News Article: Auston Matthews - August 1st., Contract Crickets

[Racer88]

So he wants to stay, but only if he can be the highest paid in the league!?

Yup……that says it all

 

[therealkoho]

Espn reporter Emily Kaplan was on tsn , very interesting what she had to say about Matthew's.
She did an interview with Mathews years ago .
She thinks that he want to be a trend setter money wise .
She never mentioned that a Stanley Cup being his main goal.
He adbviously want a cup but I think money is his true goal

I have a vague memory of this, and I think it was the first time I thought trading might be best for the team and make Marner the focus and to surround him with a lot of heavy talent like he had in London.

 

[Mess]

Food for thought.

Matthews currently has the 4th highest Cap hit % in the NHL at 14.6%.

Next year's Cap hit ceiling is being set at $83,500,000 for 2023-24.

So if Matthew's kept his exact same CH% as previous with no raise for Hart/Rocket that would put his annual/yearly AAV at $12.191 Mil based on current #'s if signed next year.

Now consider how much the cap will increase in upcoming years, and in the year Matthews deal expires they're projecting Cap ceiling for 2024-25 @ $87,500,000.

If Matthews were to sign at current CH% in UFA year that would put his AAV at $12.775 AAV per season. = Highest paid player in NHL history in a Salary Cap World and beat MacKinnon.

If Matthews signed at Mac new CH% of 15.3% based on $87,500,00 = $13,387,500 AAV.

 

[Racer88]

Two good 6 to 7 mill players and some draft picks are more valuable than Matthews at 13 mill.


He’s headed to the trading block.

That would absolutely be worth more than Mattews. He has already proven he is not a clutch player in the playoffs.
He simply cannot rise above when the game is on the line

 

[Nineteen67]

Matthews has no negotiating leverage with the Leafs. It’s either 12 ish at 5-7 yrs or they trade him. Dubas erred on his last contract and it hand-cuffed the team and then Matthews‘ pitiful playoff performances have made it worse.

Auston Matthews needs the Leafs more than they need him.

 

[Aashir Mallik]

Let's break this down a little

1. Would you rather pay Tavares 11M the next 2 years or have him becoming a UFA now? My votes UFA
2. If you think Matthews is overpaid at that number why do you want to extend it for the 32-34 yo years? Do you think he'll be a better value then?

Generally teams cant lock up UFA's for those numbers their forced to overpay on the backend. If we can avoid that, why wouldnt we?

When has a high end UFA ever been signed to 5 years though? It’s always 7-8.

Moreover, if he gets 5 years, he should not be getting a pay increase, there’s no need to do mental gymnastics. If the term is shorter, so is the AAV. He hasn’t even earned much of a raise when taking into consideration the overpayment of his original contract. On 5 years he shouldn’t get over 12. That essentially means we signed him through his prime years for 11.8x10. It would be an overpayment as he hasn’t been a consistent top 5 player in the league, but it’s still not too bad. Giving him 13+ makes no sense as he isn’t the 60 goal hart winner, you’d be paying for 27-32 year old matthews based off of what he did 1-2 years ago

 

[Nineteen67]

That would absolutely be worth more than Mattews. He has already proven he is not a clutch player in the playoffs.
He simply cannot rise above when the game is on the line

It’s not a lack of desire or effort, either. I think he knows that.

 

[Squiffy]

When has a high end UFA ever been signed to 5 years though? It’s always 7-8.

Moreover, if he gets 5 years, he should not be getting a pay increase, there’s no need to do mental gymnastics. If the term is shorter, so is the AAV. He hasn’t even earned much of a raise when taking into consideration the overpayment of his original contract. On 5 years he shouldn’t get over 12. That essentially means we signed him through his prime years for 11.8x10. It would be an overpayment as he hasn’t been a consistent top 5 player in the league, but it’s still not too bad. Giving him 13+ makes no sense as he isn’t the 60 goal hart winner, you’d be paying for 27-32 year old matthews based off of what he did 1-2 years ago

It's usually not 5 years for the superstar caliper players on the second contract either though. The mold is already broken here.

 

[therealkoho]

Me too. Quinn would have tough on the league for all the non calls and stuff.

Quinn was just as tough on his players, he wouldn't stand for guys not giving it their all. Big Irish played a long time for a guy who wasn't blessed with a whole bunch of talent, he was a player who was never going to be outworked and was completely fearless

 

[ToneDog]

It's usually not 5 years for the superstar caliper players on the second contract either though. The mold is already broken here.

Dubas could not get one of the 4 core forwards he bet everything on, to sign for 8 years. He's one hell of a trail blazer.

 

[NVious]

Food for thought.

Matthews currently has the 4th highest Cap hit % in the NHL at 14.6%.

View attachment 709595

Next year's Cap hit ceiling is being set at $83,500,000 for 2023-24.

So if Matthew's kept his exact same CH% as previous with no raise for Hart/Rocket that would put his annual/yearly AAV at $12.191 Mil based on current #'s if signed next year.

Now consider how much the cap will increase in upcoming years, and in the year Matthews deal expires they're projecting Cap ceiling for 2024-25 @ $87,500,000.

If Matthews were to sign at current CH% in UFA year that would put his AAV at $12.775 AAV per season. = Highest paid player in NHL history in a Salary Cap World and beat MacKinnon.

View attachment 709605

If Matthews signed at Mac new CH% of 15.3% based on $87,500,00 = $13,387,500 AAV.

Some more food for thought:

Playoffs:
Mackinnon - 100pts in 77gp
McDavid - 75pts in 49gp
Matthews 44pts in 50gp

 

[Mess]

I'd give him $100k more than MacKinnon but tell him we are gonna have to move his buddy.

