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Dekes For Days said:
Yep. The biggest death sentence in the NHL is allocating significant money to middle tier complimentary players.
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Those signings on July 13th (Most anyways) wow! 4.5-5 for 3rd liners? 5 million for 3rd pair Ds? And i have to hear about Mitch Marner making 10.9?
 
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I do not see how that is exactly a surprise.

The collective overpayments on this roster barely exceeds some of the pure dead money that most teams have right now... Never mind the overpayments that literally every roster has (except it is usually more with mediocre depth guys than guys who are actually playing key roles).
 
I feel like the NHL as a whole is still a few years away from realizing that investing any significant $ in UFA to a player that isn't star caliber or a specialist of some sort (faceoff/pk) is a waste of resources. There are plenty of cheap options that could fill those bottom 6 roles quite adequately, they're just not given proper opportunity.
 
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No kiss of death for these teams with these reduced return on investments:

2022 Colorado: Erik Johnson ($6M), Jack Johnson ($3.25M), J.T. Compher ($3.5M)
2020, 2021 Tampa Bay: Tyler Johnson ($5M), Yanni Gourde ($5.2M)
2019 St. Louis: Bouwmeester ($5.4M), Alex Steen ($5.75M)
 
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NoTeeth said:
Leafs are 3rd in contract values.
The issue with every team seems to be overpaying support talent and not young stars.
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I don't disagree. It is common knowledge that the elite are so good that the rest of the league are below average.
 
MAB1 said:
I feel like the NHL as a whole is still a few years away from realizing that investing any significant $ in UFA to a player that isn't star caliber or a specialist of some sort (faceoff/pk) is a waste of resources. There are plenty of cheap options that could fill those bottom 6 roles quite adequately, they're just not given proper opportunity.
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Cheap bottom 6 guys are the easiest to find. They are everywhere every offseason. I don't get why any GM would give 3-4 million to a 4th liner,.
 
NoTeeth said:
Cheap bottom 6 guys are the easiest to find. They are everywhere every offseason. I don't get why any GM would give 3-4 million to a 4th liner,.
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Any examples?

Tarmore said:
I guess that didn't work out as expected for you.

Matthewes A+
Marner A
Nylander B
Tavares C+

How does Geordano only get an A and not an A+???
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Did they expand on why Nylander is a 'B'?
I always thought the impression was he outperforms his contract.
 
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justashadowof said:
No kiss of death for these teams with these reduced return on investments:

2022 Colorado: Erik Johnson ($6M), Jack Johnson ($3.25M), J.T. Compher ($3.5M)
2020, 2021 Tampa Bay: Tyler Johnson ($5M), Yanni Gourde ($5.2M)
2019 St. Louis: Bouwmeester ($5.4M), Alex Steen ($5.75M)
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You missed the point, but yes, all teams (including winning teams) have players that underperform their contracts. Which really puts into perspective all the ridiculous complaining about our players that outperform their contracts.
 
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Without reading the article I wouldn’t be surprised if this formula was based on the Top 4 basically producing at a high clip mixed in with a Michael Bunting. The Leaf standings and value rankings are similar.

That said, what we need to get the team to the next level is actually another contract that far outperforms it’s AAV. If Colorado and Florida ranked above us it’s because they each had their number one scoring forward playing at a $5-6 million range.
 
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Dom uses a mathematic model that determines the scores of his charts. The grading is not his personal opinion. Just clarifying if anyone is curious. He will put disclaimers that he sometimes disagrees with results, they are being processed via fancystats that he then analyzes.
 
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Stephen said:
Without reading the article I wouldn’t be surprised if this formula was based on the Top 4 basically producing at a high clip mixed in with a Michael Bunting. The Leaf standings and value rankings are similar.

That said, what we need to get the team to the next level is actually another contract that far outperforms it’s AAV. If Colorado and Florida ranked above us it’s because they each had their number one scoring forward playing at a $5-6 million range.
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Same here - have not read it but really its a team goal scoring stat. Fla/Tor/Avs were 1st 2nd and 4th in goals for. Avs probably bump Leafs out of 2nd because they did not spend to cap last year. You do all theses stats at the player level production per contract cost etc and then aggregate for the team stat. If you take goals scored by team over salary cap of team you will probably get a similar team ranking. Doesn't make for much of an article if you do that though.
 
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