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Carol Vadnais Defensman
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From 1968-1979 ( 11 year time frame) For Defensemen
8X Top 13 In Goals For Defensemen ( 2,2,7,3,5,6,2,13)
8X Top 16 In Assists For Defensemen ( 11,15,16,3,2,13,10,12)
8X Top 15 In Points For Defensemen ( 5,3,8,3,4,8,10,15 )
155 Goals: 4th Behind Bobby Orr 246, Guy Lapointe 158, Denis Potvin 155
361 Assists: 3rd Behind Bobby Orr 597, Brad Park 464
516 Points: 3rd Behind Bobby Orr 843, Brad Park 616
1429 PIM: 4th Behind Bryan Watson 1979, Moose Dupont 1617, Keith Magnuson 1438
52 PPG: 5th Behind Bobby Orr 70, Brad Park 58, Denis Potvin 57, Guy Lapointe 56



17 Year NHL Career:
Games: 1087
Goals: 169
Assists: 418
Points: 587
PIM: 1813 ( 67th All Time)
PPG: 56
GWG: 19

Playoffs:
Games: 106
Goals: 10
Assists: 40
Points: 50
PIM: 185
PPG: 4

2X Stanley Cup Champion (1968 Montreal & 1972 Boston)
6X NHL All Star
California Golden Seals Captain ( 1971-72 )


From Benched Athletes. wordpress
Tough-guy defenceman Carol Vadnais twice got his name on the Stanley Cup and played in six All-Star Games.

Vadnais skated for five NHL teams in a 17-year career. He retired at age 37 in 1983, one of the last players from the six-team era.

Carol Vadnais Often overshadowed by teammates, including Bobby Orr in Boston, Vadnais was a good stickhandler and a superb playmaker when encouraged to play an attacking game. He recorded a career high 74 points (18 goals, 56 assists) in 79 games with the Bruins in 1974-75. But when ordered to stay at home, he abandoned end-to-end rushes in favour of using his 6-foot-1, 185-pound frame to punish opposing forwards in front of his net.

A chronic worrier but also known for a puckish sense of humour, Vadnais had an eventful career, including serving as a captain of the woeful California Golden Seals and being part of a blockbuster trade (and then, briefly, failing to report). He was twice taken into custody by police in Philadelphia, once as a suspect in a bank robbery.

Vadnais played major junior hockey for the Notre-Dame-de-Grace Monarchs in his hometown of Montreal, where he befriended Serge Savard, a future member of the Hockey Hall of Fame. Vadnais was a forward, but was shifted to defence to play alongside his friend, a move that benefitted them both.

After two seasons with the Junior Canadiens, during which he earned pocket money by sweeping the Forum for $1 an hour, Vadnais joined the parent club’s professional farm team, the Houston Apollos. He was called up and made his debut with the Canadiens on Feb. 26, 1967.

“I got the call that I would be playing at Chicago Stadium,†he recalled a few years ago. “When Toe Blake told me I’d be starting the game and I would be playing with Jacques Laperrière, I didn’t believe him at first. I went to see Lippy to be sure that I heard correctly. It was a game against the Black Hawks and some big name players.â€

Carol Vadnais The rookie served two minor penalties in his debut, on his way to accumulating 1,813 career minutes, the equivalent of more than 30 complete games spent in the penalty box.

He played 11 games for the hometown Canadiens over the remainder of the season, being credited with three assists. He also skated in a single playoff game. He scored one goal and added an assist in 31 games in 1967-68, then played in a playoff game, earning the right to have his name engraved on the Stanley Cup as the Habs swept the St. Louis Blues in the first post-expansion championship.

Despite his contributions, the Canadiens left him unprotected in the intra-league draft and Vadnais was selected first overall by the sad-sack Oakland Seals. (The Canadiens’ defensive corps included such reliable veterans as Laperrière, Ted Harris, Terry Harper, and J.C. Tremblay. As well, the Montreal braintrust needed to make roster space for two hot prospects — his friend Savard and Guy Lapointe, both future hall of famers.) The Seals allowed Vadnais to play a more freewheeling style and he would score 39 goals in his first two seasons with the club. (He also got called for 363 minutes in penalties.)

In his fourth season in the Bay Area, by which time the club had been renamed the California Golden Seals, and for which he served as captain, Vadnais was traded to the powerhouse Boston Bruins on Feb. 23, 1972.

“I wondered how the guys would accept me,†he later told the Montreal Gazette. “Here I was a French guy going to a team with only one other French guy on it (Don Marcotte) and I didn’t know what to expect. Also, they were in first place and I wondered what they needed me for.â€

At first, he was paired with Dallas Smith, but both had a tendency to rush the puck and Vadnais was caught up ice too often. He was then teamed with stay-at-home Don Awrey and by adjusting his own style the pair made an effective duo. He played 16 regular-season games and another 15 in the playoffs as the Bruins rolled to their second Stanley Cup championship in three seasons.

In December, 1972, Vadnais was arrested by Philadelphia police after tussling with a fan at the Spectrum. The man had leaned over the glass of the penalty box to shout at Vadnais, who waved his stick at him. The scene degenerated after the fan tried to grab the stick, as Vadnais pulled it back and whacked the fan. The referee did not call a penalty on the defenceman, but the police sought him out after the match. He was taken to police headquarters for 90 minutes of questioning, but was not charged.

Two months later, once again in Philadelphia for a game, Vadnais was sitting in the lobby of a hotel when four FBI agents rushed in and took him into custody. They led him to a nearby bank that had just been robbed, saying he fitted the description of the culprit. “While I’m waiting in the bank, I’m thinking to myself, ‘What if someone thinks it’s me?’ †he said. The teller said he was not the man and Vadnais was released.

Early in his fifth campaign with the Bruins, Vadnais was traded with star forward Phil Esposito to the New York Rangers for Brad Park, Jean Ratelle and Joe Zanussi, a deal that shocked the hockey world. Vadnais did not report, missing three Rangers games, as he insisted he had a no-trade clause in his contract with the Bruins. As well, his wife was undergoing surgery and he wished to be with her. In the end, he got a cash payout from the Bruins.

Vadnais great skill as a defenceman saw him named to the defensive corps of Team Canada for the Canada Cup tournament in 1976. The other defencemen included Orr, Savard, Lapointe, Larry Robinson, Denis Potvin and Jimmy Watson. Only Vadnais and Watson have not been inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame.

In 1981, Vadnais skated in his 1000th NHL game (he would play in 1,087), becoming only the 44th player in league history to reach that milestone. By then, however, the Rangers had soured on the aging rear-guard, as coach Herb Brooks was a stickler for conditioning and Vadnais had the highest measurement of body fat during training camp and was known to smoke a large cigar after most games. As well, Vadnais was upset Brooks had not reached out to him in the offseason when the coach was in Montréal. “Being the oldest guy on the team, I thought maybe he should have called me,†Vadnais told the New York Times.

Brooks benched Vadnais for the season opener, as well as for six of the team’s first eight games, five of which the Rangers lost. He was back in the lineup. “The best thing you can do is shut up and do what you’re told to do. It wasn’t like I was down to my last penny. I’m OK there. There was no reason to panic. But I said to myself, I play because I still like to play.â€

The Rangers placed him on waivers at the end of the season and Vadnais finished his playing career by playing 51 games for the New Jersey Devils in 1982-83.

He scored 169 goals with 587 assists in his NHL career. He had 10 goals and 40 assists in 106 playoff games.

From Legends of hockey.net
Carol Vadnais career spanned two distinct eras. His NHL career began in the Original Six age and ended in the Gretzky years. Only Wayne Cashman and Serge Savard outlasted Vadnais because their teams had made the playoffs. Vadnais earned Stanley Cup honors with the 1968 Montreal Canadiens and the 1972 Boston Bruins.
Vadnais, a fast skater and good puckhandler, shifted from forward to defense in his final year of junior hockey and the move paid off. A good showing at the Montreal Canadien training camp in the fall of 1966 earned him time with the big club that season. The Canadiens had a deep line-up and left Vadnais unprotected at the spring meeting in 1968, where he was drafted by the Oakland Seals. The Seals, with Vadnais, went from last to second in their division. Later he would be named the team captain.

In 1972 the Canadiens, wanting Vadnais back, entered into a bidding war but lost out to their rival, the Boston Bruins. The Bruins used Vadnais as the offensive force of the second defensive unit while Bobby Orr lead the first pairing. As a result the Bruins rolled to the Stanley Cup.

The Bruins moved Vadnais in the 1975 trade that sent Phil Esposito to the New York Rangers. He made his last Stanley Cup appearance in 1979 against the Canadiens. In 1982 the New Jersey Devils claimed him in the Waiver Draft. Unfortunately, the Devils frequently paired him with rushing defensemen which was counter his style of play. As a result, Vadnais was a career low -32 in his final season.

From Greatest Hockey Legends.com
Certainly Vadnais was not of the same caliber as Bobby Orr (who he played with for 5 seasons), Brad Park (who, as part of a bigger package, he was traded for), Larry Robinson, Denis Potvin or childhood friend Serge Savard. And he was not nearly as celebrated as 1970s tough defensemen like Ed Van Impe, Keith Magnuson or King Kong Korab.

Instead Vadnais was in a group of mobile defenders such as Dale Tallon, Jimmy Watson and Ian Turnbull who never quite seemed as appreciated as they could have been. Sure, Vadnais was susceptible to defensive errors from time to time, truly separating him from the league's elite. That and his reputation for lack of fitness and heavy smoking throughout various points of his career. But he did score 169 goals and 418 assists for 587 points in a lengthy career spanning 1087 games
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From Rangers Lohudblogs.com
But Vadnais was a vastly underrated defenseman, a rugged guy who would fight the likes of Jerry “King Kong†Korab and Dave “Tiger†Williams, a stay-at-home defender who was nasty on opponents. -

From Actor Tom Hanks:
The late Carol Vadnais made me a hockey fan in Oakland '68-'69. Name on the Stanley Cup twice,not w the Seals. Thank you and goodbye. Hanx
 

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D, Brian Rafalski

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Personal Info:

Height: 5'10"
Weight: 194lbs
Shoots: Right
Birth: Sept 28, 1973, Dearborn Mich.


NHL Accomplishments:

1999-00 & 2002-03 Stanley Cup Champion (New Jersey)
2007-08 Stanley Cup Champion (Detroit)
1999-00 NHL Rookie All Star Team
2001-02 (Injured), 2003-04, 2006-07 NHL All Star Game



International Accomplishments:

2002 & 2010 Olympic Silver Medalist (USA)
Named 2010 Best Defenseman of the Olympic tournament
2010 Olympic All Star
1999 Kultainen kypärä (best player as voted by players) - Finnish Elite League
Inducted into the United States Hockey Hall of Fame – 2014



Regular Season:

Although slightly undersized for a modern NHL defenseman, Rafalski was a calm, cool & smart defender. Rafalski was also one of the best powerplay quarterbacks during his NHL prime:

Player | Years | GP | PP% | $PPG | $PPA | $PPP | TmPP+ | TmPPF+ | TmPPA+

Brian Rafalski | 01-09 | 617 | 69% | 5 | 25 | 30 | 1.08 | 1.06 | 1.02


Rafalski was often paired with Stevens and Lidstrom during his career, having the benefit of a tremendous defensive partner but at the same time drawing tough assignments. They were very successful at ES as shown by overpass Top 50 post expansion players in adjusted plus minus:

Top 50
Player | SFrac | $ESGF/G | $ESGA/G | R-ON | R-OFF | XEV+/- | EV+/- | AEV+/- | /Season
Brian Rafalski | 10.2 | 1.10 | 0.78 | 1.41 | 1.05 | 27 | 266 | 239 | 24




Voting Records:

Norris:
9, 9, 9, 11, 12, 14.


