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AUDIO - Cam Neely looses it on 98.5 as Felger and Mazz pound him with questions

DKH said:
Cam is to fiery to be President of the Bruins -I'd like to see them bring in Neil Smith. He is great on NHL network and wouldn't snap at poor Felger
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Mentioned his name here many times, think this is the first I`ve seen a fellow fan also mention him
 
I like Cam and I also unlike most here like Felger and Mazz. 98.5 is the first sports station in town to give the Bz legit airtime and consideration and FnM while they admittedly bring up the controversial stuff to get people riled up, that is what they are SUPPOSED TO DO!! The fact that they had the president of the Bruins on air and asked the tough legit questions is more that you could have even gotten before this station got on board with hockey..
:shakehead
 
BruinDust said:
True, sometimes they load up that top line and it's Seguin not Spezza who moves to the wing.

They should of kept him as at least a winger in any event. I remember when it came out that Horton wasn't returning my initial reaction was that Seguin would move up a line, improve as he got older, and become a elite level winger, replacing Horton and giving the Krejci line a different dynamic.

Lucic - Krejci - Seguin

Could of been dynamite.
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Seguin moving into Horton's place.......... hmmmm......

Think it was a bit more complicated that that..... or then again, maybe not.:sarcasm:
 
Last time I heard them interview cam they literally had nothing to ask him because the team was rolling - he called em out on it too and they admitted as much on air.
 
Cam and Sweeney are a package folks, as much as people want to believe it's all Neelys fault. The only reason he faces more scrutiny is the fact he stands in front of the media and talks more than any other from the management team. He is protecting Don and letting him GM while he takes the punches. It will probably end with his head chopped off for it too, but I can respect him for willing to do this while he could have just taken a paycheck as a figure head
 
BostonPC said:
I thought from day one that he was in over his head. Not his fault... he just had never done anything like this before. I don't blame him for being frustrated and yes I do think he was biting his tongue trying not to say what he really wanted to. The anger almost won out but he was smart to hold off especially with Felger and Mazz. They need something to beat into the ground.
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You are pretty spot on but what everyone is forgetting is the Jacobs love of money. Do you think if The Clodes contract were up he'd still be there! Do you think JJ and Co are going to let DS buy players out. These aholes are only in it for the dough! That is one reason I'm glad CN is there because I think the weasel family are a little intimidated by him! I like that Cam wants to be in the POs because even with our Crappy D we beat everyone in the East except Washington and who knows how beat up they would be if we played them . I know what everyone is saying about just getting in and getting stomped but does anyone think we wouldn't have beaten the Bolts. We beat them with Stammer in their lineup. Neely and Donny have a tough job to try to get a team into the Cup finals when players are underperforming, all have NTC / NMC, players getting injured by a soft breeze, goaltending way overpaid for what they bring, and last but not least an owner who lives in Buff and probably has season tix to the Sabers and is only in this for the $.
Just my take, sport for the rant.
Duffy in Mineville.
 
shackattack said:
The real problem is Bruins defence stinks.Not one question about backend.Neely will be fired in near future too in my opinion.Just not a smart president.Anyone near that Seguin deal I want far from Bruins.
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Can we all please remember what an invisible player Seguin was in the 2013 finals and most of the playoffs? I don't care about the off ice issues if he had put ANY effort out in the finals Boston would have had another cup.

If you are Patrice Bergeron playing with essentially a broken body in the finals I don't think you would have been too thrilled looking at a guy who was floating like Phil Kessel in a mens Sunday afternoon league.

Hindsight is great and I have always said they needed to get more for Seguin but his immaturity and lack of effort lead to his being dealt and I had no problem with it then or now. A return of Eriksson, Smith and minor leaguers is on Chiarelli and his inability to do his job.

As far as Neely goes now, I don't know how anybody could put up with those two idiots Felger and Mazz and not swear up a storm, one thinks he is the radio incarnation of Scotty Bowman and the other knows nothing about hockey. Neely knows this is his last chance and two weasley little know it alls trying to be funny for ratings would set me off as well.

Never mind the fact that the game he knows and grew up playing is being usurped by analytic geeks and pacifists, nope I wouldn't be thrilled either. None of this forgives last years defense though.
 
I will say this, then let you guys have your discussion. Everyone has the ability to make their own choices, so you can choose to believe what you want.

