Athletic: Dubas Job on the Line this Season (contract expiring after this season)

[All Mod Cons]

I can't imagine another franchise will give dubas a 105 point team with a matthews, marner and a Nylander level talents.

Even with that kind of awesome start, dubas has zero playoff series wins after 4 years.

He may be hired as a scout but even that I have my doubts about.

Marc Bergevin was scooped up quickly.

 

[rocketman588]

Marc Bergevin was scooped up quickly.

He's not the GM

He's basically what Pierre McGuire was to the Kings

I think dubas would be hired. I don't think it would be as a GM

 

[LeafEgo]

He's not the GM

He's basically what Pierre McGuire was to the Kings

I think dubas would be hired. I don't think it would be as a GM

I don't think teams would be scrambling for poor Dubie, but the fact that we haven't regressed (missed the playoffs), despite how hard that would have been to do, is probably enough for him to get another crack at it somewhere.

 

[The Masters]

Meh. Leafs core will attract all the bright minds to apply for the job faster than another team will scoop Dubas. Dont fall for the fear media is stirring

nah im not it will happen. nhl gm's are average. thats just the market place.

 

[TheRumble]

Dubas if let go will definitely be snatched up by an NHL team. The Leafs got screwed over by the COVID cap moreso than any other team in the NHL and Dubas managed to get a team that was already pretty good on paper to improve year after year with mostly players on minimum salaries being added to the squad.

There are a lot of teams with internal caps in the NHL and are on a budget that would love to have a GM like that.

People here are dumb, they don't know how hockey or sports work at the executive level.

 

[The Masters]

What do you call inheriting a 105 point team with elite, young talent and loads of cap space but have exactly zero series wins after 4 years of being gm?

I'd say that gm isn't very good at their job.

Also, this market praises dubas despite his record. The fact you think he gets "shi**ed" on shows your bias.

regular season success has been there but not the playoff success. he's failed in that aspect. my point is, he's above average when it comes to the rest of the managers in the league since they arent particulary any good. not biased just calling it as i see it. he'll get hired as an AGM at the very least if we dont bring him back.

 

[Havoc]

Dubas if let go will definitely be snatched up by an NHL team. The Leafs got screwed over by the COVID cap moreso than any other team in the NHL and Dubas managed to get a team that was already pretty good on paper to improve year after year with mostly players on minimum salaries being added to the squad.

There are a lot of teams with internal caps in the NHL and are on a budget that would love to have a GM like that.

People here are dumb, they don't know how hockey or sports work at the executive level.

Everyone knows he will be snatched up quickly, we just don't care. Our concern is the Leafs and we will remain contenders without him.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Everyone knows he will be snatched up quickly, we just don't care. Our concern is the Leafs and we will remain contenders without him.

Not everyone knows that, or at least, not everyone accepts that, but if he is not re-signed or if he leaves as a free agent, good luck to him. As you stated, our concern is the Leafs.

 

[Stamkos4life]

regular season success has been there but not the playoff success. he's failed in that aspect. my point is, he's above average when it comes to the rest of the managers in the league since they arent particulary any good. not biased just calling it as i see it. he'll get hired as an AGM at the very least if we dont bring him back.

I honestly think if you gave almost any other gm the team that dubas inherited, they would have at least one series win by now.

I've seen the dubas fan boys say that trading Kadri for barrie and kerfoot was a huge win for us.

They said keeping sparks over mcbackup was smart.

I constantly hear how good at drafting kyle is and yet we've had almost none of his picks turn into anything meaningful.

It's almost like dubas gets credit for things he doesn't deserve and then doesn't get blamed for things he deserves.

The media in Toronto loves dubas. He's treated like a genius despite having zero playoff success.

The NHL is a results oriented business. You don't get brownie points for trying hard or looking good.

There are a lot of people in the same boat. No worries.


Nah, if he doesn't get extended, gets fired, quits or leaves as a free agent, he will be an NHL GM.

Nah, maybe a scout but that's it.

You really think another franchise is going to look at the team dubas inherited, see that he has zero success after 4 years and want to give him the keys to their team?

 

[Leaf Fans]

I honestly think if you gave almost any other gm the team that dubas inherited, they would have at least one series win by now.

I've seen the dubas fan boys say that trading Kadri for barrie and kerfoot was a huge win for us.

They said keeping sparks over mcbackup was smart.

I constantly hear how good at drafting kyle is and yet we've had almost none of his picks turn into anything meaningful.

It's almost like dubas gets credit for things he doesn't deserve and then doesn't get blamed for things he deserves.

The media in Toronto loves dubas. He's treated like a genius despite having zero playoff success.

The NHL is a results oriented business. You don't get brownie points for trying hard or looking good.



Nah, maybe a scout but that's it.

You really think another franchise is going to look at the team dubas inherited, see that he has zero success after 4 years and want to give him the keys to their team?

He would, if he left the Leafs, easilly be a GM for another NHL team.

 

[ToneDog]

He would, if he left the Leafs, easilly be a GM for another NHL team.

Riiddle me this. What happens when Dubas goes to an owner like Melnyk and says he wants to fire the coach who disagrees with his vision, and it will cost him $20m ??

 

[Leaf Fans]

Riiddle me this. What happens when Dubas goes to an owner like Melnyk and says he wants to fire the coach who disagrees with his vision, and it will cost him $20m ??

Simmiler to when Shanny fired Babcock?
Here is the riddle:
Only one color, but not one size, Stuck at the bottom, yet easily flies. Present in sun, but not in rain, Doing no harm and feeling no pain. What is it?