Playoffs:

A strong and productive playoff performer, Rafalski played for New Jersey through a period where they went to 3 Stanley Cup Finals in 4 years (winning 2) and on back to back Finalists with Detroit (winning 1).

GP|G|A|Pts|+/-|PIM
165|29|71|100|42|66


Analysis:

Hockey News Scouting Report said:
Scouting Report

Assets: Was an extremely intelligent player with great skating ability along the blueline. Was also a terrific power-play quarterback and a steadying influence from the back end.

Flaws: Didn't have ideal size for an NHL blueliner and could get knocked off the puck from time to time. Also wore down with overuse. Injuries mounted late in his career and forced him out before he wanted to leave.

Career Potential: Excellent offensive defenseman.
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LW, John LeClair

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Personal Info:

Height: 6'3"
Weight: 225lbs
Shoots: Left
Birth: July 5, 1969, St. Albans, VT, USA


NHL Accomplishments:

1993 Stanley Cup Champion (Montreal)
1995, 1998 NHL First Post Season All Star Team
1996, 1997, 1999 NHL Second Post Season All Star Team
1997, 1999 NHL Plus Minus Award
NHL All Star Game 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000


International Accomplishments:

1996 World Cup Champion
1996 World Cup All Star
2002 Olympic Silver Medalist
2002 Olympic All Star



Regular Season:

One of the dominant power forwards of his era, LeClair was a goal scoring force during the NHL dead puck era, peaking with three consecutive 50-goal seasons in the late 90s:

Top 10 Goals: 3, 3, 5, 5, 7, 10
Top 10 Points: 4, 5, 9, 9

7 year weighted VsX score: 82.1
10 year weighted VsX score: 73.5


LeClair and the Legion of Doom were tremendously dominant at even strength as shown in overpass' top 50 post expansion players by adjusted plus minus:

Top 50
Player | SFrac | $ESGF/G | $ESGA/G | R-ON | R-OFF | XEV+/- | EV+/- | AEV+/- | /Season
John Leclair | 12.2 | 1.01 | 0.68 | 1.49 | 1.07 | 38 | 333 | 295 | 24


Voting Records:

Post Season All Stars: 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3
Hart: 6, 7, 15
Selke: 12
Byng: 7, 12, 32


Playoffs:

LeClair was a big game player:

Ocala Star-Banner - Jun 9 said:
Laperriere. Lapointe. Lafleur. Lemaire. Flying Frenchmen and Stanley Cup heroes, one and all. John LeClair fits right in.

Except for one thing: He's from Vermont! Vermont!

The 23-year old kid has turned on of the most evenly matched Stanley Cup finals ever into a one-sided series favoring the Montreal Canadiens.

LeClair scored the overtime winners in both games in Los Angeles, including a bank shot off two Kings players at 14:37 Monday, putting the Canadiens up 3-1 in the best of 7 series.

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Sarasota Herald-Tribune - Sep 13 said:
John LeClair scored twice and Brett Hull added a key goal as the United States skated to a gutsy 5-2 victory over Canada on Thursday night to force a deciding third game in the World Cup of Hockey championship.
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Analysis:

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Jan 19 said:
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Many hockey insiders consider Guerin the best power forward in the game after John LeClair of the Philadelphia Flyers.
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Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Mar 8 said:
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Lindros, like Lemieux, is the cornerstone of his franchise, but is hardly the only big-time talent in Philadelphia. Because Lindros has missed 26 games with a variety of health problems this season, he has surrendered the team scoring lead to linemate John LeClair.

LeClair, who ranks among the game's finest power forwards, performed brilliantly for Team USA during the World Cup tournament last fall, and has followed that up with a superb regular season.

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C, Anze Kopitar

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Kopitar (6-foot-2, 224 pounds) has become the complete package, the prototypical franchise center. He has Evgeni Malkin's size, but also Toews' defensive ability. - NHL.com



Personal Info:

Height: 6'3"
Weight: 225lbs
Shoots: Left
Birth: August 24, 1987 Jesenice, Slovenia (Yugoslavia)


NHL Accomplishments:

Stanley Cup Champion 2012, 2014 (LA)
NHL All Star Game 2008, 2011, 2015


International Accomplishments:

Kopitar was the only NHL player for Slovenia during the 2014 Olympic games and led their team to a surprising quarterfinals berth.



Regular Season:

Kopitar started his NHL career off running, placing 4th in Calder voting during 2006-07 and finishing with 61 points.

Kopitar has led the Kings in scoring during the regular season for 8 straight seasons from 2008-2015.

As of 2014 he has compiled a VsX 7 year of 73.6

As voted by the Kings media, Kopitar has been the recipient of the following team awards:

Award|Description|Seasons
Mark Bavis Award|Best Newcomer|2007
Bill Libby Award|Team MVP|2008, 2010, 2011, 2014
Best Defensive Player||2011,2013,2014


While always solid positionally with his great hockey sense, an important turning point for Kopitar was the spring of 2009, when he was tasked by LA Kings management to take an even bigger step in his commitment to an all around game and take on even more responsibility for the team:

Kings' Kopitar rises to challenge said:
EDMONTON -- Anze Kopitar altered his off-season conditioning program after being challenged by Los Angeles Kings management last spring.

The result has been impressive.

Kopitar has advanced from being a sporadic sniper to consistent point producer, while also improving his play in the defensive zone.
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"They wanted me to play at a high level for 20, 25 minutes a game," he said. "I felt confident I could take the next step and I think I've shown it so far. There's still a lot of work to be done, (but) being on top right now is something I'm really proud of.

"There are a lot of really good hockey players in this league, so just being on top, I know I must be doing something right. I'm getting the puck more in stride this year. In previous years, I'd have to go and get it. Now we're playing more of a possession game, which is really good."
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"I did some different conditioning, more running than I have in the past, and I think it's helped me out this year. I feel good on the ice, that's the most important thing," Kopitar said.
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"(Kopitar) really paid attention to the detail part of the checking part of the game last year and, to me, he clearly made a decision over the off-season that this was an opportunity to show what he can do on the offensive side," Kings coach Terry Murray said.
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Kopitar was minus 12 in his first season, and a combined minus 32 the next two years. This season? He's improved his defensive responsibilities to the point where he was plus 5 in the first 24 games.
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Kopitar is now among the best centers in the world.

Kings center Kopitar proves to be elite player said:
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This has been an incomparable season for Kopitar. He won the Stanley Cup and led the NHL playoffs in scoring for the second time in three seasons, but this was also a coronation as one of the world's best players.

No one symbolized the incredibly difficult path to a championship for the Kings more than Kopitar, who his coach consistently matched against some of the best centers in the sport. In each of the three rounds to survive the Western Conference, Kopitar outplayed the world-class player expected to contain him.

First it was Joe Thornton and (mostly) Logan Couture of the San Jose Sharks. Next it was Ryan Getzlaf of the Anaheim Ducks. Then it was Jonathan Toews of the Chicago Blackhawks.

After Kopitar and the Kings were done eliminating Toews in the Blackhawks, Wayne Gretzky went on national television in Canada and said Kopitar is the third-best hockey player in the world, behind Pittsburgh Penguins center Sidney Crosby and Toews. Kopitar finished the postseason with 26 points, a total behind only by Gretzky in Kings playoff history.

Kopitar's play in this postseason, combined with an analytics-based look at his body of work, could help someone form a convincing argument that the 26-year-old is, in fact, not behind Toews.
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Kopitar participated in the 2014 Sochi Olympics for his native Slovenia with his father, Matjaz, as his coach. That alone would make for memories that last a lifetime, but the Kopitars helped Slovenia to the two greatest victories in the country's hockey history, defeating established Slovakia in the preliminary round then advancing to the quarterfinals by defeating Austria.

On a team with no other NHL players, Kopitar was magnificent. He remained at that level in the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

Kopitar (6-foot-2, 224 pounds) has become the complete package, the prototypical franchise center. He has Evgeni Malkin's size, but also Toews' defensive ability.

Kopitar glides past defenders with long strides or bullies past them with underrated strength. At one point Friday during Game 5, Kopitar went into the corner with Rangers forward Rick Nash and muscled him off the puck like he was someone who weighed 40 pounds less.
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Kopitar is an advanced-statistics marvel. He faces the toughest competition and Sutter dares opposing coaches to avoid using their stars against Kopitar. He and Jarret Stoll field all of the tough faceoff assignments.

The Kings dominate possession of the puck when Kopitar is on the ice. The game slows down for everyone when he is dictating the play.

He is the talisman, the fulcrum of what makes the Kings so difficult to play against.

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For a front line center, Kopitar has been counted on heavily since even his rookie season as a penalty killer. Whether the Kings overall unit has been weak or strong Kopitar's reach, positioning and hockey sense have made him a key member of their PK:

Season|SH TOI / G|Team PK Rank
2006-07|2:05|30
2007-08|1:09|30
2008-09|1:28|7
2009-10|1:35|20
2010-11|2:03|4
2011-12|2:14|4
2012-13|1:29|10
2013-14|2:00|11
2014-15*|1:45|21
*=in progress


Voting Records:

AS: 6, 6, 8, 11
Byng: 4, 8, 10, 10, 14, 19, 52
Calder: 4
Hart: 8, 17
Selke: 2, 4, 9, 9


Playoffs:

Kopitar led the playoffs in scoring each time the Kings have won the Stanley Cup and added in great two-way play as well. He was a Conn Smythe candidate in each victory:

Quick said:
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Here are this week’s top five candidates for the Conn Smythe Trophy:
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ANZE KOPITAR, C, LOS ANGELES KINGS: With two goals and four points in the final, Kopitar has moved into a tie with New Jersey’s Ilya Kovalchuk for the playoff scoring lead. The 6-foot-3, 225-pound Kopitar has emerged as the Kings’ best forward and has been solid at both ends of the rink throughout the playoffs. Despite the fact he was minus-1 on Wednesday night, he remains second in plus-minus in the post-season at plus-14.

