News Article: Auston Matthews - August 1st., Contract Crickets

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I guess.....even if they all take team friendly deals is that gonna change anything regarding the way they play? What Im hearing is yea lets sign all of them and run it back. Is money the only consideration when thnking about keeping the band together or not?


What are you even talking about? You keep saying Shanny in every post like he made every decision at all times. Where was Dubas when all this was going on?

I'm tired of running it back. Hasn't worked so far.
 
Yeah that's false.

When ovi had 65 goals and 111 points, his next highest teammate had 26 goals (semin) and 69 points (backstrom). He won the hart, lindsay, art Ross and rocket which is already more awards in 1 single season. He led the league by 6 points.

Matthews had 60 goals and 106 points, his next highest teammates had 35 goals and 97 points (marner) followed by 34 goals and 80 points. He won the rocket, hart and lindsay. He was 17 points behind #1.

In awards alone, ovi has a better season. Then when you account for quality of teammates, it isnt that close.
Look at my previous post...Ovies first 7 yrs in the league blows Matthews out of the water.....first 5 seasons he had 4 x50+goals 4x100+pts
 
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My reading of Matthews is he's a chameleon-like player who can be coaxed to play a more aggressive power style or a more defensive style at various times but the commitment level wanes depending on situation, opponent, etc. Unlike his pre-draft hype, I don't think he actually is an elite drive train player because he also has that annoyingly ineffective mid pace, lazy skating, perimeter gear.

That isn't to say you can't win with him. He's a unique, elite talent but I think more care needs to be put into selecting guys who can coax him to play a more dialed in brand. With Marner as his wing man they tend to default to a Harlem Globetrotter mentality, and it's not that effective in the playoffs.
Well said..
Esp the Harlem Globetrotters comparison ....which I think is bang on!
 
Works for me.
Same here....ship them all out....

I guess.....even if they all take team friendly deals is that gonna change anything regarding the way they play? What Im hearing is yea lets sign all of them and run it back. Is money the only consideration when thnking about keeping the band together or not?


What are you even talking about? You keep saying Shanny in every post like he made every decision at all times. Where was Dubas when all this was going on?
Dubas was probably obeying hus superior's orders....
 
Does/can Matthews score 50-60 without Marner?
He scored 40 as a rookie without Marner I think so yes. Much has been made here of the wrist and shooting this year but nothing has been said about it by the club or the various "insiders." I think the club is looking at it as something that will resolve over the summer and since they would have the inside medical info that we lack we should be able to trust that.

14 x 8 still bothers me because he has had a number of injured seasons and most of the time he is slow to get back his form after a return. If he missed no more than 3 games a year like Ovy it would be more comfortable to lock in for that long. The AAV is a bit excessive but if he is healthy he will earn it with sufficient cap growth. I have a concern that 21-22 was the same kind of year for him as for Kadri/Gaudreau/Huberdeau so there may not be be another one in his future but thats not how the club or his agent will negotiate. At $14M for Auston is there any chance they can retain Mitch?
 

It’s unclear when the news will come, and what the number will be, but it appears good news is on the horizon when it comes to Auston Matthews staying with the Toronto Maple Leafs beyond next season.

“I still am convinced that Auston Matthews is gonna sign in Toronto. I’ve been consistent about that, I still believe it,” Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman said during the latest episode of 32 Thoughts: The Podcast, released Friday.

Friedman explained that, from the viewpoint of Matthews’ camp, the elite 25-year-old centreman can expect to sign “two more big contracts in his future.”

“I think the Maple Leafs are gonna try to get a max-term deal out of this,” Friedman said. “I don’t know what the likelihood is, but I think they’re gonna try.”

Per Friedman, new Leafs GM Brad Treliving met with Matthews in Arizona last week.
Unlike last summer’s dinner meeting with Jonathan Huberdeau, who signed an eight-year extension with the Flames three days after sitting down with the now-former Calgary GM, Matthews has yet to sign such a deal in the wake of the Arizona visit. Friedman said both parties are “being really quiet” about negotiations in an effort to preserve the confidentiality of the process.

While Matthews is still under contract for another year, there is a sense of urgency given the long to-do list that landed on Treliving’s desk upon his hiring and swirling speculation about the longevity of the club’s Core Four.

Matthews is entering the final year of his five-year pact signed in February 2019, counting for $11.64 million against the cap. Not re-signing would start the clock ticking toward his pending unrestricted free agency July 1, 2024. Letting this process stretch out without a solid answer on term and cap hit would hinder Treliving & Co.’s ability to forge ahead with a clearer vision of the future during these crucial final weeks of June.

“I think that both sides understand here that this isn’t a decision that can wait a long time,” said Friedman. “The Maple Leafs, they’re doing their scouting meetings right now, they have to know kind of what this is going to look like so they can make a number of long-term decisions. The one thing that everybody here is well aware of, is that this is not something that can wait a long time. If nobody was sure that Matthews wanted to stay, I think we’d have a real problem here. But I think everybody, including Matthews’ people, recognizes that he wants to stay. So I think now becomes the question of, how quickly can this get done? And what are we looking at, so Toronto can do their other business.”
 
