Auston Matthew 50 in 50 watch (37 in 42 so far)

[TheStatican]

Not sure what you’re babbling on about, but there is nothing inherently interesting about ‘50 in 50’, which is why it took the NHL nearly 20 years to recognize the feat officially.

Thanks for sharing your opinion, anonymous person on the internet. It doesn't alter the fact that the only legitimate authority on the matter, the NHL, officially recognizes it as being a noteworthy record.

Most casual fans are going to ask about all time goal or assist leaders, they aren’t going to know or care about fringe records like 50 in 50 or Gordon Howe Hat trick leaders that us hardcore fans seem to find interesting.

Literally all records hold varying levels of interest. Do you think casual fans perceive the single-season plus/minus or shooting percentage records as intriguing or significant as the all-time points or goal scoring record? Regardless of the unique significance or value attached to any individual record they all fall under the overarching category of 'RECORDS'.

Here's the full list for your reference: NHL Records

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

Thanks for sharing your opinion, anonymous person on the internet. It doesn't alter the fact that the only legitimate authority on the matter, the NHL, officially recognizes it as being a noteworthy record.

Literally all records hold varying levels of interest. Do you think casual fans perceive the single-season plus/minus or shooting percentage records as intriguing or significant as the all-time points or goal scoring record? Regardless of the unique significance or value attached to any individual record they all fall under the overarching category of 'RECORDS'.

Here's the full list for your reference: NHL Records

You seem confused as to what we are discussing, which was how it originated, and it originated from fans pushing for the NHL to recognize the feat of Richard.

It took nearly 20 years after the fact, the NHL didn’t just start tracking the record on its own volition, like the majority of other records you linked.

Again, I don’t understand your patronizing tone, as if someone on a hockey forum discussing the intricacies of how a record came about needs a lesson on whether or not it’s an official NHL record. You don’t seem interested in having a lighthearted discussion about the record, its origin, or really anything that moves the needle on a productive conversation.

 

[mkatcherin00]

Matthews is an insane goal scorer. Very streaky, but people forget how hard it is to do.

Look at Gretzky doing it in 39. Now that is insane

He got 4 goals and then gets 5 goals the next game against Philly to get 50 lol.

9 goals in 2 games to get 50 in 39.

Matthews needs a 4 goal game or one more crazy streak. He just ahd one where he seemed like he was scoring 2 a game.

Thats cause hes better as using his teammates.

He demonstrated last year, he could score at Matthews level if he wanted to.

This too. Matthew's is a great goal scorer. Guy just isn't all around when it comes to creating as a C

His assist totals are always going to be very low. Just look at the top 10/15 leaders in points right now

 

[The90]

Matthews is an insane goal scorer. Very streaky, but people forget how hard it is to do.

Look at Gretzky doing it in 39. Now that is insane

He got 4 goals and then gets 5 goals the next game against Philly to get 50 lol.

9 goals in 2 games to get 50 in 39.

Matthews needs a 4 goal game or one more crazy streak. He just ahd one where he seemed like he was scoring 2 a game.

This too. Matthew's is a great goal scorer. Guy just isn't all around when it comes to creating as a C

His assist totals are always going to be very low. Just look at the top 10/15 leaders in points right now

Matthews is literally the least streaky goal scorer in the league lol

 

[TheStatican]

as if someone on a hockey forum discussing the intricacies of how a record came about needs a lesson on whether or not it’s an official NHL recorecord

Clearly you do, since you don't seem to understand the role and importance of fan interest. Also, hypocrite much?

Not sure what you’re babbling on about,

What are you on?

not whatever you just babbled on about.

Yeah, your tone has been completely neutral.

You seem confused as to what we are discussing, which was how it originated, and it originated from fans pushing for the NHL to recognize the feat of Richard.

I've already skoen to this, but great job of needlessly carrying on the conversation. Gotta have that 'final say,' eh? Seeing as how literally nobody has agreed with a single thing you've said over the last two pages, and with how your now just repating yourself, I'll give you that much.

 

[JadedLeaf]

 

[Frank Drebin]

Not trying to minimize what he's done, but 517? What is the significance of that?

 

[Leaf Fans]

you guys forgot to add the bonus 5x multiplier for being a Leaf to Matthews totals and to change McDavid's points to be Giroux adjusted

That is not what happens.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Not trying to minimize what he's done, but 517? What is the significance of that?

I don't think it means anything. It is just that Matthews has played 517 games so the comparison is based on that. Not any significance to the number 517.

 

[Levard]

462 in 517 is insane.

 

[Frank Drebin]

I don't it means anything. It is just that Matthews has played 517 games so the comparison is based on that. Not any significance to the number 517.

Ah just a snapshot in time basically

 

[authentic]

462 in 517 is insane.