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Conn Smythe rankings: Kopitar said:
With Round 2 of the Stanley Cup Playoffs starting to heat up, here’s our list of the top 10 Conn Smythe candidates:

1) Anze Kopitar, Los Angeles Kings – Kopitar ranked No. 2 on last week’s list, but he jumped past Toews with four points in the Kings’ two road victories against Anaheim. Not only does Kopitar lead the playoffs in scoring (14 points), he’s also contributed a point in every one of his post-season games this year.
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Stats say Kopitar deserves Conn Smythe said:
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Generally the search begins with the goaltender, because they have won the award 33 percent of the time. The Kings have a Conn Smythe–winning goaltender on their roster, but he has been mediocre to bad all playoffs.This is where the debate really begins this season, because over the last 20 seasons, a post-season like Quick’s registers so poorly that he is not even a realistic candidate.
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the most deserving King is Anze Kopitar. Not only does he meet the criteria of leading his team in scoring, but he has also managed to dominate traditional and #fancystat categories while facing elite competition.

Kopitar has outperformed his expected output while driving the Kings’ play. His possession numbers are strong considering the match ups he’s face during this Kings playoff run. Kopitar struggled early at 5 on 5 as the Sharks matched him up against Patrick Marleau, Logan Couture and Matt Nieto, but as the series wore on the Slovenian began to take over. When the Kings knocked the Sharks out, his assignment became Ryan Getzlaf, Corey Perry and Devante Smith-Pelly. His task against the Hawks? Jonathan Toews, Marian Hossa and Bryan Bickell. In the Finals it is more of the same.

Kopitar isn’t just negating the top of the other teams’ lineups, he is dominating those match ups. He has always been underrated playing on the West Coast, but I do find it interesting that, after defeating Jonathan Toews—the man that inherited Sidney Crosby’s best player mantle in the Conference Finals—the imaginary belt went right past Kopitar to Drew Doughty. It is possible Doughty steals the Smythe, I can live with that, but Kopitar should win it because it is time he is recognized as a superstar.
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Analysis:

For those that think Kopitar has only now put it all together and had a coming out party with all the good press after his absolutely dominant 2014 season.. here is some press from the previous time he was finally discovered (not coincidentally when he led the playoffs in scoring and won a Stanley Cup -- people were watching!):

NHL playoffs: Kings' Anze Kopitar finally getting noticed said:
Meet Anze Kopitar, one of the best players in the NHL who very few seem to know about.

The basics are simple. The 24-year-old Slovenian center led the Los Angeles Kings in scoring for the fifth straight season, notching at least 25 goals each time. His career-high 51 assists this season were eighth-best in the league.

But when you keep a low profile and play hockey in Southern California, it is easy to avoid the spotlight. That is quickly changing as the Kings close in on their first Stanley Cup title.

"When we're starting our games at 7:30 on the West Coast, a lot of people are sleeping," linemate Justin Williams said Friday of the sixth-year forward. "In that aspect, he obviously flies under the radar. The important things are that we know how good he is. If the rest of the world wants to find out, they are doing it right now."

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Kopitar, with his size and scoring ability, gives the Kings an advantage and luxury that teams crave but have a tough time finding.

"There are not many No. 1 powerful centers in this league. There is only maybe one a team, if that," Williams said. "Kopy's skill level and his work ethic and his defensive-zone responsibilities are something that set him apart from a lot of the other players."

Kopitar excels in his own end, too. He was ninth in the NHL with 76 takeaways.


"I've always had the mindset of going out to perform to the best or to the potential that I have," said Kopitar, the No. 11 pick in the 2005 NHL draft. "If people notice me or not, it doesn't really matter except for me knowing that I do lay out there every night and do my best."

The two-way game he plays is certainly not lost on stellar goalie Jonathan Quick, who is likely the biggest obstacle in Kopitar's path to the Conn Smythe Trophy as playoff MVP should the Kings capture the Cup.

"It was a little disappointing for quite a while," Quick said of Kopitar's relative anonymity. "You see how well he's played for the past few years and it seems like he doesn't get as much praise as he definitely deserves. He is definitely one of the best players in the league, and I'm glad to see he's finally getting some press and attention.

"He's unbelievable."


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Sportsnet said:
Two Stanley Cups and 550 points into his career, Anze Kopitar is the pride of Slovenia. And the NHL’s most underrated superstar.

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For nearly a decade, Kopitar has been one of the best all-around players in the game. And yet, it seems, not everyone knows who Kopitar is. Playing on the West Coast in a city of stars, his local celebrity is naturally muted. And though he’s been one of the most consistent and effective two-way centres in the game, he is routinely left out of discussions about hockey’s greatest players.
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If there is indeed a traditional-puck-market bias in the collective hockey conversation, Kopitar is its biggest victim. Nearly a point-per-game player since he entered the league as a 19-year-old, Kopitar is also one of the game’s most reliable penalty killers and his possession numbers are exceptional. Yet he has never won a major NHL award—aside from those two Stanley Cups.
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Under coach Terry Murray, Kopitar developed into one of the best two-way centres in the game, fully utilizing his six-foot-three, 225-lb. frame.
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Logan Couture said:
Kopitar is the most underrated center in the NHL. We see him all the time, unfortunately. Because he combines size, strength and intelligence, he’s as difficult to play against as any player in the league. When we’re up against the Kings, I try and play like him. He’s very responsible defensively and checks very well, especially with his stick. He’s one of the best in the league at anticipating where the puck is going and jumping in to cut off cycles.

Offensively, his strength presents a problem. If he gets speed coming through the neutral zone, he’s tough to contain.
I try to push him to the outside as much as possible. More than anything you have to take away his space. You can’t let him get his eyes up. If you give him a second on the puck to look up, he’s going to find someone in a dangerous spot.
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Kopitar has long been an under-appreciated player, to the point where he gets talked about enough for the label to fade. He has never quite been a point-a-game player, but is a possession machine who, over the last three years, has been on the ice for 59.9 per cent of all available shot attempts at even strength. It’s a staggering number; over that span, he’s 0.4 per cent behind Boston’s Patrice Bergeron, another purist’s two-way star. Kopitar, like Bergeron, vastly improves every teammate’s possession numbers, as well.

And for the old-school stats, Kopitar led the Kings in playoff scoring in 2012, and was leading them heading into a potential Cup-clinching Game 5 in Los Angeles Friday night, with 26 points in his first 25 playoff games. The Kings, for their part, seem to appreciate him properly.
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This is the first time Kopitar is a finalist for the award — he finished ninth in 2011 and 2012, then fourth last season — but he has been deserving for quite some time.
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LA Times said:
Is this the year that Kings center Anze Kopitar solidifies his lofty position in the NHL in the view of people … outside of L.A.?

That might sound a bit odd when talking about someone who led the NHL in playoff scoring in 2012 when the Kings won the Stanley Cup, but it has taken this long for Kopitar's two-way excellence to get him into the Selke Trophy conversation. Perhaps voters were staying up later on the East Coast to watch Kings games during the regular season.
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NHL Awards: Anze Kopitar Headlines Worthy Selke Nominees said:
Here’s an image from the good people over at Extra Skater. They are a fantastic resource and should be a go-to for hockey fans. This is an image of the deployment (offensive or defensive zone) and quality of competition (TotTm% QoC). The further up-and-to-the-left a player is, the tougher the zone starts and competition the player faced:

(An excellent usage chart that has undrafteds so I won't post but shows Kopitar way off by himself )

In the hockey sense of the phrase, Kopitar is quite literally on an island for the Kings.

Kopitar had the lowest rate of offensive zone starts among all regular Kings forwards (33.4-percent) and the third-highest rate of defensive zone starts (30.6-percent). This led to Kopitar having the second-lowest O/D ratio among all Kings forwards (only Jarret Stoll was lower).

Kopitar led all regular Kings forwards in CorsiFor at 5-on-5 at 61-percent and was on the ice for just 25 goals against at 5-on-5 all year (Bergeron was at 29, for what it’s worth). He was also second among their forwards in short-handed ice time, finishing behind Stoll by a whopping six seconds. He also led the entire NHL in CorsiOn, or the differential expressed as a 60-minute rate. It is absurd how good Kopitar was this year, playing all 82 games.
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One of these years we have to get a Selke into Kopitar's hands, who is truly one of the NHL's premier two-way forwards. But his own inconsistent play early in the season, plus his team's overall struggles until lately, will likely hurt his case. But man, he is honestly one of the top two or three two-way forwards in the world, and one day he'll get his.
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Brad Park, Defenseman:

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Stats and personal information courtesy of hockeyreference.com:

Position: D ▪ Shoots: Left
Height: 6-0 (183 cm) ▪ Weight: 200 lbs. (91 kg)

Born: July 6, 1948 (Age 66.233) in Toronto, Ontario
Draft: NY Rangers, 1st round (2nd overall), 1966 NHL Amateur
Hall of Fame: Inducted as Player in 1988 (Full List)

- 896 points in 1113 career NHL games
- 125 points in 161 career playoff games
- 7 time post season all star
- 9 Top 3 Norris Finishes
- 3 Top 10 finishes in assists for a season

Legends Of Hockey:

Through seventeen NHL seasons, Brad Park exemplified blueline excellence. He was heralded as one of the best defensemen in the league virtually from the moment he first stepped onto the ice with the New York Rangers during the 1968-69 season. But after playing in the immense shadows of some of the greatest players ever to lace up a pair of skates, it looked as though Brad Park was finally going to be recognized as the Norris Trophy winner in 1978.

Head Coach Gerry Cheevers once remarked, "It's guys like Brad who make coaches like me look like geniuses."

Joe Pelletier:

Brad Park was a highly efficient defender, combining size and clean but dogged tenacity with an uncanny awareness of the game. A noted hip-checker, Park was brash and unintimidated. But with the puck he became a natural chessmaster on the ice. more-than-likely make a perfect pinpoint pass to clear the puck out of the zone and start the attack. With a short burst of speed he would often jump to join the rush as a fourth attacker, and was a true power play quarterback. Park, not unlike Ray Bourque years later, was a consistently steady defender with often brilliant offensive instincts.

Final Thoughts: Glad to have Park on board. He seems like a great anchor for my defense and also the team.
 

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Centre Alex Delvecchio

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Stats and personal information courtesy of hockeyreference.com:

Position: C/LW ▪ Shoots: Left
Height: 6-0 (183 cm) ▪ Weight: 195 lbs. (88 kg)

Born: December 4, 1932 (Age 82.083) in Fort William, Ontario
Hall of Fame: Inducted as Player in 1977

- 1281 points in 1549 career games
- 10 top 10 finishes in Assists for a Season
- 2 Regular Season All Star finishes
- 825 Assists rank him 26th all time
- 104 points in 121 career games

Legends Of Hockey:

One of the most talented and classiest stars ever to play in the NHL, Alex "Fats" Delvecchio spent more than two decades with the Detroit Red Wings. He was a superior playmaker and team leader and one of the game's true gentlemen. When he retired in 1973, he trailed only long-time teammate Gordie Howe in games played, assists and total points. His career extended from Detroit's glory years of the early 1950s to their dismal 1970s.

A popular player in the dressing room, Delvecchio was given the affectionate nickname "Fats" as a tribute to his round face. More important, the esteem in which his peers held him led to his choice as team captain in 1962, a position he held until he retired. In 1966 he helped the Red Wings reach the finals with a playoff-leading 11 assists. Delvecchio was presented the Lady Byng Trophy again in 1966 and 1969.

