Auston Matthews 69 goals in 81 games, most goals scored since Lemieux in 1995-96

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McDavid is singular with his speed and puck skills but he cheats on defense.

Not because he’s inferior but because he’s McDavid. Matthews is way better defensively.
Not this year.

McDavid has turned that around a ton so his points are slipping, yet he is still up there in points

What is all the stupid bickering about in here anyways?

Why are people even breathing Matthews names with mcDavids? lol

This is about Matthews and his hot goal scoring season

Like I say in every thread, who cares about regular season. Playoffs is the only important thing, and for Matthews specifically, he does not elevate there. He goes downwards,

He has to change that. Regular season points and goals, etc are fun, but mean jack shit in the end
 
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What's notable about this season for Matthews is how concentrated his goal scoring has been this season. In his best 14 games this season, he's got 34 goals. [Why 14 games? Because Matthews now has 14 2+ goal games, it's the 65th time in league history someone has 14 or more 2-goal games, and everyone else I looked at for this had at least that many as well.] If you compare that to other great (70+) goal scoring seasons of the past, those guys had similar "top-14 game" marks. OK, except for Gretzky, he had 40+ goals in his best 14 games when he scored 92 and 87. And Lemieux, who had 40 in his 85-goal season.

That's where the similarities end. Matthews 2 seasons ago had 16 2+ goal games; his best 14 games, he had 32 goals. He finished with only 60 goals. Part of that was because he only played 73 games, but in those other 59 he only netted 28. Guys who've put up 70+ have tended to still score in those other games at a ~50 goal pace; Matthews was on 39-goal pace. This season? Matthews has 14 in his other 38 games, which is barely 30-goal pace.

Those guys also tended to score a goal in 60-65% of the games they played in. Matthews only scored a goal in 41 of the 73 games (56%) in 22-23, he only has a goal in 28 of 52 (53%) this season.

I'm not saying Matthews can't get to 70+, and I'm not about to look at his 20.x shooting percentage this season and scream REGRESSION TO THE MEAN like I'm sure some will, but I am saying the way he's going about going for 70+ goals is .... definitely different from how everyone else who netted 70+ - especially the guys who netted 76+ - went about it.
 
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It's funny to see this level of insecurity. On a night when Matthews scores a hattrick and has a good chance to surpass 70 goals for the first time in....I don;t know how many seasons, his fans are arguing about his blocked shots prowess and McDavid's defensive game. LOL.

If we're going to be honest, it was started by this poster who is not a Leafs fan. It was bait and some people but, the thread declined from there.
 

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What's notable about this season for Matthews is how concentrated his goal scoring has been this season. In his best 14 games this season, he's got 34 goals. [Why 14 games? Because Matthews now has 14 2+ goal games, it's the 65th time in league history someone has 14 or more 2-goal games, and everyone else I looked at for this had at least that many as well.] If you compare that to other great (70+) goal scoring seasons of the past, those guys had similar "top-14 game" marks. OK, except for Gretzky, he had 40+ goals in his best 14 games when he scored 92 and 87. And Lemieux, who had 40 in his 85-goal season.

That's where the similarities end. Matthews 2 seasons ago had 16 2+ goal games; his best 14 games, he had 32 goals. He finished with only 60 goals. Part of that was because he only played 73 games, but in those other 59 he only netted 28. Guys who've put up 70+ have tended to still score in those other games at a ~50 goal pace; Matthews was on 39-goal pace. This season? Matthews has 14 in his other 38 games, which is barely 30-goal pace.

Those guys also tended to score a goal in 60-65% of the games they played in. Matthews only scored a goal in 41 of the 73 games (56%) in 22-23, he only has a goal in 28 of 52 (53%) this season.

I'm not saying Matthews can't get to 70+, and I'm not about to look at his 20.x shooting percentage this season and scream REGRESSION TO THE MEAN like I'm sure some will, but I am saying the way he's going about going for 70+ goals is .... definitely different from how everyone else who netted 70+ - especially the guys who netted 76+ - went about it.
So he's somewhere between Lemieux and maybe Bonino, if blocked shots aren't the be all end all.
 

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What's notable about this season for Matthews is how concentrated his goal scoring has been this season. In his best 14 games this season, he's got 34 goals. [Why 14 games? Because Matthews now has 14 2+ goal games, it's the 65th time in league history someone has 14 or more 2-goal games, and everyone else I looked at for this had at least that many as well.] If you compare that to other great (70+) goal scoring seasons of the past, those guys had similar "top-14 game" marks. OK, except for Gretzky, he had 40+ goals in his best 14 games when he scored 92 and 87. And Lemieux, who had 40 in his 85-goal season.