I have no ties to the Bruins and therefore I can say what I want, when I want without fear of losing my job, or being blacklisted by the team or what have you. Maybe some in the media in Boston have to keep that in the back of their minds. I don't know.

Dan (DKH) will tell you I had this phone conversation with him sometime last season (2014-2015). I told him then, watch out for Sinden and watch out for Neely. None of this cam out in the Boston media until this season.

When we were talking, Dan started about the Seguin trade and Chiarelli when I interrupted him and said "hold on a second Dan, it wasn't Chiarelli's choice to trade him, he was told to get the best deal possible for him." Dan was shocked but here we are today. I'm not about to say it was Neely, not about to say it was Sinden. But what we heard Neely say at the presser (despite KPD (?) saying Neely doesn't have to sign off on trades) he has the ability to stop trades. Not just Sweeney's, he had that right to stop Chiarelli's deals as well. It's the President's job. And as Dan has told us many times, he used that authority given to him under the NHL constitution to stop a Chiarelli deal with Arizona.

Those are facts. By Neely's own admission, despite what has been written in the papers, and what I have been trying to say here for over a year.

Here's how I see recent events. Neely met with JJ a week prior to the presser. IMO Neely was told last chance and thus JJ and Charlie basically came out and said the buck stops with Neely. It's on him. This set up Neely to be the fall guy next offseason if things don't improve.

My problem is that Neely acts on emotion. And if he could, he would blow things up out of haste. The Bruins need a calm, rational, level headed person with patience to see this through.

Enter Don Sweeney.

Sweeney is exactly that and he will keep Cam on a level keel. The problem is that it should be the other way around. Neely is the one who should be keeping things level headed.

Don't really care who reads this, I know someone in the Bruins organization will read this. Personally, I think Sweeney has been given the green light from JJ to do as he sees fit and that began with keeping Julien in place. But if that's not the case, then Neely will ultimately be released before Sweeney.

They made the bed. Neely is responsible for what happens. Now we wait for success, or the shoe to drop.
 
duffy said:
You are pretty spot on but what everyone is forgetting is the Jacobs love of money. Do you think if The Clodes contract were up he'd still be there! Do you think JJ and Co are going to let DS buy players out. These aholes are only in it for the dough! That is one reason I'm glad CN is there because I think the weasel family are a little intimidated by him! I like that Cam wants to be in the POs because even with our Crappy D we beat everyone in the East except Washington and who knows how beat up they would be if we played them . I know what everyone is saying about just getting in and getting stomped but does anyone think we wouldn't have beaten the Bolts. We beat them with Stammer in their lineup. Neely and Donny have a tough job to try to get a team into the Cup finals when players are underperforming, all have NTC / NMC, players getting injured by a soft breeze, goaltending way overpaid for what they bring, and last but not least an owner who lives in Buff and probably has season tix to the Sabres and is only in this for the $.
Just my take, sport for the rant.
Duffy in Mineville.
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Yea, there are many easier and more profitable ways to make money when you have a crapton already.

Also, Delaware North has it's headquarters in Buffalo and JJ owns the concessions at the First Niagara Center.
 
duffy said:
You are pretty spot on but what everyone is forgetting is the Jacobs love of money. Do you think if The Clodes contract were up he'd still be there! Do you think JJ and Co are going to let DS buy players out. These aholes are only in it for the dough! That is one reason I'm glad CN is there because I think the weasel family are a little intimidated by him! I like that Cam wants to be in the POs because even with our Crappy D we beat everyone in the East except Washington and who knows how beat up they would be if we played them . I know what everyone is saying about just getting in and getting stomped but does anyone think we wouldn't have beaten the Bolts. We beat them with Stammer in their lineup. Neely and Donny have a tough job to try to get a team into the Cup finals when players are underperforming, all have NTC / NMC, players getting injured by a soft breeze, goaltending way overpaid for what they bring, and last but not least an owner who lives in Buff and probably has season tix to the Sabres and is only in this for the $.
Just my take, sport for the rant.
Duffy in Mineville.
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Good viewpoint.
Cam is like the safety valve for us. At least he has the desire to push these guys. Seems like he doesn't need our anger or the media's questions to motivate him. I know people are turned off by his fiery disposition. I'm not. I think Cam signing off on transactions is being overplayed. You trust that your staff is giving you good advice. If not, you fire them. Sweeney is his first hire.
 