Joe Pelletier:

Many words describe Alex Delvecchio. Consistent. Durable. Gentleman. Winner. Leader. Loyal. If forced to choose just one word to sum up his legacy, it would have to be legend.

Final Thoughts: Glad to have Delvecchio, guy is a great building block for any team and he will be the captain for my ATD entry this year.
 

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Sandis Ozolinsh, D
Height: 6-3 (190 cm)
Weight: 215 lbs. (98 kg)
Shoots: Left

Stanley Cup Champion (1996)

Awards and Achievements
Norris Voting: 3rd (1997), 9th (1994), 16th (2000), 17th (2003)
All Star Voting: 1st (1997), 9th (1994), 10th (2000), 14th (1998), 15th (2002), 20th (2003) (A lot of this voting isn't statistically significant but it suggests he was very relevant over a long period of time)
NHL All-Star: 1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003

Offensive Accomplishments among Defensemen
Points: 2nd (1997), 5th (2002), 7th (1998), 7th (2000), 11th (1994), 14th (1996), 15th (2003), 20th (2001)

Play-off Points: 1st (1996), 1st (1997), 3rd (2000), 4th (1999), 6th (2003), 8th (1994)

5-Year Peak: 1996-2000
5th in Points among Defensemen, 87% of 2nd place Brian Leetch
3rd in Power Play Goals among Defensemen, 98% of 2nd place Al MacInnis
1st in Play-off Points among Defensemen, 112% of 2nd place Nicklas Lidstrom

10-Year Peak: 1994-2003
5th in Points among Defensemen, 84% of 2nd place Brian Leetch
6th in Power Play Goals among Defensemen, 85% of 2nd place Rob Blake
3rd in Play-off Point among Defensemen, 91% of 2nd place Sergei Subov

Scoring Percentages
Points among Defensemen: 100, 89, 88, 84, 73, 72, 66, 62, 58, 56

Best 6 Seasons: 506

International Accomplishments
KHL All-Star: 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014
KHL Scoring among Defensemen: 6th (2011), 10th (2010)

Olympic Points among Defensemen: 4th (2002), 4th (2006)
World Championship Points among Defensemen: 5th (2001), 10th (1998)

From Mile High Hockey:

These days, when anyone mentions the term "offensive defenseman" in the same breath as "Colorado Avalanche," they're usually talking about John-Michael Liles. But the original Avalanche offensive defenseman was Latvian legend Sandis Ozolinsh, one of the highest-scoring blueliners of the 1990s.

Traded from the San Jose Sharks for Owen Nolan, Ozolinsh joined the Avalanche during their first season in Denver, and became an integral part of that Cup-winning team. His impressive offensive contributions, not to mention his capable defensive efforts, firmly place him in the middle tier of the Top 19 Avalanche Players Of All Time.

Ozolinsh, born in Latvia, played his earliest hockey for the Soviet Union, which was still in existence in 1990-91. By 1992, the team was playing under the new flag of the Coalition of Independent States (CIS) and won the World Junior Championships, giving Ozolinsh his only medal from international competition.

Just prior to that win, Ozolinsh was drafted 30th overall by the San Jose Sharks in the 1991 NHL Entry Draft and had already started playing for the Kansas City Blades, a minor league team in the International Hockey League. Ozolinsh didn't stay in the minors very long, though, joining the Sharks in 1992-93. Immediately his scoring touch was revealed. He scored 23 points in 37 games his rookie season, and followed that with an 81 game, 64 point sophomore effort. That points total would be the second-highest of his career.

Ozolinsh stayed with the Sharks for just one more full season, and at the start of the 1995-96 campaign, San Jose traded him for Nordiques/Avalanche forward Owen Nolan. The addition of Sandis to the blueline of the Avalanche was a godsend for the team. Before his arrival, Craig Wolanin and Uwe Krupp were the closest things Colorado had to offensive defensmen. Yeah.

To say that Ozolinsh completely transformed the Avalanche power play would be an understatement. His fast skating, superb passing and nose for offense made the Avs a potent force with the man advantage, and virtually ensured a deep run in the playoffs. In 66 games, Sandis scored 50 total points, with more than half on the power play. He also got to raise the Stanley Cup above his head, something Owen Nolan has never done.

But if 1995-96 was a good year for Sandis Ozolinsh, 1996-97 was an incredible year. He got even better on the power play. That season, he scored 68 points in 80 games (the best showing of his career), including 13 goals and 29 assists with the man advantage. He led the league in team power play goals scored while on the ice, with 69. And he became a rock solid defenseman, too, only rarely caught out of position during opposing rushes. Many offensive defenseman can be serious defensive liabilities, but Ozolinsh never was. He was a first team All-Star, and was a finalist for the Norris Trophy.

The following three seasons with the Avalanche weren't as superb as his second, but he continued to contribute significantly to both the offensive superiority of the team as well as Patrick Roy's solid line of defense. He only dipped below .70 points per game in 1999-2000, his final year in Denver. Though he still scored 52 points in 82 games, he became more valuable to the Avs as trade bait, or that was the thought, at least.

During the 2000 NHL Entry Draft, Ozolinsh was traded to the Carolina Hurricanes for Nolan Pratt and draft picks that became Vaclav Nedorost, Jared Aulin, and Agris Saviels. So yeah, Colorado got a whole lot of nothing for him. In a weird coincidence, the best player chosen by the Avalanche in that draft was John-Michael Liles, the 159th pick in the 5th round. Of the 13 players picked by the Avs that year, only Kurt Sauer and Liles ever made any impact on the team. But I digress.

Ozolinsh played just one and a half seasons with Carolina before being traded to the Florida Panthers. During 2001-02, the Panthers sent him to Anaheim. During this time, his offense began to tail off a bit, as age slowed his skating and made his passing a little less precise. He still enjoyed an appearance in the 2002-03 Stanley Cup Finals with the Mighty Ducks, but his second Cup would prove elusive.

During the 2005-06 season, Sandis was traded from Anaheim to the Rangers, but his battle with alcohol and injury began to unravel his career. A serious knee problem, his entry into the league's substance abuse program and a drunk driving arrest looked to be the end of the road for him.

However, after some serious therapy and rehab on his knee, Ozolinsh was able to make a return to the NHL last season, this time with his original team, the San Jose Sharks. He signed a one-year contract and had a respectable showing, scoring 16 points in 39 games at the age of 35. However, as of August 2008, he remains an unsigned free agent and may soon retire from the NHL.

But while recent years have been tough on him, his early career with the Colorado Avalanche remains an impressive testament to his abilities. He was a key contributor to the first Stanley Cup win for the team and continued to play an important role in their regular season success through the late 1990s. His achievements as an offensive defenseman live on in franchise lore. For these reasons, he will always be firmly situated among the Top 19 Avalanche Players of All Time.

From Legends of Hockey:

In 1992 he earned the notice of the world hockey community as a member of the gold medal-winning Russian team at the World Junior Championships on a squad that included fellow NHL players Alexei Yashin, Darius Kasparitis, Alexei Zhitnik and Alexei Kozlov.
Before the World Juniors, he had been the San Jose Sharks' third choice in the 1991 NHL Entry Draft and the 30th pick overall while a member of Dynamo Riga in the Soviet league. After a stint with Kansas City in the IHL, he started with the Sharks in 1992-93.

But while Ozolinsh was a master at scoring and setting up goals as a result of his spectacular end-to-end rushes, he was also aware that he needed to develop a more complete game. The NHL opposition, after all, was quick to figure out a player's particular habits and patterns on the ice and could capitalize on an attacking defender's absence from the front of his own goal.

In October 1995, San Jose management traded Ozolinsh to Colorado for high-scoring winger Owen Nolan, a move that was met with great glee by Avalanche players and staff alike. Pierre Lacroix, the team's general manager, had big plans for the Latvian.

The trade paid big dividends for the Avs, who won the 1996 Stanley Cup with Ozolinsh firmly established as the team's power-play star and scoring defenceman. He was voted to the NHL First All-Star Team in 1997. After parts of five seasons in Colorado, Ozolinsh was dealt to the Carolina Hurricanes in the summer of 2000 where he played for parts of two seasons before joining the Florida Panthers midway through the 2001-02 season.

A member of Latvia's World Championship team and Olympic team in 2002, Ozolinsh remained with the Panthers midway through the 2002-03 season before he was acquired by the upstart Anaheim Might Ducks. Upon his arrival with the Ducks Ozolinsh played a key role helping the club reach the post season and their first Stanley Cup Final. Despite reaching their first Cup final, Ozolinsh and the Ducks were defeated in a hard-fought seven game series to the New Jersey Devils.

In 2003-04, the Ducks struggled and failed in their attempt in returning to the post season. Along with the Ducks struggles, their star defenceman battled injuries and was limited to a mere 36 games and following a lock out year in 2004-05, was dealt to the New York Rangers at the 2006 NHL trading deadline. He completed his 2005-06 as a Ranger and went on to miss the majority of the following season with a recurring knee injury.

In 2006, Ozolinsh represented his homeland in the 2006 Winter Olympics.

From Mile High Sticking

In this edition of Colorado Avalanche Throwback Thursday, we profile former Avalanche defenseman Sandis Ozolinsh

The Wandering Latvian, the Wild Stallion — Sandis Ozolinsh was known for his roving ways.
Talk about a roving player these days, and Tyson Barrie‘s name comes up. But long before Barrie declared he would make the team or get shipped back to the minors based on his personal style of play, Sandis Ozolinsh let his skating do the talking.

Apparently Ozolinsh’s skating started in a unique place — figure skating classes. According to an interview Ozolinsh did with CNN, his mother insisted he take figure skating classes when he was five years old. He preferred hockey, but presumably Mama Ozolinsh didn’t want her son playing such a dangerous sport:

“I made a deal with her. If I could do pirouettes to her liking, then she would have to stay in the net as a goalie, and I’d do shootouts on her. She got tired of being a goalie, so she decided to take me to hockey.”

And the Colorado Avalanche are glad she caved in.

The Avs didn’t have the pleasure of drafting Ozo — that honor went to the Sharks. They chose him 30th overall in 1991 — not bad for a kid who didn’t even know he was eligible for the draft:

“I got drafted while I was in the Soviet army. I was sitting in a barracks, and somebody came with a newspaper, and showed me that I was drafted. I had no idea that I was going to be drafted — I didn’t know what the draft was.”

Let the record show that this happened way before the Internet became a household staple.

Ozolinsh became a Colorado Avalanche on October 26, 1995, when then-GM Pierre Lacroix traded Owen Nolan to the San Jose Sharks for him to bolster a “lackluster” defense.
The Wandering Latvian was especially useful on the power play. He quarter backed that power play with his sheer force of will.

