing this game, though I definitely think they could use a couple more guys to help balance them out.

 

[egd27]

That can’t be right

it's not


it's a clickbait title.......the house is apparently $3.5M

 

[Metroid]

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Auston Matthews is at his offseason base too, but this is his 7,500-square-foot home at the foot of Camelback Mountain in Arizona.

How Auston Matthews Spent $63 MILLION​

it's not


it's a clickbait title.......the house is apparently $3.5M

Who would have thought such a cringe YouTube video wasn't accurate lol

 

[ACC1224]

Other team’s stars are giving their teams 8 years, but not Matthews. Even McDavid gave 8 years to Edmonton at a very fair price. Matthews just wants to set financial records. He is nothing special. Big deal, he score 60. The next season 2 guys scored more, who cares?

Didn't he want 8 years the first time around and Dubas negotiated his way out of it?

 

[Hellcat]

This is so incredibly creepy.

Why are people so emotionally invested in a kid that they track down where he lives and how much money he spent on the house....

Jesus

... because societal norms don't mean a damn thing anymore, courtesy, privacy, politeness, manners, dignity don't mean a damn thing any more as long as it fulfills your own selfish needs and wants. End of the day we are no longer a society of common beliefs. The social decay I've witnessed in my life time is shocking.

Never should any hockey fan ever need to know about the goings on of any player outside of the 200ft sheet of ice. Some people are just simply creeps.

I believe so strongly in the privacy of a player I didn't even click on your link.

 

[Hellcat]

If Matthews really wanted to be a leader he would have signed already.

He would have made a statement. He would have taken a long term deal at reasonable AAV. He would have shown that winning was more important than making bank.

Once upon a time it meant something to wear the blue leaf.

They may as well just change it to green now. The players have gone from one sense of entitlement to another. These guys demanded, and received, millions of dollars on the expectations they would contend.

Years later they've won a single round.

Good Lord is this ever an expensive group of chokers. The wealthy entitled. Whose only goal is to make as much money as possible for themselves.

They expect my kids to look up to them, to hang their posters on the wall, but I'm not convinced these guys are such good role models.

With Matthews the leader in that regard.

Maybe he does not want to be a leader, heavy is the head that wears the crown.

 

[Rob Brown]

If Matthews really wanted to be a leader he would have signed already.

He would have made a statement. He would have taken a long term deal at reasonable AAV. He would have shown that winning was more important than making bank.

Once upon a time it meant something to wear the blue leaf.

They may as well just change it to green now. The players have gone from one sense of entitlement to another. These guys demanded, and received, millions of dollars on the expectations they would contend.

Years later they've won a single round.

Good Lord is this ever an expensive group of chokers. The wealthy entitled. Whose only goal is to make as much money as possible for themselves.

They expect my kids to look up to them, to hang their posters on the wall, but I'm not convinced these guys are such good role models.

With Matthews the leader in that regard.

The problem now is that even if he did want to sign for 8 years and give the team a bit of a deal, it has to be for more than he is currently making, because how can he take less or even the same? So while we think he should take the same or a slight raise at like $12M, he probably thinks $13M or $13.5M is still reasonable because he does deserve a bit of a raise. It's a dumb situation.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Maybe he does not want to be a leader, heavy is the head that wears the crown.

He just wants to get paid like one is all.

The problem now is that even if he did want to sign for 8 years and give the team a bit of a deal, it has to be for more than he is currently making, because how can he take less or even the same? So while we think he should take the same or a slight raise at like $12M, he probably thinks $13M or $13.5M is still reasonable because he does deserve a bit of a raise. It's a dumb situation.

I think I deserve a raise for doing the same job I've been doing for years, and probably not gonna do any better than I have historically, but I doubt I'll be getting one.

It takes a real sense of entitlement to say to your boss that even though you've probably been overpaid the last five years you want a raise anyway just because, you know, it's been five years since your last one.

Never mind the fact he's already the highest paid employee in the company.

 

[IPS]

He just wants to get paid like one is all.



I think I deserve a raise for doing the same job I've been doing for years, and probably not gonna do any better than I have historically, but I doubt I'll be getting one.

It takes a real sense of entitlement to say to your boss that even though you've probably been overpaid the last five years you want a raise anyway just because, you know, it's been five years since your last one.

Never mind the fact he's already the highest paid employee in the company.

He's being paid on the fact that on the open market there will be teams who will gladly pay him more than his current salary.

It's got nothing to do with "being overpaid the last 5 years but getting a raise by default." Market value buddy.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

You could probably get rid of matthews and rebuild

Sure they could make a stupid choice.

Unless he says he's not signing you don't trade an MVP caliber player

 

[Hellcat]

He just wants to get paid like one is all.

Define a NHL leader.

 

[Rob Brown]

I think I deserve a raise for doing the same job I've been doing for years, and probably not gonna do any better than I have historically, but I doubt I'll be getting one.

It takes a real sense of entitlement to say to your boss that even though you've probably been overpaid the last five years you want a raise anyway just because, you know, it's been five years since your last one.

Never mind the fact he's already the highest paid employee in the company.

If you are in the same job for 5 years and have been doing well, yeah, you probably do deserve a raise. It's not entitled to ask for a raise or negotiate one during the appropriate window if you think you deserve one, especially as market conditions and salary expectations change. Pretty standard stuff.