 

[zeke]

Riiddle me this. What happens when Dubas goes to an owner like Melnyk and says he wants to fire the coach who disagrees with his vision, and it will cost him $20m ??

What GM never gets a chance to hire his own coach? And then fire and hire another?

 

[hotpaws]

What GM never gets a chance to hire his own coach? And then fire and hire another?

the guy in Minny that got turfed after 1 season

 

[Gary Nylund]

I honestly think if you gave almost any other gm the team that dubas inherited, they would have at least one series win by now.

I've seen the dubas fan boys say that trading Kadri for barrie and kerfoot was a huge win for us.

They said keeping sparks over mcbackup was smart.

I constantly hear how good at drafting kyle is and yet we've had almost none of his picks turn into anything meaningful.

It's almost like dubas gets credit for things he doesn't deserve and then doesn't get blamed for things he deserves.

The media in Toronto loves dubas. He's treated like a genius despite having zero playoff success.

The NHL is a results oriented business. You don't get brownie points for trying hard or looking good.



Nah, maybe a scout but that's it.

You really think another franchise is going to look at the team dubas inherited, see that he has zero success after 4 years and want to give him the keys to their team?

It feels like you've posted this a thousand times already. Change a word here and there but overall, same old, same old. Don't you ever get tired? Are you going to post this same drivel another thousand times before we hit the halfway mark of the season?

Just curious ...

 

[rocketman588]

What GM never gets a chance to hire his own coach? And then fire and hire another?

What other GM has had the opportunity to pay 3 players top 10 salaries in the league and then never gotten out of the first round?

He's had every advantage and resource possible handed to him.

Not many NHL teams can give what he was given by mlse resource wise

 

[ToneDog]

What GM never gets a chance to hire his own coach? And then fire and hire another?

Yup Shanny blew it when he hired a GM who's vision went against his chosen coach that he signed for term and dollars. So if Shanny went to Melnyk and said we have to fire Babs because he is like oil and vinegar with the new GM and you will have to eat $20m, does he fire Babs, Shanny or the GM ?? I know who I fire.

 

[zeke]

Yup Shanny blew it when he hired a GM who's vision went against his chosen coach that he signed for term and dollars. So if Shanny went to Melnyk and said we have to fire Babs because he is like oil and vinegar with the new GM and you will have to eat $20m, does he fire Babs, Shanny or the GM ?? I know who I fire.

absolutely blew it with the Babcock contract, agreed.

 

[Stamkos4life]

He would, if he left the Leafs, easilly be a GM for another NHL team.

Nope.

No owner is going to give dubas the starting advantage he had when he took over as gm of the leafs.

If he can't accomplish anything with the kind of head start he got here, there isn't much hope with him taking over a bottom team.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Riiddle me this. What happens when Dubas goes to an owner like Melnyk and says he wants to fire the coach who disagrees with his vision, and it will cost him $20m ??

I'd probably pay a few bucks to watch a GM talk to a dead owner.

It feels like you've posted this a thousand times already. Change a word here and there but overall, same old, same old. Don't you ever get tired? Are you going to post this same drivel another thousand times before we hit the halfway mark of the season?

Just curious ...

Pay no mind, he's a Tampa fan. No self-respecting Leafs fans would ever go on a Leafs forum as (opposing player)-4-life. What's next, a Marchand-4-life showing up here?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Riiddle me this. What happens when Dubas goes to an owner like Melnyk and says he wants to fire the coach who disagrees with his vision, and it will cost him $20m ??

When is Dubas going to do this, try and resurrect him from his grave.
RIP.

 

[notbias]

You really think another franchise is going to look at the team dubas inherited, see that he has zero success after 4 years and want to give him the keys to their team?

Want an honest answer? Yes, because they are not idiots like a loud minority of our fanbase.

The team had zero success before him too, was he given this amazing group of players or do playoffs matter? This never makes sense to me.

"Results matter!"... "Look at the players he inherited, forget that they didn't have results before him"

 

[Leaf Fans]

Nope.

No owner is going to give dubas the starting advantage he had when he took over as gm of the leafs.

If he can't accomplish anything with the kind of head start he got here, there isn't much hope with him taking over a bottom team.

Sure they would.

 

[ToneDog]

I'd probably pay a few bucks to watch a GM talk to a dead owner.

Pay no mind, he's a Tampa fan. No self-respecting Leafs fans would ever go on a Leafs forum as (opposing player)-4-life. What's next, a Marchand-4-life showing up here?

When is Dubas going to do this, try and resurrect him from his grave.
RIP.

When I said "an owner like Melnyk", I meant cheap, not dead.

 

[The Masters]

I honestly think if you gave almost any other gm the team that dubas inherited, they would have at least one series win by now.

I've seen the dubas fan boys say that trading Kadri for barrie and kerfoot was a huge win for us.

They said keeping sparks over mcbackup was smart.

I constantly hear how good at drafting kyle is and yet we've had almost none of his picks turn into anything meaningful.

It's almost like dubas gets credit for things he doesn't deserve and then doesn't get blamed for things he deserves.

The media in Toronto loves dubas. He's treated like a genius despite having zero playoff success.

The NHL is a results oriented business. You don't get brownie points for trying hard or looking good.

again, he will get another shot purely based on the lack of intelligent gm's in the league. There arent many. The team hasnt had playoff success but the team is performing well enough for the RS and lots of owners would take that any day of the week.