Ozo made seven All Star Game appearances, including First Team All Star in 1997. In fact, that appearance marks one of my favorite Ozo memories. He was performing a skating competition for defensemen, one of those that has the player weaving between cones while stick-handling the puck. Ozo made his run, and by the final leg, he was way ahead of his competition. So, with a smooth twist, he transitioned into skating backwards and hot-dogged it to the finish line. The Wild Stallion.
Mile High Sticking editor Jeremy Lambert has his own favorite Ozolinsh memory:

His hat trick goal against the Vancouver Canucks is all you need to see to know the kind of game that Ozolinsh played. He skated through the entire Canucks team before finishing off the hat trick on a brilliant individual effort. That was the kind of thing he could do at any given moment in a game. When it comes to power player defensemen, there are few people I would want ahead of Ozolinsh. He had a great shot (hard and accurate) and could be all over the offensive end without a care because of his great skating.

Jeremy continues:

Sandis Ozolinsh wasn’t a defenseman. He was a fourth forward. Don’t get me wrong, he was good in his own end, but when the Avs were in the offensive zone and Ozolinsh was on the ice, he was the most dangerous person on skates.

Known for his smooth skating, vision, and stick handling; Ozolinsh was the prototypical offensive defenseman. Whether he was starting the break out, possibly by himself, or running the power play, Ozo was a one man force on the blueline. The Avs had plenty of offensive talent up front, but their defense was filled with anchors like Adam Foote and Jon Klemm. Ozolinsh brought an entirely different element from the back end.

He holds the record for most goals (23) and points (68) by an Avs defenseman in a regular season, and it’s tough to see either of those records falling anytime soon.

Head coach Patrick Roy, who back-stopped the only team that awarded Ozolinsh a Stanley Cup, the 1995-96 Colorado Avalanche, shared his own Ozo reminisces:

“He created a lot of scoring chances at the offensive end — and he also created chances at the defensive end. If there was an occasional chance against you, you didn’t mind because he gave you so much at the other side.”

One time he did mind — when Ozo made one of his rare gaffes and dropped the puck back to a goalie who’d already been pulled — thus scoring on his own team. As Roy said, though — he created so many scoring chances on the other end, that you had to forgive him such a mistake.

Ozo got traded to the Carolina Hurricanes during the 2000 NHL Entry Draft, and so ended the era of the Colorado Avalanche’s original rover.

From LCS Hockey:

Sandis Ozolinsh, Colorado Avalanche: The most exciting defenseman in hockey was up to his old tricks last season, leading all defensemen in goals (23) and finishing second in points (68). You just never know what's going to happen when the loopy Latvian is on the ice. One shift he'll get abused by a Junior-A deke for a goal, and then the next time out he'll weave his way through everybody and deposit one of his own.

Ozolinsh really isn't as inept on defense as most people would have you think. He's actually quite solid when he wants to be, even dishing out some booming checks and getting involved physically. It's just that when he makes mistakes, he makes them in a big way. Most of the problems are rooted in his decision making. Ozolinsh loves to gamble. There's nothing he won't try with the puck. And he can think up some crazy stuff. It doesn't always work, but you have to admire his creativity and courage to try. Luckily, Ozolinsh plays for a great coach in Marc Crawford that gives him the freedom to play his game. Under anyone else's watch, Sandis would probably be spending a lot of his time at the end of a bench. The best thing to do with Ozolinsh is cut him loose and enjoy the show. You never really know what's going to happen, but one thing's for sure... it's going to be some quality entertainment.

From The Ranger Pundit, by 2006 it appears he was pretty much done in the NHL:

Interesting that scouts and others had a lot of good things to say about the trade at the time it was made. Details in the link.

It is now obvious that the trade for Sandis Ozolinsh was a very bad one. Not counting the recent DWI arrest. As the Ranger Pundit said, adding Ozo was like adding "acid" to the good chemistry the Rangers had going. The Rangers traded for Ozolish on March 9th. He scored three goals in the 19 regular season games he played with the Rangers. However, he played terrible defense. It got so bad that Renney did not even dress him for the final playoff game.

From Pro Hockey Talk, seems he refound his game after moving on from the NHL:

Arguably the greatest Latvian hockey player ever is hanging up his skates.

Defenseman Sandis Ozolinsh, a seven-time NHL All-Star and Stanley Cup champion, announced his retirement from professional hockey on Tuesday, per Latvian news outlet Sporta Centrs.

Ozolinsh, 41, was taken 30th overall at the 1991 NHL Entry Draft by San Jose and enjoyed success with the Sharks — he still holds the franchise record for points by a defenseman in a single season (64) — but garnered his highest accolades with Colorado in the late 90s.

He won a Stanley Cup with the Avs in ’96, scoring 19 points in 22 playoff games, and finished third in Norris voting a year later, behind Vladimir Konstantinov and eventual winner Brian Leetch.

From there, Ozolinsh would bounce around the league with stops in Carolina, Florida, Anaheim (with whom he’d get to another Cup Final) and New York, before taking a year’s hiatus from hockey and returning to the KHL for Latvian club side Dinamo Riga in 2009. In the KHL, Ozolish re-established himself as an elite-level defenseman, appearing in four All-Star Games while making one final appearance for the Latvian national team at the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, leading his country to a near upset of Canada in the tournament quarterfinals.

Ozolinsh retires as the highest-scoring Latvian NHLer of all time, and will now reportedly turn his attention to the political realm.

From Purdy's Diary, a little insight into post-NHL Ozolinsh:

* I had some really bad luck Wednesday night, pursuing what I thought might b a very good story, one that would be a nostalgic flashback it was for any fan of the Sharks. Wednesday night, the 41-year-old Sandis Ozolinsh was out on the ice playing defense for Latvia against Switzerland on the first day of ice hockey.

Ozolinsh was a member of the original Sharks expansion team of 1991-92 that played at the Cow Palace. He’s now playing in the Kontinental Hockey League based in Russia and Eastern Europe.

And the old guy still has endurance. He had 22:42 of ice time Wednesday, second most for on Latvia team and third most for anyone on either team. He’s also the team captain and served as Latvian’s flag bearer during the Opening Ceremonies. Given some of the troubles he endured in San Jose – he had alcohol issues and a DUI arrest, which played a role in the Sharks’ decision to trade him in 1995, just two years after he’d led the NHL in goals by a defenseman – it was great to see him reach a stage in his life where he was obviously held in such high esteem by his nation..

I figured that it would be fun to talk with Ozolinsh a little bit about his journey, if I could catch him for a few minutes after Wednesday’s game. But the worst possible thing happened. Switzerland won the game, 1-0, on a goal with just seven seconds remaining in the third period.

Ozolinsh was clearly upset about the finish as he came through the “mixed zone” where athletes are interviewed and uttered nearly all of his brief remarks in Latvian to reporters from his native land. When a few of us began asking questions in English, he waved his hand and said: “We played hard, every shift, every second – and that’s it.” And then he walked into the locker room.

I understood. Maybe on another night, after a victory, Ozolinsh will be in a better mood.

From The Baltic Times, a little insight into Sandis Ozolinsh, the person:

For most National Hockey League stars playing the All-Star Game even once would be the apex of their sports career. But not so for Latvia's Sandis Ozolinsh, who played his fourth All-Star Game in his seven-year NHL career recently. Ozolinsh also helped lead the Colorado Avalanche to the Stanley Cup in 1996. Ieva Raubishko reports from Washington, D.C.
Ozolinsh now ranks fourth in the list of NHL defensemen. For him it is a wonderful honor to be in the All-Star Team. Yet in a certain way the All-Star Game is a relaxed show -- perhaps even a holiday, Ozolinsh said in a recent interview with the Baltic Times.

"There's at last one game when you don't have to worry about the result," the Latvian star said this week.

"It's different from the regular season where every game is important and you can't let your rival score a goal. In the All-Star Game everyone tries to score a goal, show his best skills and entertain the spectators."

The most difficult work in professional hockey is standing up to the grooling 82-game season, plus play-offs, where every contest is filled with relentless pressure.

"The season is too long," says the 6-3, 205-pound Ozolinsh. "In hard times, there is a feeling of being tired of hockey. But that's the challenge. All the teams are under the same conditions, all of them play 82 games, and only one wins the Stanley Cup in the end." The Avalanche remained at the top position in Northwest division of NHL's Western Conference but it suffered a defeat by the Washington Capitals 2-1 on Feb. 15 and three other losses in the last five games. The team must now rebuild its self-confidence, said Ozolinsh.

Today Ozolinsh and five colleagues face an even more difficult question than rebuilding the Avalanche's team spirit. Their contracts will expire in the end of the season giving them the status of restricted free agents.

Ozolinsh said he is uncertain whether he will stay with the Avalanche. He can be traded off by the team as any other player.

"It's impossible to foretell the future," he said. Hockey business "involves no personal relationship or emotions."

The markets control the world of high-class hockey. You can hear many hockey players say "we are not humans anymore, we are commodities, " according to Ozolinsh. "The view of the owner and the team management is dominant," he said.

Ozolinsh today enjoys huge popularity and the respect of his fans, due to his "now-you-see-him-now-you-don't" style of play, according to the press reports. Nearly 8,000 web pages, many built by fans, carry Ozolinsh's name. Yet he remains down-to-earth. "I think other people have achieved much more," he said.

Ozolinsh hopes to return to Latvia when he finishes his pro-hockey career. Future plans? Well, he has many, but they change from year to year.

"Sometimes I feel I don't want anything to do with hockey after finishing a pro-hockey career. But the other day I was thinking, 'why not coach for some time?'"

Ozolinsh co-founded The Arturs Irbe and Sandis Ozolinsh Youth Hockey Fund in Riga in 1997. Ozolinsh and his friend Irbe, a goalkeeper with the NHL's Carolina Hurricanes, have both invested a part of their private resources in the fund. Yet the project is on hold for the moment, because "you can't manage things using remote control," he said.

Ozolinsh's little sons, Robert, and Cristopher, don't skate yet. They have been "standing on the ice" a couple of times, but he will not force them to take up the art he practices.

Even so, they already have shown interest in hockey. They have seen lots of dad's games and keep playing "table hockey" at home, Ozolinsh said. Back to the ice in the United States, of the two NHL teams he has represented, the San Jose Sharks and the Colorado Avalanche, Ozolinsh likes the latter much more.

"We have had more success here, we have won the Stanley Cup. It's always more fun to be with a team that wins more games than it loses."

How did it feel to help win the Stanley Cup for the Avalanche? - "I can't easily reconstruct those feelings," he said. "It's joy. Unbelievable joy and pride."

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Clint Benedict, Goalie

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Stats and Personal info courtesy of hockeyreference.com:

Born: September 26, 1892 in Ottawa, Ontario
Died: November 12, 1976 (Aged 84.047)
Hall of Fame: Inducted as Player in 1965

- 6 Time NHL Leader in Wins for a Season
- 9 Time NHL Leader in Games Played for a Season
- 7 Time NHL Leader in Shutouts for a Season
- NHL Career Record of 190-143-28
- 57 Career Shutouts

Joe Pelletier:

Many fans today automatically assume Georges Vezina was the first great goaltender, after all his name lives on with the trophy that honours the best goalie in the NHL each year. But many would argue Clint Benedict of the Ottawa Senators and later the Montreal Maroons was the better netminder. And if it were not for Vezina's tragic death, goalies today could very well be dreaming of winning a Benedict Trophy.

