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ATD 2022 DRAFT THREAD I

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Time sure does fly. I remember picking Crosby in the 3rd round and thought he was great value a few years back. Now he's never leaving the 1st round again.
 
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Thank you thank you thank you.

I would have had to trade down instead of up if Crosby was available (lifelong Caps fan ie., Pens hater).
 
Crosby was the other guy I thought about picking in addition to Richard, Hull and Potvin. It came close between him and Richard last night when I made the pick. Great pick @nabby12
 
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Interesting analysis IE.
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I've seen the "Shore dragged Boston around" narrative before and I simply can't ignore it. While, yes, he was the primary offensive catalyst, especially before another HOF player moved to the back end, my issue arises with comparisons to Bourque and those Bruins teams from the 80's/90's which were absolutely handicapped vs multiple teams throughout that timeframe.

Shore's Bruins were either the best team, top to bottom, or right there from 29 to 39, especially when you consider they had a HOF netminder for the overwhelming majority of Shore's career, something other players didn't enjoy.

Shore was the overwhelming best player on those Boston teams, absolutely, but those Boston teams were very, good, and deep. I don't think there is an argument to be made that they lived up to the hype in the postseason based on the talent they had. That DOESN'T mean Shore was subpar.

And at the end of the day, I still love the Shore pick for Dreak. Let that be very clear. My reasoning for going Potvin over Shore was largely born out of Potvin having fewer warts IMO, even though, I think you can certainly put Shore a few spots above Potvin in an all time sens and most people do, including myself. And that ranking is largely tied to the Hart's and retro Norris's, though as I (and many others) have correctly pointed out, came during a timeframe that saw a league deprived of top talent, relative to any other era in hockey history. I don't think that is debatable. The Hart voting from 1933/34 through the end of the decade is quite weak compared to the O6 era, 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's, 2010's, when you look at the names on the voting rolls.
 
Looks like this trade isn't happening, well, I could either take someone I've picked before but not at all how I'd like the team to go (and still early), or pick a couple of guys that I think certainly belong at 14 if not earlier, but would definitely be considered "off the board" by the group and would rather trade for picks to get them later, so for now I'll take Howie Morenz, I had a plan for him in the Redux draft (if we had done the second one), but not really on this team, but let's see how it goes. He is still on the trading block of course lol
 
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tabness said:
Looks like this trade isn't happening, well, I could either take someone I've picked before but not at all how I'd like the team to go (and still early), or pick a couple of guys that I think certainly belong at 14 if not earlier, but would definitely be considered "off the board" by the group and would rather trade for picks to get them later, so for now I'll take Howie Morenz, I had a plan for him in the Redux draft (if we had done the second one), but not really on this team, but let's see how it goes. He is still on the trading block of course lol
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Great! Here's the other great superstar from the late 1920s-1930s constantly underranked in the ATD. Here just after Crosby it's a sweet spot for him.
 
tabness said:
Looks like this trade isn't happening, well, I could either take someone I've picked before but not at all how I'd like the team to go (and still early), or pick a couple of guys that I think certainly belong at 14 if not earlier, but would definitely be considered "off the board" by the group and would rather trade for picks to get them later, so for now I'll take Howie Morenz, I had a plan for him in the Redux draft (if we had done the second one), but not really on this team, but let's see how it goes. He is still on the trading block of course lol
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For whatever it is worth, Morenz would have been my pick here as well; best C available, with the next couple guys not on the same tier (in my opinion).
 
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So I really wanted to get out of always having to pick in later in the round (seems to be my place in every draft, main or not lol), but had I had to keep it, I wanted Potvin. Of course he got scooped, so then I figured, Maurice Richard fits in well enough on the plan, but he got taken, and then even Shore got taken who I would have taken had he been available otherwise. I don't think I'm in the place to get the winger I would have wanted for Morenz, but of course, trades exist lol
 
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There hasn't been a single pick that you scratch your head on. Obviously that doesn't happen too often in the top 15 but we've seen some from time to time. Great start for everyone to this point.
 
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The Admirals welcome Howie Morenz via trade and select Red Kelly, the 3-time Hart trophy finalist, 8-time Stanley Cup champion.

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Not only was Red Kelly a good pick, he was the obvious pick. Also, thankful that I wasn’t “forced” to pick him again. In a vacuum better than Potvin overall, although I understand why Potvin gets picked ahead of him regularly.

Edit: One of my more favorite trivia question answers...Kelly has the most Cups without having played for Montreal: 8
 
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This would not be my pick if I wasn't up again in 4 picks, but he seems like the obvious choice, as I have a gap between him and the next guy at his position. Also, I've never drafted him before!!!

Chicago selects...Slava Fetisov, D

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I definitely think that was the smart move in that spot. I think there was less wiggle room there than for any other position.
 
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Some quick hits on Fetisov, credit to @Dreakmur

USSR MVP voting - 1st(1982), 1st(1986), 2nd(1985), 2nd(1988), 3rd(1978), 3rd(1984), 3rd(1989), 4th(1983), 5th(1987)
Canada Cup All-Star (1987)
5 x IIHF Best Defenseman (1978, 1982, 1985, 1986, 1989)
Canada Cup Points among Defensemen - 2nd(1981), 2nd(1987)
9 x USSR First Team All-Star (1979, 1980, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988)

Joe Pelletier
Fetisov had few peers, be it in international hockey or the NHL. He possessed exceptional mobility and instincts, both offensively and defensively. He was always in perfect position defensively, though never shied from taking offensive chances. He was also a hard hitting and mean spirited defender, setting him apart from most international players of his day. The 6'1", 215 pound blue liner was among the biggest and best-conditioned hockey players in the world. He loved physical contact, setting him apart from others and earned the grudging admiration of even the bitterest rivals.

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Potvin of course is one of the greatest Canadian defensemen of all time. Though Fetisov was often dubbed "The Bobby Orr of Russia," the Potvin comparison is bang on. They played very similar styles, and excelled so greatly, that it is impossible to rate one ahead of the other.
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Remember: Gretzky said Fetisov was the best defenseman he ever faced.

Lemieux has undressed Bourque multiple times.

Fetisov may be a marginal top-10 all-time hockey player.

(I can't quote others until some Soviets are picked.)

I think Potvin vs. Fetisov is worthy of a book. I say give an "=" sign and call it a day.
 
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