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Red Sox/MLB Atlanta’s Chris Sale wins the National League Cy Young Award
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Chevalier du Clavier
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McGarnagle
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That's a package you give up for Pedro in 1998 or Halladay in 2009. I'm not convinced Crochet is at that level.
Why not just sign Fried and save your prospects. Hell, sign your ace pitchers because most of them at least already have their TJS out of the way and you won't lose a year (though ironically in this case Crochet already has too)
N o o d l e s
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There’s a 90% chance that May and Glasnow will be out for the season by August
Love Crochet a lot and would be extremely interested but he’s only been a starter for 1 season and has had serious injury issues in the past
GatorMike
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Robot umps can't come fast enough.
Sox gave up two great prospects in Moncada and Kopech to get Chris Sale.
And we got Grissom ( jury is still out on him) when we traded him to Atlanta.
That was a great trade for us as he was a legit number one starter when we acquired him and he helped us win a WS.
Crochet is not a proven number one yet, due to lack of innings pitched. He has very low mileage on his arm, which is good.
If I am making a trade to get him, I deal someone like Crawford, Gonzalez, one of Arias or Romero and throw in someone else.
No way I am trading Mayer in the deal or any of our top 4 prospects.
If we are trading one of Mayer/Teel/Anthony/Campbell I want an everyday player in return, not a pitcher that "could" be a number one someday.
EverettMike
FIRE DON SWEENEY INTO THE SUN
If they trade Mayer they better be f***ing positive he'll never be a star. If he is there's almost no pitcher they can trade him for that'll be worth it considering pitchers can't stay healthy anymore.
Therick67
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It would be so red Sox to piss away seasons waiting for prospects to develop, only to then trade them...
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The Dodgers have an opening in RF. Hmm ... wonder who they will pursue?
Crochet is legit. Ace stuff and low mileage. Sure he had TJ surgery. Big deal. You’re not getting him without giving up one of your top prospects. I’d make that deal in a heartbeat. He’s that good and he and Fried are the only 2 lefties that are legit top of the rotation guys. Maybe Snell too, but he throws a lot of pitches and doesn’t go deep in games.
As far as righties go, I don’t get the love affair with Flaherty. Way too inconsistent and I think that most of it is mental. He’ll frustrate the shit out of whoever signs him.
As far as righties go, I don’t get the love affair with Flaherty. Way too inconsistent and I think that most of it is mental. He’ll frustrate the shit out of whoever signs him.
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Dave Dombrowski traded touted prospects for established studs like it was nobody's business, and of all the deals he made, 95% of the prospects he gave up never became shit in the majors. But that might say more about the state of the Red Sox prospect pool in the mid to late 2010s. The big four we have now are better than anyone in the system in 2016 IMO (including Moncada).
I think there's a time to sit on your prospects and a time to go for it, but I don't think the 2025 Red Sox are a Crochet away from winning a World Series right now enough to justify losing Marcelo Mayer.
I think there's a time to sit on your prospects and a time to go for it, but I don't think the 2025 Red Sox are a Crochet away from winning a World Series right now enough to justify losing Marcelo Mayer.
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Boras is telling clubs that Bregman is willing to switch to 2B. Seems unwise since he's one of the best defensive 3B in the game, but I guess his arm strength is due for a decline as he ages.
That would fill a hole for us and solve the issue of what to do with Devers. Though having a GG 3B at 2B to keep a below average 3B in the field and a shitty outfielder at DH would be an odd situation.
That would fill a hole for us and solve the issue of what to do with Devers. Though having a GG 3B at 2B to keep a below average 3B in the field and a shitty outfielder at DH would be an odd situation.
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They missed out on him once, they shouldn't make that mistake again. Especially since he wanted to be here.
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I think we can lose one of the top 4/5 prospects, because whoever they get for him will still be here 3-5 years from now.
I definitely wouldn't be packaging 2/3 of their top 5 prospects for one guy though.
Man, to me Bregman makes so much sense. Move Devers to DH -- move Matsaka for RP help or prospects.
Duran
Bregman
Devers
Casas
Is a pretty legit top 4 in the order.
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This is said a lot, but I feel like the piece it misses is asset management. Let's say something costs you $150, but you get $200 of value out of it, that's a good deal, right? But what if I told you that you could have only paid $100 for it, so you lost out on an extra $50?
That's how I generally thought about Dombrowski deals. It wasn't so much that he was giving up great prospects that we'd regret trading, but that he could have been more efficient in how he used those assets and the team would have been better off. The margins of winning or losing a championship are so thin that you can't afford to waste assets, whether that's money, prospects, or roster players.
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Hard to believe this with Roman Anthony close and Abreu cheap and a decent player
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DKH
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I’m falling for it. I know. I know. But I’m excited for the first time since 2019 Spring