Born in Ottawa in 1892, Clint Benedict would star with the original Senators. He apprenticed for 5 seasons with the Sens in the National Hockey Association, the forerunner to the NHL, guiding his team to an unsuccessful Stanley Cup appearance in 1915. An equally notable lacrosse player, Benedict was a solid goaltender on the verge of stardom. Wearing his trademark cricket-style leg pads that he would wear beyond Pop Kenesky's creation of the modern goalie pads, the ill tempered Benedict was already establishing himself with opponents as an unfriendly and combative foe.

Benedict reached his prime as the Senators joined the newly minted National Hockey League. Led by the goaltending of Benedict, superstars Cy Denneny and Frank Nighbor, and the clutch playoff scoring of Jack Darragh, the Senators were the NHL's first dynasty, winning three Stanley Cups in the four seasons between 1920 and 1923

Final Thoughts: Glad to have Benedict. Think he's among the all time great goalies in NHL history.
 

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Pete Mahovlich !!!


Awards and Achievements:
4 x Stanley Cup Champion (1971, 1973, 1976, 1977)
2 x NHL All-Star (1971, 1975)

Regular Season Scoring:
Points – 5th(1975), 6th(1976)
Goals – 10th(1974), 11th(1971), 13th(1972)
Assists – 2nd(1976), 3rd(1975)

From 1971 to 1980, Mahovlich was 8th in Points and Assists

Play-off Scoring:
Play-off Points – 4th(1975), 9th(1971), 9th(1973)
Play-off Goals – 3rd(1971), 7th(1975)
Play-off Assists – 3rd(1975), 7th(1973), 7th(1976)

From 1971 to 1977, Mahovlich was 4th in Points, 8th in Goals, and 7th in Assists

Coach's Polls:
1974 - 1st Best Penalty Killer
1976 - 5th Best Stickhandler


Originally Posted by Joe Pelletier's Greatest Hockey Legends
In 1973-74 Mahovlich finally had a chance to shine. One of hockey's most underrated players, Mahovlich spent much of the season distributing pucks to line mates Guy Lafleur and Steve Shutt. He also had plenty of power play time. Mahovlich scored 35 goals and 82 assists for 117 points. The 117 points is a Habs record for points by a center, while his 82 assists remains a Canadiens team record for assists in a single season.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Team Canada responded to their previous defeat with strong play in this game. The first period was scoreless, but the Canadians used the period to intimidate the Soviets with hard body checking, especially from Cashman, Bergman, Peter Mahovlich and Parise, to throw the Soviets off their game.

Dryden ended a personal losing streak to Soviet teams dating back to his amateur career and two previous games in the series. In his opinion, the Canadian penalty-killing unit of Serge Savard, Peter Mahovlich, Bill White and Pat Stapleton was "brilliant" as it held the Soviets to one power play goal despite the disadvantage in penalty minutes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summit_Series


Esposito: Peter [Mahovlich] made the play that changed the game, in my mind. We needed a very quick goal and he took the puck from behind our net, all the way up the right side, shot it in and, blasting in there, knocked [defenceman Vladimir] Lutchenko off the puck, put it out in the slot for me. Tretiak went down, and then, on the second try, I put it in.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...ver-been-told-before/article4546471/?page=all

Meanwhile, over the remaining three games, Phil Esposito, Paul Henderson, Rod Gilbert, Yvan Cournoyer, Brad Park, Jean Ratelle, Bill White, Dennis Hull, Serge Savard, Peter Mahovlich and Guy Lapointe combined to provide nearly all of the offense and defense needed to help lift the team up and over the Soviets.

Thus when the going got tough, the tough got going. In particular, three of the New York Rangers players who were much maligned after Game 1, namely Park, Gilbert and Ratelle, were integral to Canada’s success in the pivotal Game 8 scoring key goals, playing great defensively and setting up plays all of which helped keep the team in the game until the climatic 3rd period comeback led by Phil Esposito, Cournoyer, Peter Mahovlich and Henderson.
http://www.teamcanada72.com/legacy.html

Originally Posted by CBC.ca Sports article
Ferguson's first piece of advice for Sinden was to include his former Canadiens' teammates Mahovlich and Serge Savard on the Team Canada roster. Savard wound up being one of Team Canada's most reliable defenders, while the younger Mahovlich played a key role, especially as a penalty killer.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/ho...-late-john-ferguson-and-his-role-in-1972.html

Pete Mahovlich was by far one of the team's best penalty killers. He was also a consistent physical force as he bowled over quite a few Russians during that series.
Read more: http://habsrus.:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:.com/thread/12052#ixzz3SsOxRKgH

Regards to a positive attitude shown by a young Pete Mahovlich
http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...ZcuAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mqEFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1334,2870517

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - March 25, 1970
Big Pete Mahovlich has been a revelation with four goals and five assists in the last six games while his linemates Henri Richard and Mickey Redmond have also been setting the pace.

Originally Posted by The Times Daily - April 20, 1971
A sore point was the continued use of young Peter Mahovlich as a penalty killer, thereby cutting down on the 35 goal scorer's offensive talent....

"Using the big guys (Frank and Pete Mahovlich) in killing penalties was the right strategy. "You use your best to stop their best. To use anybody else was trying to commit suicide."

Originally Posted by The Toledo Blade - May 13, 1971
Montreal's spark was lit by tall Pete Mahovlich, who was a tower of strength for Les Habitants. He, and his borther Frank, have become heroes to the Montreal fans, who've been more accustomed to cheering frenchmen like Richard, Geoffrion, and Beliveau in the past.

But kid brother Pete has caused Chicago plenty of aggravation too. Three of his nine playoff goals have come in this series and his aggressive play has led to other Montreal scores as well.

Take, for example, a first period Chicago power play with the Canadiens leading 2-1 in game four. Pete, out killing the penalty, stole the puck and forced Chicago defenseman Rick Foley into a holding penalty that wiped out the Hawks man power edge. Moments later, Montreal's Guy Lapointe scored.

Later, Peter and Frank both assisted on Yvan Cournoyer's second goal of the game.

"We've been forechecking better," explained Montreal coach Al MacNeil, "and that produces a more aggressive game."

That's fine with Pete Mahovlich.

"I play my best game when there's hitting and when I'm hit," he said.

Originally posted by The Montreal Gazette - April 28, 1971
"We've got to hit." said Pete Mahovlich, clearly the outstanding man on the ice with two goals and penalty killing that frustrated the Stars.

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - April 30, 1973
"I was really pleased with Pete Mahovlich, Claude Lerose, and Murray Wilson," said Bowman. "They really did a job when they were checking the Martin line."

Pete's Feat:
Then Pete Mahovlich turned the boos into a standing ovation at 12:36 with a short handed goal, a puck he tucked under Esposito with Bill White and Pat Stapleton draped on his back.

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - May 15, 1971
Pete Mahovlich has equaled Frank with three goals and three assists in the final for a playoff total of eight and six. He has worked centre, left wing, and penalty-killing and has been explosive when the chips were down. Pete also deserves consideration for what he did for Canadiens against the Bruins.

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - August 31, 1971
And after scoring 35 goals from left-wing, centre and in penalty killing, Peter Mahovlich also is driving a hard bargain.

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - May 10, 1971
Rochefort's role has been confined to penalty killing, but even after he and Pete Mahovlich shut out the North Stars power play in the last two Minnesota games he wasn't employed at all at Chicago.

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - May 4, 1971
Scouting Report on Canadiens:
Pete Mahovlich: Not such a friendly giant when going gets rough. Dangerous scorer even as a penalty killer.

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - September 4, 1972
Pete Mahovlich, best Canadian player in the third period, will chiefly be a penalty killer and Bill Goldsworthy, 11th and last forward, will be there in case Ellis fades. Pete and Savard will be up front on the shorthand team which, like the Russian penalty killers, is unbeaten.

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - December 31, 1973
The penalty-killing, too, was extraordinary. Once in the second period, with Cournoyer off, Pete Mahovlich, Chuck Lefley, Robinson and Lapointe ragged the puck so well that the Rangers power play barely got their sticks on the puck, let alone a shot.

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - February 15, 1974
"You know, a lot of people get mad at Pete because he tends to hold onto the puck in the other end. But I (Bowman) don't mind if he's holding on to it instead of giving it away! WHEN PETE IS IN TOP FORM, HE'S LIKE PHIL ESPOSITO. Big, strong, good shot. I don't want him to be giving the puck away."

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - March 29, 1974
As for killing penalties, he'll (Bowman) go with the brothers Mahovlich, Pete and Frank...

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - October 9, 1974
Statistically, Big Pete had his best season ever last year as he scored 36 goals and added 37 assists. But he's also valuable in other areas. He's generally acknowledged as one of the best penalty killers in hockey and his jocular, easy-going manner is invaluable in helping keep the team loose throughout the long season.


Originally Posted by The Pittsburgh Press - January 28, 1978
Mahovlich, at 6-5 and 210 pounds, frequently makes not one buth both defenseman wary of him as he unleashes long strides on a rush.

"He draws a crowd," Pronovost acknowledged.
"When two men go after him, it's got to leave somebody open."

His scoring prower heightened by Mahovlich and Brian Spencer's furios pursuit of the puck in the corners....

Originally Posted by The Tuscaloosa News - May 4, 1975
"Our power play and penalty killing are killing us," Smith said. The Sabres have scored just one of 18 power play advantages while the Canadiens have scored on 10 of 22 attempts.
"We have to stop that one weapon the Canadiens have," Smith said. "This has to be their best power unit play since the days of Boom Boo Geoffrion, Dickie Moore, Jean Beliveau, Doug Harvey and Bert Olmstead."
Montreal is now using Peter Mahovlich, Guy Lafleur, Guy Lapointe, Jacques Lemaire and Yvon Lambert.

Originally Posted by The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - January 23, 1976
Montreal retaliated at 11:14 when Pete Mahovlich stripped the puck away from Kelly and passed to Guy Lafleur for a 15-foot drive.



Originally Posted by The Pittsburgh Press - December 1, 1977
Mahavolich proved too strong a load for the Red Wings to handle, flipping a couple of them around like dolls, putting pressure on them with forechecking and aggressive puck carrying.

"From what I've seen, Pete is good in the locker room," said Penguin coach Johnny Wilson. "He keeps talking about things, making sure everybody is aware of what is going on."

He burst around a defenseman, then brushed him off like a flea, flicking the puck past the goaltender for his first goal, blasted an unstoppable cannon shot from the slot for his second goal, and rigidly ruled the slot while tipping home a Gene Carr shot for his third goal.

Mahovlich plays 45 minutes in a single game (aged 32)!

Originally Posted by The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - February 3, 1978
Mahovlich was on the ice approximately 45 minutes against Detroit. In a game loaded with penalties (Pittsburgh was assessed 15 minor penalties, Detroit 13), it was only natural the Pens best penalty killer and power play man be on the ice a great deal. It would be enough to kill any ordinary player. Since Mahovlich also plays the left point on some power plays and takes the ice for important faceoffs in the defensive zone, he logged slightly more time than Pronovost.