Dom - OHL said:
I will say this, then let you guys have your discussion. Everyone has the ability to make their own choices, so you can choose to believe what you want.

I have no ties to the Bruins and therefore I can say what I want, when I want without fear of losing my job, or being blacklisted by the team or what have you. Maybe some in the media in Boston have to keep that in the back of their minds. I don't know.

Dan (DKH) will tell you I had this phone conversation with him sometime last season (2014-2015). I told him then, watch out for Sinden and watch out for Neely. None of this cam out in the Boston media until this season.

When we were talking, Dan started about the Seguin trade and Chiarelli when I interrupted him and said "hold on a second Dan, it wasn't Chiarelli's choice to trade him, he was told to get the best deal possible for him." Dan was shocked but here we are today. I'm not about to say it was Neely, not about to say it was Sinden. But what we heard Neely say at the presser (despite KPD (?) saying Neely doesn't have to sign off on trades) he has the ability to stop trades. Not just Sweeney's, he had that right to stop Chiarelli's deals as well. It's the President's job. And as Dan has told us many times, he used that authority given to him under the NHL constitution to stop a Chiarelli deal with Arizona.

Those are facts. By Neely's own admission, despite what has been written in the papers, and what I have been trying to say here for over a year.

Here's how I see recent events. Neely met with JJ a week prior to the presser. IMO Neely was told last chance and thus JJ and Charlie basically came out and said the buck stops with Neely. It's on him. This set up Neely to be the fall guy next offseason if things don't improve.

My problem is that Neely acts on emotion. And if he could, he would blow things up out of haste. The Bruins need a calm, rational, level headed person with patience to see this through.

Enter Don Sweeney.

Sweeney is exactly that and he will keep Cam on a level keel. The problem is that it should be the other way around. Neely is the one who should be keeping things level headed.

Don't really care who reads this, I know someone in the Bruins organization will read this. Personally, I think Sweeney has been given the green light from JJ to do as he sees fit and that began with keeping Julien in place. But if that's not the case, then Neely will ultimately be released before Sweeney.

They made the bed. Neely is responsible for what happens. Now we wait for success, or the shoe to drop.
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I thought about this. I think Sweeney will outlast Neely if things go wrong. Maybe Neely bails before to long.
 
BNHL said:
So far,Seguin's a PPG player,hardly a franchise player and who said the trade wasn't forced by JJ?
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Do you taked a look at stats last years ?????
1 ppg is a franchise players in 2016 !!!!
Even crosby is a ppg players
Say what you want, you can deny reality, bruins got garbage for a franchise players of 21 years old
 
duffy said:
You are pretty spot on but what everyone is forgetting is the Jacobs love of money.
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This gets overblown to an extent around here.

Jacobs is worth $3.7 Billion. That's billion with a capital B

The Bruins in 2014-2015 had revenues of $158 Million. After expenses he was left with $26 Million. That's before taxes.

So for the playoff revenue, right off the top, 35% of revenues goes directly to revenue sharing to the bottom revenue teams. With the Bruins in the top 10 in revenue (they are fifth) that's an automatic. JJ loses that from the get go. From round two on, ALL advertising revenue goes directly to the league and not the team.

So while there is money to be made, especially for teams not in the top ten in revenue, the likes of Pittsburgh, Nashville, Minnesota, San Jose, Dallas, Anaheim, it's peanuts to JJ and his $3.7 billion
 
Mr. Make-Believe said:
I love it. He's obviously pissed that his Bruins aren't in the playoffs.

He wasn't going to play the game... I'm totally down with it.

I don't know if he's a good executive or not. Don't know enough about what he does. But I do appreciate that he's the one guy in that position who would care as much as I do about the Bruins. Pissed when they lose. Ecstatic when they win.
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I am with you on this one. I like having Cam as the president. He has passion and bleeds black and gold. I prefer that over some professional suit with standard answers.
 
GloryDaze4877 said:
Dom, two quick questions.

The B's had Savard's LTIR space to use even if they kept the contract, but every year, didn't they have to get down to the Cap number on opening day with Savard's salary reflected on that number...then they were allowed to exceed the Cap by his $4m, but not until the next day?

Couldn't that have been an issue?
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No not an issue. Chiarelli did it during his last season putting him on LTIR before the season. They had 3 options, two involved waiting for day one and one involves doing it the last day of camp.

