Novak Djokovic
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I was impressed with the attendance in Toronto for Denmark vs. Czech Republic. Montreal needs to step it up.
WJC: Attendance
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OilerPensfan97
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$1400 for three hockey games?! I would be mad too. That better include hotel and perhaps airfare too.
It's junior hockey. If you can't appreciate the talent of the best U20 hockey players, then by all means stick to the NHL. Calling it "crap" and "shinny" though…I'll put that down to having paid $1400 to see three hockey games.
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jcbio11
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Gotta say seeing the empty seats in Montreal is disappointing. Montreal was definitely not a good choice for the WJC.
Toronto's great though, plenty of people.
Toronto's great though, plenty of people.
RandR
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It absolutely is the problem.
I had thought of driving from Ottawa up to Montreal to see a game this past weekend with my son. So I went to the official site for tickets Official Ticket site,
picked a round-robin game (not involving Canada), and lo-and-behold the tickets were $43-143 each.
Sorry, those prices are ridiculous. Spending over $100 per seat to sit in the lower bowl is understandable these days for an NHL game at the Bell Centre, but not junior hockey. And I am not going to pay $40+ per ticket to sit in the upper deck, when I can pay half that or less to sit a few rows from the ice during any normal junior hockey game.
And not everybody knows about reseller sites and which can be trusted. Personally I am not prepared to take that kind of risk, and I know I am not alone in that.
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Stubhub is pretty mainstream these days and they provide a guarantee that the tickets are valid. There are some dodgy places to buy tickets, but I don't think that is one of them.
Maybe this has been said already... but whatever the reason, I think it's good for all of us that aren't Hockey Canada executives that the attendance is down.
It's ridiculous that the tournament has gotten too big for places like Halifax and even Winnipeg to host by themselves. Are we really just going to see them cycle through Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, and Calgary/Edmonton forever now? That would be terrible.
The crazy thing is, I remember in '99 in Winnipeg everyone raving about the attendance and how they really set the bar higher that year. It just kept going from there to the point that Winnipeg hardly even has a hope of hosting the tournament any time soon.
It's ridiculous that the tournament has gotten too big for places like Halifax and even Winnipeg to host by themselves. Are we really just going to see them cycle through Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, and Calgary/Edmonton forever now? That would be terrible.
The crazy thing is, I remember in '99 in Winnipeg everyone raving about the attendance and how they really set the bar higher that year. It just kept going from there to the point that Winnipeg hardly even has a hope of hosting the tournament any time soon.
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Attendance figures per team from the IIHF website
http://stats.iihf.com/Hydra/417/IHM417000_84_4_0.pdf
5 of the top 6 avg attendances are from teams playing in Toronto. The bottom 4 are all teams playing in Montreal.
Games with Switzerland and Russia have averaged higher attendance than games featuring Canada.
http://stats.iihf.com/Hydra/417/IHM417000_84_4_0.pdf
5 of the top 6 avg attendances are from teams playing in Toronto. The bottom 4 are all teams playing in Montreal.
Games with Switzerland and Russia have averaged higher attendance than games featuring Canada.
BenchBrawl
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I live in Montreal.I figured: "Let's go see a junior game this year , could be fun and should be affordable compared to habs games".Then I checked the prices.
They won't see the color of my money unless I can find an affordable USA-canada ticket , which seems unlikely now.
I can full my car about 5 times instead, or buy almost a month's worth of food.I don't understand how average joes keep buying tickets in this price range.
They won't see the color of my money unless I can find an affordable USA-canada ticket , which seems unlikely now.
I can full my car about 5 times instead, or buy almost a month's worth of food.I don't understand how average joes keep buying tickets in this price range.
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Attendance figures per team from the IIHF website
http://stats.iihf.com/Hydra/417/IHM417000_84_4_0.pdf
5 of the top 6 avg attendances are from teams playing in Toronto. The bottom 4 are all teams playing in Montreal.
Games with Switzerland and Russia have averaged higher attendance than games featuring Canada.
I assume the final two Canadian games should fix that, but it would be amazing if the home team did not have the highest attendance in the tournament following the preliminary round. That would be a first, I would guess.
BenchBrawl
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Given the price range the tickets are sold at, it should actually be a point of pride for any city to have ****** attendence.Teach them a lesson or something, this is just absurd.
Attendance figures per team from the IIHF website
http://stats.iihf.com/Hydra/417/IHM417000_84_4_0.pdf
5 of the top 6 avg attendances are from teams playing in Toronto. The bottom 4 are all teams playing in Montreal.
Games with Switzerland and Russia have averaged higher attendance than games featuring Canada.
This should prove to the media that Toronto is a hockey town whereas Montreal is Habs only.
People used to bring up bad OHL and AHL attendance in and around Toronto and said that Toronto is just a Leafs town but in reality the attendance is actually pretty darn good.
I don't think Canada has played a game yet at the ACC, they will likely get much more support there. I'm shocked at the bad attendance for USA, I thought people would love to see why Eichel is being compared to McDavid since most Canadians have not seen Eichel in a live game.