More evidence Pete was at least good (if not great) at faceoffs and also trusted taking them in his defensive zone

Originally posted by The Palm Beach Post - May 17, 1971
With about 11 minutes remaining the Canadiens had a scare. Rejean Houle was penalized for holding Bobby Hull, but 10 seconds later the Mahovlich brothers employed as penalty-killers, collaborated for the winning goal. Pete got a faceoff and the puck bounced off the boards to Frank who set up his 24 year old brother's second goal.

Of the Canadiens' 17 goals in the final, the brothers have contributed 13. They scored nine themselves (five by Pete, four by Frank) and assisted on four others.

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - January 15, 1971
The goalie left to slash Fergie in retaliation for the latter's shot after the whistle. Pete Mahovlich won the face off and took a shot before Lemaire converted the rebound.

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - April 5, 1972
The 39 year old (Phil Goyette) customs broker from Lachine feels the toughest duel he faces in this department (faceoffs) will be against Pete Mahovlich. "He's so tall and has such a long reach that i'll have to move in closer to try and take it from him".

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - March 6, 1975
They forced a faceoff deep in the Canadiens' end with 17 seconds left. But Pete Mahovlich won the draw from Tom Lysiak, got the puck behind the net and out-muscled Hilliard Graves and Jacques Richard to freeze it there.

The final faceoff came with seven seconds to go and again Peter controlled the draw, Guy Lapointe picking up the puck in the circle and flipping it out to centre ice as time ran out.

Originally Posted by The Montreal Gazette - December 31, 1975
If there is one aspect of the game which the Russians have not yet mastered, it is the faceoff. In that department, especially with people like Doug Jarvis and Pete Mahovlich out there the Canadiens will clobber them.


Originally Posted by The Pittsburgh Press - November 30, 1977
Wilson feels Mahovlich might be the type of guy to help strengthen his defense.

"Mahovlich comes on strong," Wilson said. "He's a good guy to have in the locker room, because when he says something, people will listen."

Mahovlich is also an experienced player who is strong on the faceoffs.


Much more to come..........
 
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Johnny Gottselig, LW
1937 Diamond Matchbook said:
Gottselig, one of the greatest stickhandlers in the puck chasing game is starting his 10th season with the Black Hawks... when his team is shorthanded because of a penalty, Gottselig is sent out on the ice to keep the puck from the opponents. At this style of defensive play, he has no equal.

Summary
  • Tall and lanky (5'11, 158 pounds)
  • Best stickhandler and one of the best penalty killers of his time?
  • Stanley Cups in 1934 and 1938
  • Captained the Hawks for 5 seasons, and was a Cup-winning captain in 1938
Stickhandling (credit to overpass and seventieslord)​

New York Times, Apr 6, 1931:
The deciding goal was by Johnny Gottselig, the Black Hawks stellar stick-handler...
New York Times, Nov 29, 1938:
Johnny Gottselig, the stickhandling magician of the Chicago Black Hawks...
Calgary Herald, Mar 10, 1939:
Johnny Gottselig is the best stickhandler in hockey. A good scorer when he has any help and a fine checker and puck saver when he is out their (sic) single-o, trying to kill off penalties.
Vancouver Sun, Mar 16, 1943:
Gottselig, for many seasons one of the outstanding stickhandlers in the bruising game of pro hockey...
Noted for ragging the puck as a penalty killer.
The Telegraph, April 6, 1938:
Sharing honors with him was Gottselig, who tied the game on his first goal, put the game on ice with his second and stick-handled the powerful Leafs dizzy when his team was a man shy on a penalty.
Ultimate Hockey:
Best stickhandlers of the 1930s – Johhy Gottselig and Busher Jackson
The Hockey News:
Considered to be the finest stickhandler to ever hit the NHL… after a highly successful career as a LW and center with Chicago, John was named coach of the team…
certainly ranks today as hockey’s Mr versatility. His lengthy career has included 15 years as an NHL star, four years as a coach and six as an executive… a center with a knack for slick stickhandling and puck ragging… his first 13 years as a Hawk were probably among the best the team has ever experienced. He was a solid member of the 1934 and 1938 squads that gave Chicago its only two Cups… with the arrival of WW2, many younger skaters were called into services from the NHL. As a result, The Hawks didn’t hesitate to bring Gottselig back for another fling as a player. Although now 36, he still exhibited much of the suave ability that had made him famous.
Gottselig’s stay with the Hawks dates back to his great puck ragging days as a star NHL winger.

Penalty Killing (credit to Sturminator and seventieslord for the research):​

Very few early era players are remembered as strong penalty killers by secondary sources. Gottselig is one of them:

Joe Pelletier:
Gottselig the player was a nifty skater and puck handler, and a noted penalty killer who liked to rag the puck. He was respected around the league as a creative left winger "who could make a fool out of you if you didn't watch him closely."

Stories were told about Gottselig's penalty killing well after he retired:

Hockey Chicago Style:
Longtime off-ice official Jack Fitzsimmons remembers Gottselig as “an entertaining hockey player. He had a special talent of killing penalties and probably was most unique. You don’t see that anymore with killing penalties, the way he controlled that little black thing you push around.

Frank Selke, The Montreal Gazette, Nov 17, 1962
Now, Ace Bailey and Johnny Gottselig of Chicago were the best men in the League at the time to kill penalties by ragging the puck.

Dink Caroll, The Montreal Gazette, Jan 12, 1943. Charlie Gardiner was sent off for a penalty at a time when goalies served their own penalties and teams didn't carry backups and had to use an active skater to cover the net for the two minutes.

Dick (Irvin) can't recall the name of the player who replaced Gardiner while the latter was in the penalty box, but he well remembers what happened.

"Johnny Gottselig got the puck and put on the greatest display of stickhandling you ever saw," he says. "We were playing Boston that night, too, and it was another of their great teams. Shore nearly blew his top trying to take the puck away from Gottselig. But for the two minutes Gardiner was off, no Boston player was able to get the puck on his stick. Gottselig was one of the ace raggers of them all."

Single game description of Gottselig's work on a pair of 5-on-3 penalty kills:

The Montreal Gazette, Jan 2, 1932
The Americans...lost golden opportunities to score when the Hawks were two-men shy on the ice due mainly to the spetactular defense of Gottselig, Abel, and others.

Regular season scoring (credit to overpass for much of this)
  • Consistent second-tier scorer for a decade.
  • Usually first or second (behind Paul Thompson) on his team in scoring. His teams were about league-average over his career, and were usually low-scoring, tight checking teams.
  • To put his scoring in context, Gottselig rarely played with talented linemates. Paul Thompson was ahead of him at LW for much of his career and played with the better linemates. Gottselig played with the depth players.
Top 10 scorers, 1931-1940

1. Marty Barry - 353 pts in 456 games
2. Busher Jackson - 353 points in 444 games
3. Charlie Conacher - 346 points in 375 games
4. Nels Stewart - 334 points in 442 games
5. Johnny Gottselig - 302 points in 445 games
6. Cecil Dillon - 298 points in 453 games
7. Hooley Smith - 285 points in 456 games
8. Paul Thompson - 278 points in 409 games
9. Dit Clapper - 275 points in 459 games
10. Syd Howe - 268 points in 422 games

Top 20 goals finishes: 9, 9, 12, 13, 13, 15
Top 20 assists finishes: 7, 7, 14, 17
Top 20 points finishes: 8, 12, 13, 17, 17, 18, 20, 20

VsX-7 year average (1926-2014): 75.0 (likely with limited PP time)

Playoff scoring

One of the leaders in playoff points for the 1930s. Played on two Stanley Cup winners (1934 and 1938). Led one in playoff goals and points, led the other in playoff goals.
 
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Ed Litzenberger, RW/C

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1954-55 NHL Calder Memorial Trophy
1956-57 NHL NHL All-Star Team (2nd)
1956-57 6th in Hart Voting
1958-59 7th in Hart Voting

Championships
1961 Chicago Black Hawks (NHL)
1962 Toronto Maple Leafs (NHL)
1963 Toronto Maple Leafs (NHL)
1964 Toronto Maple Leafs (NHL)

Goals
1954-55 NHL 23 (9)
1956-57 NHL 32 (4)
1957-58 NHL 32 (3)
1958-59 NHL 33 (4)

Assists
1958-59 NHL 44 (6)

Points
1956-57 NHL 64 (5)
1957-58 NHL 62 (6)
1958-59 NHL 77 (5)

The move sparked something special in Litzenberger. He quickly became a bright spot for the hopeless Hawks, amassing 23 goals and 29 assists in his first full NHL season. The effort earned him the Calder Trophy as the league’s top freshman.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/2010/11/03/former_maple_leaf_ed_litzenberger_won_four_consecutive_stanley_cups.html

The Globe and Mail : Apr 27 said:
Litzenberger provided one of the few bright spots for the last place Black Hawks after they purchased him from the Canadiens for $15,000. He played 29 games for the Canadiens and played 44 for the Black Hawks for a season total of 73, three more than any other N.H.L performer played last season.

Litzenberger, a native of Neuforf Saskatchewan was one of the most polished rookies to hit the league for some time.

The Globe and Mail : June 14 said:
However I am nothing if not generous with advice if Imlach has a chance to get Ed Litzenberger from Chicago as the dispatches say, what is he waiting for? Here there will be a brief pause to review the bidding Litzenberger once was one of the best righthanded shots in the National Hockey league. He won the league's rookie award and was considered in any all star ballot and most nights looked like a natural 30 goal shooter if there ever was one.

The Globe and Mail said:
But in Toronto's last five games, Litzenberger has been used at right wing on some lines and left wing on others. Saturday night against Boston he scored Toronto's first goal, assisted on the fourth and scored on the fifth. Last night in Detroit he scored again and assisted on two more. In both games he showed the puck control that once made him on of the league's more feared young gentlemen inside and opposing blueline, worked the corners as if he liked it, and generall qualified as one of the stars of the game/

"He can play either wing and do a good job," Imlach said. "In addition he's the best center I have for taking face-offs and getting the puck. When you're talking about a team that also has Red Kelly, that's pretty high praise, eh? You watch when there's a faceoff and Litz is out there, the others lt him take it. they know he can get the puck out better than anybody."

Litz was unique for having won four consecutive Stanley Cups while playing for two different teams. He helped instill a winning attitude as a member of the Black Hawks after having been traded from a first-place to a last-place team after noting a defeatist attitude among the players. Some of his teammates were satisfied with a tie. He reminded them that a tie was not a win and not worth celebrating.