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13.34x3 is my guess.
Wouldn't do 3 with the NM. If Auston wants to bet on himself then he should go all in. You can't build your team around a guy coming off an injured season and only have three years to make it work. He will likely have an injury one of those years so maybe your main guy is only giving you two? And after the final year he wants a bidding war to jack the club's cap situation for another contract term. M-NTC like Pasta in the final year. He still gets to work the market for every possible nickel but the team isn't held hostage. And if they really want they can jump into the bidding during his UFA summer.
 
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It’s unclear when the news will come, and what the number will be, but it appears good news is on the horizon when it comes to Auston Matthews staying with the Toronto Maple Leafs beyond next season.

“I still am convinced that Auston Matthews is gonna sign in Toronto. I’ve been consistent about that, I still believe it,” Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman said during the latest episode of 32 Thoughts: The Podcast, released Friday.

Friedman explained that, from the viewpoint of Matthews’ camp, the elite 25-year-old centreman can expect to sign “two more big contracts in his future.”

“I think the Maple Leafs are gonna try to get a max-term deal out of this,” Friedman said. “I don’t know what the likelihood is, but I think they’re gonna try.”

Per Friedman, new Leafs GM Brad Treliving met with Matthews in Arizona last week.
Unlike last summer’s dinner meeting with Jonathan Huberdeau, who signed an eight-year extension with the Flames three days after sitting down with the now-former Calgary GM, Matthews has yet to sign such a deal in the wake of the Arizona visit. Friedman said both parties are “being really quiet” about negotiations in an effort to preserve the confidentiality of the process.

While Matthews is still under contract for another year, there is a sense of urgency given the long to-do list that landed on Treliving’s desk upon his hiring and swirling speculation about the longevity of the club’s Core Four.

Matthews is entering the final year of his five-year pact signed in February 2019, counting for $11.64 million against the cap. Not re-signing would start the clock ticking toward his pending unrestricted free agency July 1, 2024. Letting this process stretch out without a solid answer on term and cap hit would hinder Treliving & Co.’s ability to forge ahead with a clearer vision of the future during these crucial final weeks of June.

“I think that both sides understand here that this isn’t a decision that can wait a long time,” said Friedman. “The Maple Leafs, they’re doing their scouting meetings right now, they have to know kind of what this is going to look like so they can make a number of long-term decisions. The one thing that everybody here is well aware of, is that this is not something that can wait a long time. If nobody was sure that Matthews wanted to stay, I think we’d have a real problem here. But I think everybody, including Matthews’ people, recognizes that he wants to stay. So I think now becomes the question of, how quickly can this get done? And what are we looking at, so Toronto can do their other business.”
I want to be here but Im going after every penny. Then home-town boy Mitch will follow suit
 
I want to be here but Im going after every penny. Then home-town boy Mitch will follow suit
Im getting to the place that if we are just gonna run it back anyways and if the 3 amigos are going for max dollars then lets just play this out to the end and let the contracts of all 4 core players run out....let em walk if they want and rebuild with all the cap space. Its a gamble on their part as well if they get injured or have a bad year etc. You wanna bet on yourself, great do that then.

My first option would be to jettison them out of here ASAP but it doesnt look like thats gonna happen.
 

It’s unclear when the news will come, and what the number will be, but it appears good news is on the horizon when it comes to Auston Matthews staying with the Toronto Maple Leafs beyond next season.

“I still am convinced that Auston Matthews is gonna sign in Toronto. I’ve been consistent about that, I still believe it,” Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman said during the latest episode of 32 Thoughts: The Podcast, released Friday.

Friedman explained that, from the viewpoint of Matthews’ camp, the elite 25-year-old centreman can expect to sign “two more big contracts in his future.”

“I think the Maple Leafs are gonna try to get a max-term deal out of this,” Friedman said. “I don’t know what the likelihood is, but I think they’re gonna try.”

Per Friedman, new Leafs GM Brad Treliving met with Matthews in Arizona last week.
Unlike last summer’s dinner meeting with Jonathan Huberdeau, who signed an eight-year extension with the Flames three days after sitting down with the now-former Calgary GM, Matthews has yet to sign such a deal in the wake of the Arizona visit. Friedman said both parties are “being really quiet” about negotiations in an effort to preserve the confidentiality of the process.

While Matthews is still under contract for another year, there is a sense of urgency given the long to-do list that landed on Treliving’s desk upon his hiring and swirling speculation about the longevity of the club’s Core Four.

Matthews is entering the final year of his five-year pact signed in February 2019, counting for $11.64 million against the cap. Not re-signing would start the clock ticking toward his pending unrestricted free agency July 1, 2024. Letting this process stretch out without a solid answer on term and cap hit would hinder Treliving & Co.’s ability to forge ahead with a clearer vision of the future during these crucial final weeks of June.

