Atlantic Standings Predictions Thread
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NyQuil
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It's pre-season. They take guys out for precautionary reasons.
Does okay mean cleared to play for the opener? legit question. Or is okay mean they miss a week or two tops.
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Well, if you have GM Steve Staios' number I guess you can ask for clarification.
Personally I don't think he'd say "they're ok" if they were going to be out for a couple of weeks.
In pre-season to date, every time an Ottawa player has shown any kind of health issue, no matter how minor, they get pulled from the game for precautionary reasons. They don't end up missing any time.
So most Sens fans were willing to wait and see rather than panic unnecessarily because it's consistent with what they've been doing all pre-season long.
Lucy is Boston, the football represents the Bruins downfall, and all the this-is-the-year-they-miss-the-playoffs commentators are Charlie Brown.
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Toronto, sadly, is probably going to, but Ottawa is going down with us, at the bottom of the division
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I think I already posted my predictions in here and had Florida out front but as of now, I think Toronto is gonna win this division. I like the Berube hire and their d looks a lot better.
I also want to say as a Habs fan I strongly dislike all the other teams in this division except Detroit.
I also want to say as a Habs fan I strongly dislike all the other teams in this division except Detroit.
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This is year 5 under Adams. Not year 3. Kevyn Adams is the one who failed to extend Ullmark and Reinhart more than 1 season, and then finished in last place. Losing Ullmark for nothing, and then trading away Eichel, Reinhart, Risto, Montour, E-Rod, etc.
2 first overalls: Dahlin, Power and 2 second overalls: Reinhart, Eichel. Two of those guys have left Buffalo and won a cup.
In 13 cracks at the lottery the Sabres have never moved up a spot.
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Ottawa and Detroit are tied for the most cumulative spots dropped in the lottery in the NHL.
The Management
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How has Josh Norris looked this preseason? His father (Dwayne) was born in Newfoundland. I've been rooting for him.
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They're like 1 spot ahead of the Sabres. And a lot of it has to do with the changing rules of the lottery and the timing of their tank seasons.
The Sabres misery began earlier, back when there was only 1 lottery position, rather than 3 during the height of Detroit and Ottawas tanks, or 2 as it is now.
It's not a surprise that 2 of the tankiest teams during the time of the worst lottery odds for tanking dropped the most cumulative spots in the lottery.
NyQuil
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You're just not going to get a lot of sympathy from either Ottawa or Detroit with our combined 0 1st and 2nd overall picks.
Slow but signs of life.
In the last game against Montreal, he looked more like his old self as the game went on, driving the net in a manner that was more reminiscent of his pre-injury play.
When he has come back over the past couple of seasons from injury, he's appeared a bit passive and cautious in terms of battling for the puck and going into the danger areas.
Hopefully it's a good sign, but the jury isn't out yet.
He's shot the puck a fair amount but his aim seems to still be a bit rusty.
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Would you like to extend your playoff drought for an additional 6 years and finish in last place 4 of those years in order to get those 2x 1st OA and 2x 2nd OA?
Didn't think so.
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Golden_Jet
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Those 2 teams have finished last and second last, and always get bumped down.
So likely would never happen getting first or second.
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So try finishing last 4 times instead of once? And don't trade out of the pick?(Ottawa)
Golden_Jet
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Buffalo , NJ, NYR and Edmonton have dominated the lottery wins.
Don’t even know why you’re debating this lol
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The Sabres have 2 lottery wins from 4 last place finishes out of a 13 year playoff drought. And they've never moved up a spot. Not really sure why you're debating this.
Not sure how that's "dominating" the lottery wins.
Golden_Jet
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Not in 2014 or 2015 when the Sabres did it. Those were both lottery losses where the Sabres moved back a spot.
Golden_Jet
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Moving back to second is still a lottery win.
There used to be 3 lottery wins, now there is 2.
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No. There was 1 lottery spot prior to 2016. The 3 lottery spots only existed from 2016-2021
2015 and prior only had 1 lottery spot
2016-2021 had 3
2022-current has 2
Educate yourself:
NHL entry draft - Wikipedia
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A couple of years ago I redid the final standings, using a couple of different scoring methods:
1 - the original - 2 for a win, 1 for a tie, 0 for a loss
2 - no shootout - 2 for a win, 1 for an OT loss or a tie, 0 for a reg loss
3 - the current - 2 for a win, 1 for an OT or SO loss, 0 for a reg loss
4 - soccer/euro - 3 for a reg win, 2 for an OT or SO win, 1 for an OT or SO loss, 0 for a reg loss.
Obviously some had higher totals (method 1 each game is worth 2 points, methods 2 and 3 each game is worth either 2 or 3 points, and method 4 each game is worth 3 points), but there was minimal change in the actual standings.
If I recall correctly, there were three or four times where two teams switched position, but no team went up or down by more than one spot. Only once, comparing all four scenarios, did the different scoring make a change in a team making or not making the playoffs.
The results may be different if I did the same for last year, but I don't think by much - the results from all four methods were surprisingly similar.
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