It is, but adjust for era and Matthews would be over 400 too. The really insane part is people don’t realize how much closer Matthews is than the raw totals indicate.

 

[lipstickjunkie]

He also leads the league in posts/crossbars with 11

 

[Levard]

It is, but adjust for era and Matthews would be over 400 too. The really insane part is people don’t realize how much closer Matthews is than the raw totals indicate.

Yeah possible dont know how and if adjusting between eras works.

It is really impressive to see though.. and even if im a habs fans I follow boxscore to see if Matthews scored lol.

 

[bobholly39]

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Notice Matthews is ahead of Ovechkin.

Matthews is going to keep gaining distance on Ovechkin this year and next too, age to age.
This season for Matthews is the equivalent of 2011-2012 for Ovi (ages 26), an off year (38 goals). Next year is the equivalent of 2012-2013 for Ovi (lockout year for Ovi, so only 32 goals, even if it's a rocket/hart year).

So for Raw goal totals age for age - Matthews will be ahead of Ovechkin, and possibly by a good amount at the end of his age 27 season, barring any big injuries. He could be ahead by as much as ~50 goals

I don't think anyone expects Matthews to age as well as Ovechkin has as a goal-scorer, but he could still end up reaching very high in the all-time goal-scoring list.

I say:

- Matthews will 99% hit 600+ career goals. Only major injuries can prevent this at this point
- Matthews will at ~50-75% likelihood surpass 700+ career goals
- 800+ goals is the hard one. I used to think he'd have a ~5-10% chance max, but I'm starting to think he has as much as a ~20-25% chance to hit that.

 

[Video Nasty]

It is, but adjust for era and Matthews would be over 400 too. The really insane part is people don’t realize how much closer Matthews is than the raw totals indicate.

He’s really not.

Gretzky won his first goal scoring race by 43.8% over Bossy (28 goal win), won his second while having more assists than anyone else had points, won his third by 55.4% (31 goal win), won his fourth while having as many assists as the points runner up, his own teammate who he helped score 71 himself, decided he wanted to average two assists per game after that four year run, and then won his fifth while once again dishing out more assists than anyone had points.

We can play make believe with era adjusting to make a vain attempt to explain away the biggest anomaly of all, but it doesn’t work.

I’d be open to your mindset if Matthews had anything resembling even half that kind of dominance in his opening 500 games.

All of that being said, 329 goals in 517 games so far is awesome and I hope to see him flirt with 70 goals, no question.

 

[authentic]

He’s really not.

Gretzky won his first goal scoring race by 43.8% over Bossy (28 goal win), won his second while having more assists than anyone else had points, won his third by 55.4% (31 goal win), won his fourth while having as many assists as the points runner up, his own teammate who he helped score 71 himself, decided he wanted to average two assists per game after that four year run, and then won his fifth while once again dishing out more assists than anyone had points.

We can play make believe with era adjusting to make a vain attempt to explain away the biggest anomaly of all, but it doesn’t work.

I’d be open to your mindset if Matthews had anything resembling even half that kind of dominance in his opening 500 games.

All of that being said, 329 goals in 517 games so far is awesome and I hope to see him flirt with 70 goals, no question.

Uh, he really is. If Bossy is over 400 goals then adjusted for era Matthews is even better than that.

 

[Bruce Granville]

31 in 38.

 

[authentic]

Yeah possible dont know how and if adjusting between eras works.

It is really impressive to see though.. and even if im a habs fans I follow boxscore to see if Matthews scored lol.

Well what works is you get a more accurate representation of talent levels across eras. Matthews is hands down the best goal scorer of his era, so using common sense he’s somewhere between Bossy and Gretzky. Some people consider that a stretch but think about how the 80s didn’t even have Russian players or half as many Europeans yet, that’s not even factored into the adjusted stats.

 

[castle]

No one understands what your talking about, could you try and be more clear.

In one 80 game season, Gretzky accounted 50 in 50, 30 times, 1-50, 2-51, 3-52 etc

That’s why 50, in the first 50 teams games is the record to shoot for,

31 times.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

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LMAO

This frfr?

 

[authentic]

31 times.

When you’re over a goal per game player in the 80s that’s bound to happen. 1 try vs. 31 I wonder which one is going to happen more.

 

[castle]

When you’re over a goal per game player in the 80s that’s bound to happen. 1 try vs. 31 I wonder which one is going to happen more.

Yes, this is why the official 50 in 50 is a much more significant accomplishment then scoring 50 is some other arbitrary string of 50 games.

 

[Dave92]

Not trying to minimize what he's done, but 517? What is the significance of that?

It's the game the infographic was being presented in obviously.

 

[Frank Drebin]

It's the game the infographic was being presented in obviously.

Thanks. While we're pointing out the obvious, this was already answered on Sunday.