And they could have done it this season as well. Enough bodies to send down to get under the cap. Not that they needed to because they were already under.

I don't think the intent was ever to use LTIR. As evidence by not putting Kelly on LTIR and using that money to improve.

So, they either misunderstood LTIR, or they were saving actual dollars. Had nothing to do with cap flexibility. I would definitely call Neely out on that.
 
Dom - OHL said:
No not an issue. Chiarelli did it during his last season putting him on LTIR before the season. They had 3 options, two involved waiting for day one and one involves doing it the last day of camp.

And they could have done it this season as well. Enough bodies to send down to get under the cap. Not that they needed to because they were already under.

I don't think the intent was ever to use LTIR. As evidence by not putting Kelly on LTIR and using that money to improve.

So, they either misunderstood LTIR, or they were saving actual dollars. Had nothing to do with cap flexibility. I would definitely call Neely out on that.
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Is it possible Cam would needed JJ's approval to spend that extra cash?
 
Dom - OHL said:
I will say this, then let you guys have your discussion. Everyone has the ability to make their own choices, so you can choose to believe what you want.

I have no ties to the Bruins and therefore I can say what I want, when I want without fear of losing my job, or being blacklisted by the team or what have you. Maybe some in the media in Boston have to keep that in the back of their minds. I don't know.

Dan (DKH) will tell you I had this phone conversation with him sometime last season (2014-2015). I told him then, watch out for Sinden and watch out for Neely. None of this cam out in the Boston media until this season.

When we were talking, Dan started about the Seguin trade and Chiarelli when I interrupted him and said "hold on a second Dan, it wasn't Chiarelli's choice to trade him, he was told to get the best deal possible for him." Dan was shocked but here we are today. I'm not about to say it was Neely, not about to say it was Sinden. But what we heard Neely say at the presser (despite KPD (?) saying Neely doesn't have to sign off on trades) he has the ability to stop trades. Not just Sweeney's, he had that right to stop Chiarelli's deals as well. It's the President's job. And as Dan has told us many times, he used that authority given to him under the NHL constitution to stop a Chiarelli deal with Arizona.

Those are facts. By Neely's own admission, despite what has been written in the papers, and what I have been trying to say here for over a year.

Here's how I see recent events. Neely met with JJ a week prior to the presser. IMO Neely was told last chance and thus JJ and Charlie basically came out and said the buck stops with Neely. It's on him. This set up Neely to be the fall guy next offseason if things don't improve.

My problem is that Neely acts on emotion. And if he could, he would blow things up out of haste. The Bruins need a calm, rational, level headed person with patience to see this through.

Enter Don Sweeney.

Sweeney is exactly that and he will keep Cam on a level keel. The problem is that it should be the other way around. Neely is the one who should be keeping things level headed.

Don't really care who reads this, I know someone in the Bruins organization will read this. Personally, I think Sweeney has been given the green light from JJ to do as he sees fit and that began with keeping Julien in place. But if that's not the case, then Neely will ultimately be released before Sweeney.

They made the bed. Neely is responsible for what happens. Now we wait for success, or the shoe to drop.
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Thank you, Dom. You make this board worth reading.
 
Therick67 said:
Is it possible Cam would needed JJ's approval to spend that extra cash?
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Possible. But that's not the point.

The point is that both Neely and Sweeney have mentioned that it got them cap flexibility on multiple occasions (re the Savard/Smith trade). I haven't heard JJ say that. I may have and forgotten. It's just not factual. The cap situation remains the same, only the dollars paid changed. I doubt JJ said no though. He allowed Chiarelli to use it any year he wanted to.

No one has asked them to explain this "cap flexibility" that trade (Savard) brought them.
 
My only big concern with all this and we'll see what the future brings is managerial style and emotional fortitude.

I dont care what business or vocation anyone is in , top leadership must have a constant.

He/she must have a passion for what they do. It must be evident to those within the company or group. It must be expressed in a way to gain collaboration and acceptance of the vision.
However, he/she must also have the counter balance to be steady, focused and outwardly calm under pressure. He/she must be able to keep control under bad times. Both professionally as well as personally.

As the top goes......so does the ranks.

So, while I understand his angst. While I truly appreciate his passion. Neely needs to realize, embrace and exude those attributes of a top manager.
 
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