That's where the similarities end. Matthews 2 seasons ago had 16 2+ goal games; his best 14 games, he had 32 goals. He finished with only 60 goals. Part of that was because he only played 73 games, but in those other 59 he only netted 28. Guys who've put up 70+ have tended to still score in those other games at a ~50 goal pace; Matthews was on 39-goal pace. This season? Matthews has 14 in his other 38 games, which is barely 30-goal pace.

Those guys also tended to score a goal in 60-65% of the games they played in. Matthews only scored a goal in 41 of the 73 games (56%) in 22-23, he only has a goal in 28 of 52 (53%) this season.

I'm not saying Matthews can't get to 70+, and I'm not about to look at his 20.x shooting percentage this season and scream REGRESSION TO THE MEAN like I'm sure some will, but I am saying the way he's going about going for 70+ goals is .... definitely different from how everyone else who netted 70+ - especially the guys who netted 76+ - went about it.

Imagine trying to downplay a potential 70 goal season. What a sad sad little person you are
 

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Crosby and Malkin both have 13 career hat tricks. Matthews just tied them at age 26. Ovechkin has 30, Matthews will likely surpass that too.
 
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Matthews might have hit 50 goals tonight if Keefe didn't shelter him after the hat trick.

Had 5 points (3G, 2A) 25 mins into the game and ended up playing under 15 mins - less than McMann, Gregor and Kampf
 

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Imagine trying to downplay a potential 70 goal season. What a sad sad little person you are

I don't think he's downplaying, just pointing out an interesting statistic indicating that he may not reach 70.

Crosby and Malkin both have 13 career hat tricks. Matthews just tied them at age 26. Ovechkin has 30, Matthews will likely surpass that too.

It's all in longevity. It's hard to say how players will maintain their scoring touch once they go into their 30s.
 
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If we're going to be honest, it was started by this poster who is not a Leafs fan. It was bait and some people but, the thread declined from there.

Lol not to mention the people complaining about it are the ones engaging in it.

Whether people like it or not the Leafs have a GOAT goal scorer who has downright dominant defensive capabilities. Sounds crazy only if you don’t watch the player enough, but it still surprises me because it’s hard to believe a player can be this good.
 
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That's not how you prove a fact.

Ok then,
It's funny to see this level of insecurity. On a night when Matthews scores a hattrick and has a good chance to surpass 70 goals for the first time in....I don;t know how many seasons, his fans are arguing about his blocked shots prowess and McDavid's defensive game. LOL.

Again - just this one time; McDavid is the most elite offensive talent the league has seen since Mario (who was better), but defensively he’s meh. Half a season won’t change minds.
 
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This guy is the best overall player in the league. Another Hart coming his way. 70 goals. Incredible. I mean his team may not end up doing much but I would blame that on Dubas roster construction over one of the games goats
 

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It's funny to see this level of insecurity. On a night when Matthews scores a hattrick and has a good chance to surpass 70 goals for the first time in....I don;t know how many seasons, his fans are arguing about his blocked shots prowess and McDavid's defensive game. LOL.
To be fair it’s not much of an argument. Matthews is better defensively and as a goal scorer. Mcdavid the better offensive threat all around and the better player. It’s not as hard to admit as some people make it. Matthews is never getting 150 points. And that’s fine.
 

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Every single McDavid, Kucherov, Matthews, Hughes, Makar thread: 'I can't acknowledge that X player is good at hockey. I have to compare him negatively in some way to my favourite player, otherwise my already miniscule dick will shrink even further!'
 

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Matthews might have hit 50 goals tonight if Keefe didn't shelter him after the hat trick.

Had 5 points (3G, 2A) 25 mins into the game and ended up playing under 15 mins - less than McMann, Gregor and Kampf
Sheltered him yes to protect from injury, but also there’s a kinda code that you don’t do certain things, like run up the score when you’re up 8-1 after 2 . Some other stuff too that has been debated recently.
 

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Sheltered him yes to protect from injury, but also there’s a kinda code that you don’t do certain things, like run up the score when you’re up 8-1 after 2 . Some other stuff too that has been debated recently.

I agree, I'm not saying it was a bad move. They won 9-2.
 

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Sheltered him yes to protect from injury, but also there’s a kinda code that you don’t do certain things, like run up the score when you’re up 8-1 after 2 . Some other stuff too that has been debated recently.
Happened in Vancouver early on in the year as well, Rick decided to stop playing the top unit after they were destroying Edmonton.

Of course crybaby McDavid took it as a shot🤦‍♂️
 

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Interesting, except in his rookie season (and this one so far), he never played all 82 games. Endurance may be a problem when going after those all-time records.
 

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Interesting, except in his rookie season (and this one so far), he never played all 82 games. Endurance may be a problem when going after those all-time records.

He's not playing 82 games this year either. He already missed a game due to illness.
 

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