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tinyzombies
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VanIslander
20 years of All-Time Drafts on HfBoards
BraveCanadian
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jigglysquishy
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That Crosby's 2010-11 season gets adjusted to the fourth highest HockeyRef goal season ever says everything you need to know about the methodology present.
tinyzombies
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Idea for an offseason draft - how about Post-2005 Lockout draft, but only for players that have career-worthy numbers. Their careers could have started pre-2005? Too boring?
VanIslander
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A post-lockout PRODUCTION only draft would be too stats heavy;
How about another "Era-draft" with a hard line of eligibility. An arbitrary elegant "anyone who started their NHL career after December 31st, 1999: a totally 21st Century Draft); or, an all-time draft that MUST include from this century: 1. a top-6 line, and either a 2a) bottom-6 line or 2b) defensive pairing plus either a 3a) starting G or 3b)coach.
Basically, a draft with hard and fast and ideally elegant rules, whatever happens!
Why not a QUARTER CENTURY TEAM? It'd take us from 1999 to today! It's a History board thread away from happening anyways! (Or... wait for the spring/summer of 2025 for that).
It's a summer project worthy thing! If 4 are willing... any history draft should be able to launch on this board, based on precedent.
The fall season may see the 2024 MLD, OPPF or ATD Redux.
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BenchBrawl
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I'd be down for either OPPF or Pre-Consolidation Draft, but not right now. More like in October when the cold breeze comes back and hockey season is starting.
seventieslord
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It says that they assumed partial season paces were maintained over full seasons, but that's all it says, I think.
tinyzombies
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Er. I liked the above before reading it.
Sundin is so under referenced historically.
I went to games often during my 3rd year of grad school (research at the great UofT library) and he was CLEARLY the best, 2nd or 3rd best skater every time he was on the ice. It was OBVIOUS!
I recall one game where Sundin and Belfour were the three stars of the game. The TV crew refused to give a third star. It was noted on the 11pm news by Squire Barnes of BCTV (now Telus? ... no, that other Albertan company? er... oh, yeah, it went "Global").
Sundin was wasted in Toronto.
GMs and owners ought to be ashamed.
Sundin is so under referenced historically.
I went to games often during my 3rd year of grad school (research at the great UofT library) and he was CLEARLY the best, 2nd or 3rd best skater every time he was on the ice. It was OBVIOUS!
I recall one game where Sundin and Belfour were the three stars of the game. The TV crew refused to give a third star. It was noted on the 11pm news by Squire Barnes of BCTV (now Telus? ... no, that other Albertan company? er... oh, yeah, it went "Global").
Sundin was wasted in Toronto.
GMs and owners ought to be ashamed.
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tinyzombies
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BraveCanadian
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These just get worse and worse
tinyzombies
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Well only 1/3 of the league played systems until Gretzky came along so it stands to reason Mario had a tougher league to play against- thanks to Gretzky
BraveCanadian
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Nope.
Really bored of the argument that the league was bad right up until Mario hit his stride.. can't even be bothered doing it again. Sorry, the league didn't change much in 4 years.
Seeing Lemieux's age 30 season as the best out of these two players should be a very obvious clue that these adjustments are garbage.
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tinyzombies
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Bored or not, Gretzky and Bowman both said most teams were not playing systems until Gretzky came along. Then the league became a snoozefest of traps for awhile. I'm not vouching for this guy's adjustment formula, but I'm taking that as a fact if those two are saying it. And I actually stopped watching hockey for a few years because of the trap- it was so boring.
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tinyzombies
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Rocket on the state of hockey in 1976.
Professor What
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So, we're wrapping up the ATD. Thought it might be a good time to put out another feeler to see if there's any growing interest in a project. I'm still willing to help administrate it.
jigglysquishy
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I'm very interested in a project. We skipped 23-24 and I don't think we should skip 24-25.
Professor What
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It's definitely been too long. We need to nail down what it's going to be. This time, we need to make up our minds and run with it. We don't need to have so much "no this, no this."
It’s time to start re-doing the positional lists.
I’d be interested in the women’s hockey project as well, but I think we would hit serious issues with participation.
I’d be interested in the women’s hockey project as well, but I think we would hit serious issues with participation.
Professor What
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I agree on both accounts. Which positional list should we do? The defensemen project is the oldest, but the centers may have seen the most movement, and of course, it includes McDavid.
I’d like to start in goal and work out over the years. It’s been over ten years, there should be some decent movement.
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