WJC: Attendance
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SergeConstantin74
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Tickets were way too high. I didn't buy any because of that. 158$ for a ticket that cost me 80$ in NHL playoffs!
Montreal is a hockey town. People just don't want to spend 158$ on a single game for an upper bowl ticket.
Toronto has nearly twice the population...
Neate Sager @neatebuzzthenet · 60 min il y a 60 minutes
Again, as @jccollin7 pointed out: he paid $55 for 200 level for #CanVsUSA in Edmonton in 2012, $160 in Montreal in 2015.
With that kind of price, Montreal would have been sold out.
Montreal is a hockey town. People just don't want to spend 158$ on a single game for an upper bowl ticket.
Toronto has nearly twice the population...
Neate Sager @neatebuzzthenet · 60 min il y a 60 minutes
Again, as @jccollin7 pointed out: he paid $55 for 200 level for #CanVsUSA in Edmonton in 2012, $160 in Montreal in 2015.
With that kind of price, Montreal would have been sold out.
Montreal is definitely a hockey town. There are of course the 'casuals', the Habs fans, that represent more than half the population, but there is a solid core of hockey fans second to Toronto only in number.
Main factors:
- Someone mentioned politics. True that it has nothing to do, but having lived in both city I can assure you Torontonians are a billion times more patriotic than Montrealers, separatist or not.
- Disposable income + corporate presence. Montreal is POOR compared Toronto, and most of Canada really, but not compared to Europe.
- Population size. 7M GTA, 4M Montreal Area.
- Capacity (3000 more capacity at the Bell Centre). Having been to tons of events at both venues, the ACC feels small, and is easier to sell out.
All these factors explain the discrepancy between attendances, and none have anything to do with being a 'hockey town'. Plus we're used to quality hockey 41 home games a year
Main factors:
- Someone mentioned politics. True that it has nothing to do, but having lived in both city I can assure you Torontonians are a billion times more patriotic than Montrealers, separatist or not.
- Disposable income + corporate presence. Montreal is POOR compared Toronto, and most of Canada really, but not compared to Europe.
- Population size. 7M GTA, 4M Montreal Area.
- Capacity (3000 more capacity at the Bell Centre). Having been to tons of events at both venues, the ACC feels small, and is easier to sell out.
All these factors explain the discrepancy between attendances, and none have anything to do with being a 'hockey town'. Plus we're used to quality hockey 41 home games a year
Maybe Quebec just isn't a good international hockey market. Thats fine. Expensive seats and a lack of interest are a bad mix.
I think Quebec City had trouble selling tickets to the first World's in Canada a few year's ago too.
I am looking forward to the TO atmosphere tonight! Looks great on TV with the stands all red.
I think Quebec City had trouble selling tickets to the first World's in Canada a few year's ago too.
I am looking forward to the TO atmosphere tonight! Looks great on TV with the stands all red.
The Spaniard
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They don't have to be separatists. During Olympics francophone quebekers encourage quebekers. An unknown local guy who wins a bronze will get more hype then a canadian winning ten gold. And there is not many local guys to encourage on team canada since forever. Pretty sure it impacts quebekers interest for international hockey.
Could be. I hope they just put the tournament in TO for 2017. Purely for the TV atmosphere, if nothing else.
Novak Djokovic
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I don't know how he got it for $55. The Denmark-Canada game in Edmonton had a higher price although it was near the glass.
Alerion
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On topic. The time of the year the tourney is held, Halifax would sell more tickets than a hockey city like Montreal. When its the best thing to come along since sliced bread.
everyone overpaid when 35% tickets were in scalpers hands.
The Spaniard
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One =/= many
Two or three neither.
I wasn't speaking about this year specifically anyway. There was never many quebekers on the team (not arguing there should be more) and so we are not has passionate has the rest of Canada. Which I think impacts the interest for international hockey. Your interest wouldn't be the same if 90% of your team was American every year. Not saying it's right or wrong, just stating a fact that I think partially explains the attendances are lower then Toronto.
It's so obvious I'm surprised some are surprised.
SidGenoMario
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You're comparing the anglophone/francophone relationship to a Canadian/American relationship.
Are you sure you're not a separatist?
Canadian Finn
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Not a separatist but I agree most Quebecers (let's say a French-speaking non separatist) do not consider people from SK or MB as exactly the same as another Quebecer in terms of national identity/proximity. Not exactly US/Canada far but also not really Ontario/Manitoba close.
I guess Swiss and Belgians could relate.
Canadian Finn
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SidGenoMario
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That sounds like a separatist-line of thinking. We're all the same nationality. I don't cheer for a prairie boy more than a francophone.
Canadian Finn
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I don't either, but that's how it is for most people.
Also 'nationality' is complicated.
We're discussing why sales were not that good in Montreal. Nothing came out but potential factors. Having lived in both cities and having lived through a dumb referendum I feel more than qualified to do discuss this potential issue, even if I wish it was not one.
Canadian Finn
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You only are saying what I already said.
But when I said it (earlier today) my comment was deleted.
I agree with you.
But when I said it (earlier today) my comment was deleted.
I agree with you.
error # 1: market a 10 pack game option only for 2100$ each in mid level ticket
error# 2: do not allow single game option until it was to late
error# 3: take people for idiots
error# 4: GREED = HC + IIHF
add 30$ parking/overpriced water downed beer 10$ + crappy hockey for the most part of the tournament
error# 2: do not allow single game option until it was to late
error# 3: take people for idiots
error# 4: GREED = HC + IIHF
add 30$ parking/overpriced water downed beer 10$ + crappy hockey for the most part of the tournament
Well said and correct in my opinion, Montreal fans are more boisterous, fanatical more into it than Toronto fans who tend to keep it all in rather than let loose. I even agree with your last point.Montreal is definitely a hockey town. There are of course the 'casuals', the Habs fans, that represent more than half the population, but there is a solid core of hockey fans second to Toronto only in number.
Main factors:
- Someone mentioned politics. True that it has nothing to do, but having lived in both city I can assure you Torontonians are a billion times more patriotic than Montrealers, separatist or not.
- Disposable income + corporate presence. Montreal is POOR compared Toronto, and most of Canada really, but not compared to Europe.
- Population size. 7M GTA, 4M Montreal Area.
- Capacity (3000 more capacity at the Bell Centre). Having been to tons of events at both venues, the ACC feels small, and is easier to sell out.
All these factors explain the discrepancy between attendances, and none have anything to do with being a 'hockey town'. Plus we're used to quality hockey 41 home games a year
OilerPensfan97
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The group stage attendance will probably be even worse next time in Montreal, because Canada's pool will be in Toronto.
They should seriously consider a change of plans and replacing Montreal with Ottawa, where people will actually be into it.
They should seriously consider a change of plans and replacing Montreal with Ottawa, where people will actually be into it.
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