If I'm not mistaken they were expecting a sell-out for the Russia-Sweden game. ACC looks packed. Toronto has out shined Montreal by far this tournament. Montreal needs to step up. Bell Centre looks like a Florida Panthers game tonight with the US vs Slovakia.
They've overpriced the tickets by a long shot, and I've said it before that this tournament is way overhyped in terms of the quality of play. Its fun as an event, and the players take a lot of pride in their countries and play with a lot of emotion, but its not so much the product on the ice that makes this event.....its more the TSN promotion and the enthusiasm of the Canadian fans. There isn't a ton of interest in this event outside of Canada.
They shouldn't be charging more than NHL prices (above Montreal/Toronto NHL prices at that) when the Canadians aren't playing a marquee opponent. I don't think it necessarily reflects poorly on the host city's appetite for hockey, its a case of prices outstretching demand. At the right price (particularly ones more in line with other WJC events) and it would probably be more successful attendance wise.
They shouldn't be charging more than NHL prices (above Montreal/Toronto NHL prices at that) when the Canadians aren't playing a marquee opponent. I don't think it necessarily reflects poorly on the host city's appetite for hockey, its a case of prices outstretching demand. At the right price (particularly ones more in line with other WJC events) and it would probably be more successful attendance wise.
Montreal does not need to step up nothing
This all Hockey Canadas doing
you cant market 10 pack only tickets for ridiculous prices for months and then turn it around and make a fire sale..people have made other plans already
many people considered going to see a game or two and where turned off
I decided to jump in and have gone to 3 games so far and I will repeat it , the level of hockey in these preliminary rounds has been weak,.... calling it anything other than that is being delusional
apart from ridiculous pricing for tickets, food, parking etc,...HC jerseys (made in china/cheap) for 200$, cheap caps for 40$
HC has is all at fault here
This all Hockey Canadas doing
you cant market 10 pack only tickets for ridiculous prices for months and then turn it around and make a fire sale..people have made other plans already
many people considered going to see a game or two and where turned off
I decided to jump in and have gone to 3 games so far and I will repeat it , the level of hockey in these preliminary rounds has been weak,.... calling it anything other than that is being delusional
apart from ridiculous pricing for tickets, food, parking etc,...HC jerseys (made in china/cheap) for 200$, cheap caps for 40$
HC has is all at fault here
This is completely true. Obviously from the teams I'm about to list I'm more interested in seeing the actual hockey and don't care about seeing top-tier matchups, but I went to Denmark/Russia, Sweden/Denmark, Czech/Swiss and have tickets to Denmark/Swiss tomorrow - total cost for 14 tickets to those games (all lower bowl) was about $210.
Cheapest tickets I saw on SH for this Russia/Sweden game was about $50, which seems reasonable for two good teams, at least from my perspective.
Also do people really not trust Stubhub nowadays? That baffles me.
High prices or not the U.S-Slovakia game looks almost empty..not every seat in the arena is that expensive. Now you're mentioning prices for HC gear..like that has anything to do with anything. Food and parking prices are issues in Toronto too and yet we had two very good attended games today at the ACC( one being a sell-out or close to it)..hmmm Hopefully the Montreal faithful have a better showing for Canada tonight
SillyRabbit
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There's no question that the Canada games will be well attended.
But the empty seats for other teams are on the organizers who decided to jack up ticket prices.
It doesn't make the fans looks bad, it makes the money grabbing organizers look bad.
I guess there is also a wealth gap between Montreal and Toronto. Whereas Toronto is wealthier and has more corporations and rich individuals willing and able to spend prime money on sports, in Montreal, once the government has taken it's taxes and the habs tickets have been paid, the disposable income devoted to sports left is thin...
Montréal is a lousy sports town (see expos playing in empty stadium, multiple junior teams failing) but usually though, Montreal do show up for "happenings", short term with high media attention like WJC should have been. (even though round robin is less exciting.) so the blame lays on the organization who priced the event too high for the market and failed to create suffisant buzz around the event. The medal round should do better in 2017 unless the organizers shoots themselves in the foot again.
So basically, when you grossly overprice glorified junior hockey in a poorer city which has a poor junior support track record, this is what happens.
Montréal is a lousy sports town (see expos playing in empty stadium, multiple junior teams failing) but usually though, Montreal do show up for "happenings", short term with high media attention like WJC should have been. (even though round robin is less exciting.) so the blame lays on the organization who priced the event too high for the market and failed to create suffisant buzz around the event. The medal round should do better in 2017 unless the organizers shoots themselves in the foot again.
So basically, when you grossly overprice glorified junior hockey in a poorer city which has a poor junior support track record, this is what happens.
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I hope this acts as a correction point for Hockey Canada and the IIHF.
They priced themselves out, and the proof is in those pictures. I do not blame people in either city and especially not Montreal for this. In fact, it is about time people drew a line in the sand. Maybe regular people will be able to go to the next set of games in Canada.
They priced themselves out, and the proof is in those pictures. I do not blame people in either city and especially not Montreal for this. In fact, it is about time people drew a line in the sand. Maybe regular people will be able to go to the next set of games in Canada.
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