“I think that both sides understand here that this isn’t a decision that can wait a long time,” said Friedman. “The Maple Leafs, they’re doing their scouting meetings right now, they have to know kind of what this is going to look like so they can make a number of long-term decisions. The one thing that everybody here is well aware of, is that this is not something that can wait a long time. If nobody was sure that Matthews wanted to stay, I think we’d have a real problem here. But I think everybody, including Matthews’ people, recognizes that he wants to stay. So I think now becomes the question of, how quickly can this get done? And what are we looking at, so Toronto can do their other business.”
Do these Insiders just say the same thing every day?
 
Im getting to the place that if we are just gonna run it back anyways and if the 3 amigos are going for max dollars then lets just play this out to the end and let the contracts of all 4 core players run out....let em walk if they want and rebuild with all the cap space. Its a gamble on their part as well if they get injured or have a bad year etc. You wanna bet on yourself, great do that then.

My first option would be to jettison them out of here ASAP but it doesnt look like thats gonna happen.
Marner + Nylander for Necas, Aho and Pesce (too heavy?)

Matthews for MacTavish, #2OA, Drysdale (too light?)
 
I heard he wants $14M+ for 5 years maybe. Trade him. He just doesn't have the necessary impact on the game to warrant that much in regards to replacement value. Leafs should really blow it up. Trying to fix this roster while players are just milking the franchise would be a tall order for even the best GM on the planet.
 
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The Leafs Nation: Frank Seravalli on the latest involving the Toronto Maple Leafs and Auston Matthews.

** NHLRumors.com transcription

There’s two different things that are going on right now. A push and a pull.

On one hand, you’ve got Brad Treliving who kind of went through a really tough situation with Johnny Gaudreau and watched him go through the season and then walk for nothing. And I don’t think anyone’s thinking that Auston Matthews is thinking along that path, but I still there’s a real push from the Leafs perspective from Brad Treliving and that scare tissue, to get him locked up long-term before, at least medium-term before July 1st. So that you can kind of put that to bed and put it to rest.

Then you have on the other hand Matthews camp, which has said and done all the right things till this point. ‘I intend to be Toronto Maple Leaf. I’d like to sign before the season starts.’ But leaves sort of an open-ended and open date, of well, when?

So the thought process I think has been, what happens if Brad Treliving and the Toronto Maple Leafs give Auston Matthews everything he wants? The contract and the term, etc., etc. They come to terms, at least. Auston Matthews asked for ‘X’ and the Leafs gave him ‘X.’ But what if he still doesn’t sign? I don’t think they’re in any hurry to sign, is at least understanding.


So those two things are butting up against each other and it puts the Leafs in, kind of a really uncomfortable position to be in. Which is like, ‘Hey, we are going to bend over backwards to make you happy, and if it’s still not good enough. Then what’s to say if it’s not good enough in late June that it’s suddenly going to be good enough in September or December or February when we get close to the trade deadline?

The Leafs can’t be in a situation where Austin Matthews one year from now is walked to free agency and leaves. So I think it’s a really uncomfortable spot for Brad Treliving to be in.
 
I love how people fixate on goals and the regular season while not caring about anything else when talking about Matthews.

Points > goals.

This year alone mack had 111 points to Matthew's 85!

Out of the 7 seasons Matthews has been in the league, auston has only had more points twice.

In the playoffs, mack has a 1.30 ppg over his career vs a 0.88 for Matthews. That's a difference of 34 points per 82 games!

Yet auston thinks he deserves to be the highest paid player? Gtfo

A goal scoring centre is a much rarer player than a playmaking one.

Then one should also considers the comparable goal scorers are often wingers like Pasta or Ovie who have to carry a fraction of the defensive responsibility of a centre like Matthews.
 
I heard he wants $14M+ for 5 years maybe. Trade him. He just doesn't have the necessary impact on the game to warrant that much in regards to replacement value. Leafs should really blow it up. Trying to fix this roster while players are just milking the franchise would be a tall order for even the best GM on the planet.

Tend to agree. The Dubas created atmosphere here is one where the top players expect overpays for having to play here. This is at the same time where all other players expect to be short lived.
 
I love how people fixate on goals and the regular season while not caring about anything else when talking about Matthews.

Points > goals.

This year alone mack had 111 points to Matthew's 85!

Out of the 7 seasons Matthews has been in the league, auston has only had more points twice.

In the playoffs, mack has a 1.30 ppg over his career vs a 0.88 for Matthews. That's a difference of 34 points per 82 games!

Yet auston thinks he deserves to be the highest paid player? Gtfo
In what world do assists > goals?

Goals are the be all end all. I could potentially see a case made for primary assists but definitely not secondary assists, they're next to nothing.
 
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In what world do assists > goals?

Goals are the be all end all. I could potentially see a case made for primary assists but definitely not secondary assists, they're next to nothing.

Half the time the primary A is secondary to the effort of the goal scorer. The primary is important when the play is considered exceptional.

What does it matter if say Matthews gets open and Marner finds him with an easy pass that even Hyman could have made. Then Matthews gets the zones makes a move and places it top hand corner.

Paul Marner over here will argue you all day that the simple pass was genius and worth 11m but its not lol.
 
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