Mackinnon walked into the GM's office holding the Stanley Cup and said "lets talk next contract"

 

[ToneDog]

Mackinnon walked into the GM's office holding the Stanley Cup and said "lets talk next contract"

SC not required to get overpaid in Toronto. Not the case in Denver.

 

[613Leafer]

Food for thought.

Matthews currently has the 4th highest Cap hit % in the NHL at 14.6%.

View attachment 709595

Next year's Cap hit ceiling is being set at $83,500,000 for 2023-24.

So if Matthew's kept his exact same CH% as previous with no raise for Hart/Rocket that would put his annual/yearly AAV at $12.191 Mil based on current #'s if signed next year.

Now consider how much the cap will increase in upcoming years, and in the year Matthews deal expires they're projecting Cap ceiling for 2024-25 @ $87,500,000.

If Matthews were to sign at current CH% in UFA year that would put his AAV at $12.775 AAV per season. = Highest paid player in NHL history in a Salary Cap World and beat MacKinnon.

View attachment 709605

If Matthews signed at Mac new CH% of 15.3% based on $87,500,00 = $13,387,500 AAV.

To be fair, Matthews first contract already did value him as a Hart calibre player, so I don't really see any need to give him a big raise.

McDavid won a Hart/Art Ross as a teenager before he signed for 8 X 12.5M. Matthews 5 X 11.6M is more or less the same value (ie for us to have signed him to an 8 year contract, the caphit would have obviously needed to be higher, and thus would have been in McDavid range).

 

[therealkoho]

I don't know what we can get. A sign and trade would net a lot more though. Really have no clue what we could get.



What did Dregs say he wanted? I see it. Take it or leave it, well better put it forward now and see what the damage is. That's not a very good start to this though.

There is no sign and trade possible

He will have a NMC July 1st which is the earliest he can sign a contract, why make the Leaf GM do the work the other GM should be doing.

 

[Mess]

SC not required to get overpaid in Toronto. Not the case in Denver.

Many of the top players in the NHL at high CH% deals .ie Crosby, Malkin, MacKinnon, Kopitar, Doughty, Toews, Kane etc all won Cups (sometimes multiple Cups) FIRST to earn their new SC winning salaries.

These players were paid for performance and delivering success first and then received remuneration based on delivering.

In Toronto thanks to Dubas, the Leaf players make the highest salaries in the NHL and then asked to deliver success to validate those bloated overpaid deals.

Its everything that is wrong with the Leafs, because what is the true playoff incentive if you already maxed out your salaries for 1st round exits?

I believe they call it sense of entitlement around the league, or putting the cart before the horse.

 

[capfit9]

Food for thought.

Matthews currently has the 4th highest Cap hit % in the NHL at 14.6%.

View attachment 709595

Next year's Cap hit ceiling is being set at $83,500,000 for 2023-24.

So if Matthew's kept his exact same CH% as previous with no raise for Hart/Rocket that would put his annual/yearly AAV at $12.191 Mil based on current #'s if signed next year.

Now consider how much the cap will increase in upcoming years, and in the year Matthews deal expires they're projecting Cap ceiling for 2024-25 @ $87,500,000.

If Matthews were to sign at current CH% in UFA year that would put his AAV at $12.775 AAV per season. = Highest paid player in NHL history in a Salary Cap World and beat MacKinnon.

View attachment 709605

If Matthews signed at Mac new CH% of 15.3% based on $87,500,00 = $13,387,500 AAV.

Add another million because you know Toronto income taxes

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Matthews has no negotiating leverage with the Leafs. It’s either 12 ish at 5-7 yrs or they trade him. Dubas erred on his last contract and it hand-cuffed the team and then Matthews‘ pitiful playoff performances have made it worse.

Auston Matthews needs the Leafs more than they need him.

I wish this was the case but I don't buy it.

 

[Gabriel426]

I said $13M is my line in the sand yeaterday, tough to walkaway for less than that IMO.

13mil is probably my max too but if it is for 5 years, it can't be more than Mack.
To me, 5 yrs max is 12.5m
8yrs can be 13m

Thats mainly bc he is getting paid 11.634mil and the jump is less than 1m or 1.5m.

 

[thewave]

12.775m is fine. Its not but thank Dubas for that. Just sign him for his 3,4,5 years or whatever and hope the new GM is better.

Its either that or get fleeced. Toronto always gets fleeced.

 

[Superstar]

Add another million because you know Toronto income taxes

That's just an excuse for robbing the Leafs blind...did Pastrnak took an extra $1 million from the Bruins on his recent contract? There are only a handful of no-state-tax states.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

5x$15M is insane.

Give me a 9M top C and a 6M top pairing D instead anyway.

That’s an Aho and a Slavin.

 

[Gabriel426]

Quinn was just as tough on his players, he wouldn't stand for guys not giving it their all. Big Irish played a long time for a guy who wasn't blessed with a whole bunch of talent, he was a player who was never going to be outworked and was completely fearless

Exactly. I still remembered the Domi incident where he went with Domi to the league hearing and a reported tried to get into the same elevator with them and Quinn just threw him out.
Quinn is a no non sense guy and instill fear into his players, staff, league and refs.

 

[thewave]

There is no sign and trade possible

He will have a NMC July 1st which is the earliest he can sign a contract, why make the Leaf GM do the work the other GM should be doing.

They could have a deal in principle worked out and agreed to with assurances. If he broke that his name would be mud.

If he is looking for 13+++ i would throw him under the bus publicly and ridicule he and the agent.

 

[capfit9]

That's just an excuse for robbing the Leafs blind...did Pastrnak took an extra $1 million from the Bruins on his recent contract? There are only a handful of no-state-tax states.

that's how its sold to us by the media through the agents