He is also the only player in North American hockey history to win six straight pro hockey championships by winning the Stanley Cup in 1961, 1962, 1963 and 1964, and the Calder Cup in 1965 and 1966.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Litzenberger

Perhaps most importantly, he was the leader of the Hawks, named team captain, and he led by example with hard work and pure class. Though his scoring had dried up, he helped complete the Black Hawks return to glory by leading the team to the Stanley Cup championship in 1961!

http://www.greatesthockeylegends.com/2010/11/ed-litzenberger-passes-away.html

“Success followed Eddie around like a hungry pup,†said Pierre Pilote, the Hall of Fame defenseman who succeeded Litzenberger as Hawks’ captain. “In his own quiet way, he was a top-notch leader, on the ice and off. He knew the total game, always thinking of defense as much as scoring goals. Off the ice, few players ever were better dressers or conducted themselves as gentlemanly. He was just one great guy.â€

http://chicagosportsmemories.blogspot.ca/2010/11/ed-litzenberger-1932-2010.html
 
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Pavol Demitra, C/LW

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Awards and Achievements:
Olympic All-Star (2010)
IIHF All-Star (2004)

Hart voting – 12th(1999)

All-Star voting – 3rd(1999), 4th(2002), 5th(1999), 6th(2000), 5th(2003)

Selke voting – 6th(2000)

Lady Byng voting – 1st(2000), 4th(1999), 6th(2003)


Offensive Accomplishments:
Points – 6th(2003), 7th(2002), 10th(1999), 14th(2000)
Goals – 12th(2003), 13th(1999), 14th(2002)
Assists – 4th(2003), 10th(1999), 15th(2000)

IIHF Points – 5th(2004), 11th(2005)

Olympic Points – 1st(2010), 11th(2006)


5-Year Peak: 1999-2003
8th in Points, 88% of 2nd place Joe Sakic
19th in Goals, 81% of 2nd place Markus Naslund
8th in Assists, 84% of 2nd place Adam Oates

10-Year Peak:1998-2008
11th in Points, 83% of 2nd place Joe Sakic
20th in Goals, 75% of 2nd place Jarome Iginla
13th in Assists, 78% of 2nd place Joe Thornton​

"Throughout his NHL career, Pavol has proven himself to be an offensive contributor wherever he has played," Gillis said in a statement. "Pavol is a strong two-way hockey player with excellent quickness and finish. His play-making abilities will be an asset on our power-play and make him a great addition to our top six forwards."

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/canucks-sign-pavol-demitra-1.725244

Beaver County Times said:
"It's great" Tkachuk said of his current center. "[Demitra's] got a lot of speed. And we hit it off when I first got here/ He loves to pass. He's always trying to get open. He's always skating. It's just one of those things that we read off each other really well.
"I've been pretty lucky playing with a guy like Pvaol. He wants to score. He wants to be involved. And I think that his drive is what makes him such a great player. And I'm very fortunate to play with a great player like Pavol."

The Globe and Mail said:
Demitra returned in time to compete for his country at the 210 Olympics, however and he had perhaps the best fortnight of his career. He led the Olympics in scoring with 10 points, and was named to the tournament all star team after a sensational performance against the world's best.

* The winger-turned-center not only is scoring but has improved defensively, coach Joel Quenneville says.

The ribbing started in the training room at Nationwide Arena on Thursday in Columbus, Ohio, and took a sillier, even more sarcastic turn in the Blues' locker room Friday.

Blame it on Keith Tkachuk.

He's the one who started calling Pavol Demitra the "Slovakian Gretzky." A nickname that, when asked about, Demitra decried: "No, no, no, no, no, no."

Demitra then went out Thursday and had his second consecutive two-goal game.

On Friday, after practice at U.S. Ice Sports Complex in Chesterfield, Tkachuk edited the joke, labeling Demitra the "Slovakian Selke."

Selke as in Selke Award, the trophy given the league's best defensive forward. The "no, no, no, no" denial comes from more than just Demitra in this case, but there's no doubt Demitra's 28-point output this season is semi-rooted in his defensive play. …
http://business.highbeam.com/435553/article-1G1-80462237/blues-demitra-becoming-twoway-star
 
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Patrick Marleau, LW/C
Height: 6-2 (188 cm)
Weight: 220 lbs. (100 kg)
Shoots: Left

Awards and Accomplishments
Hart Voting: 9th (2010), 17th (2008), 21st (2004)
Selke Voting: 8th (2010), 9th (2008), 18th (2007)
Lady Byng Voting: 3rd (2006), 3rd (2014), 4th (2009), 4th (2011), 6th (2010), 12th (2007), 18th (2004)
All-Star voting, Centre: 10th (2004), 13th (2009)
All-Star voting, Left Wing: 3rd (2010), 4th (2011), 7th (2014), 14th (2013)

Offensive Accomplishments
Points: 14th (2010), 15th (2011), 16th (2014), 19th (2006)
Goals: 4th (2010), 6th (2011), 11th (2009), 11th (2014)

Play-off Goals: 3rd (2006), 7th (2004), 9th (2011), 10th (2010)

5-Year Peak: 2010 to 2014
17th in Points, 81% of 2nd place Alex Ovechkin
4th in Goals, 79% of 2nd place Alex Ovechkin, 94% of 3rd place Corey Perry
7th in Play-off Goals, 77% of 2nd place Jeff Carter

10-Year Peak: 2004 to 2014
16th in Points, 81% of 2nd place Martin St. Louis
5th in Goals, 89% of 2nd place Jarome Iginla
3rd in Play-off Goals, 96% of 2nd place Daniel Briere

Scoring Percentages
Points: 81, 80, 76, 74, 68, 66, 66, 65, 55, 54, 54

Best 6 Seasons: 445

From The Hockey News:

Is blessed with great speed, so he can catch defenders off guard by blazing right by them. Has natural goal-scoring ability, highlighted by a deadly shot and good size. Also has defensive acumen, as well. Can play wing and center.

From Legends of Hockey:

Since entering the NHL in 1997-98, Centre Patrick Marleau has shown flashes of brilliance while refining his consistency and defensive play. His playmaking skills and natural touch around the net were evident throughout his amateur career.
Born in Aneroid, Saskatchewan, Marleau notched 167 points in 53 games for the AA Swift Current club in 1993-94 before moving up to the SJHL and the WHL's Seattle Thunderbirds. Marleau was the second player chosen in the 1997 NHL Entry Draft after Joe Thornton. His 51 goals and immense potential attracted the San Jose Sharks and he earned a spot on the roster at his first training camp.

Marleau recorded 32 points and was a responsible defensive player as an NHL rookie in 1997-98. He gradually saw more ice time and recorded his first 20-goal season in 1998-99 and was invited to play for team Canada at the 1999 World Championships. In 2000-01, established a career high in goals with 25 and represented his homeland for a second time at the 2001 World Championships and a third time in 2003.

A durable player, Marleau had only missed 16 games in his first seven seasons and reached the 300-point mark in 2003-04. After seeing his season come to an end in the Western Conference Final, Marleau was named to Canada's entry for the 2004 World Cup of Hockey. Despite having his NHL season washed out from the NHL labour dispute, Marleau, who was already a two-time member of Canada's World Championship team was named to its 2005 team that captured silver in Vienna.

The 2005-06 NHL season was a breakout one for Marleau. Alongside the newly acquired Joe Thornton, Marleau established new single-season career highs for goals, assists and points. He picked up where he left off the following season with the Sharks but struggled somewhat in 2007-08.

On the international stage, Marleau, along with his Sharks linemates Joe Thornton and Dany Heatley, was part of the Canadian team that captured gold on home soil at the 2010 Olympic Winter Games in Vancouver.

Marleau would have another solid offensive season in 2010-11, scoring an impressive 37 goals to go along with 36 assists. The following year he would once again reach the coveted 30 goal plateau.

In 2014 Marleau was called upon to represent his country once again at the Olympic Winter Games. This time held in Sochi, Russia, the result was more of the same for Marleau and Canada. They went undefeated during tournament play en route to capturing the country's second consecutive gold medal.

Is Marleau really a playoff choker?

From The Hockey Writers:

How a player performs in the playoffs seems to carry quite a bit of weight when it comes to their reputation.

Perform well, or more importantly, be a part of a team that performs well, and you're untouchable. Come up short once or twice, or be a part of a disappointing team, and you find yourself in a hole that you're never going to get out of.

Sometimes, though, a player's actual performance doesn't always match his reputation.

Patrick Marleau is more productive in the playoffs than the regular season

Over the years the San Jose Sharks have become synonymous with playoff disappointment because they have yet to reach the Stanley Cup Final despite their consistent regular season success (they have, however, reached the NHL's final four two times in the past four years, which is hardly a disappointing season. Though, that first-round exit after winning the Presidents' Trophy certainly leaves a mark). As the best and highest paid players on the team, Patrick Marleau and Joe Thornton often get the lions share of the blame for the playoff exits even though both have been extremely productive postseason performers.

But let's focus on Marleau and some of the criticism he's faced over the years. It reached its boiling point in 2011 when Jeremy Roenick, analyst, Hall of Fame player, and former teammate of Marleau, criticized him for a "gutless" performance in the 2011 playoffs against the Detroit Red Wings (a series that San Jose ended up winning, and a playoff year that saw Marleau record 13 points in 18 games).

The thing about Marleau is that his playoff performances throughout his career have been more productive than his regular season performances.

Patrick Marleau Career |Goals/Game| Points/Game| Even-Strength Goals/Game| Shots/Game
Regular Season| .35| .75| .22| 2.5
Playoffs| .40| .69| .23| 2.7


At worst he maintains his regular season production (which is always at a high level) and in many areas it goes up. His goal numbers go up. His shot numbers go up. His assists numbers drop a little, but that can sometimes be the result of bad luck (not always the playmakers fault if his linemate can't finish or the puck isn't going in for him) than anything the player is or is not doing.

One more to drive this point home. Marleau made his NHL debut during the 1997-98 season and appeared in five playoff games for the Sharks. Since he has been in the NHL no player has scored more playoff goals than Marleau's 57 over that stretch.

None.

Player| Games Played| Goals Scored
Patrick Marleau| 140| 57
Henrik Zetterberg| 123| 55
Joe Sakic| 121| 51
Daniel Briere| 108| 50
Chris Drury| 135| 47
Peter Forsberg| 109| 47
Daniel Alfredsson| 114| 46
Tomas Holmstrom| 179| 46
Mark Recchi| 154| 44
Patrik Elias| 154| 43


Having the opportunity to play in so many games has certainly helped put him at the top of that list, but even if you break it down to a goals-per-game level (minimum 50 games played) he is still 12th in the league.

Hardly the type of performance you would expect from a player that was once called "gutless," and has for years been labeled as a player that consistently comes up short in games that matter. There are a lot of reasons the Sharks have come up short in the playoffs over the years (Evgeni Nabokov had some brutal performances in net over the years, posting a save percentage higher than .910 just twice in his seven playoff runs as their starting goalie, and we know that goaltending can sabotage an otherwise good team)

Despite the criticism Marleau constantly receives, he has a fan in Mike Babcock:

From Gackle Report:

Steve Yzerman raised some eyebrows last winter when he selected San Jose Sharks forward Patrick Marleau for the 2014 Canadian Olympic hockey team.

At age 34, Marleau was considered to be on the bubble to make the squad last year and his teammate, Joe Thornton, who was the NHL’s third-leading scorer when the announcement was made, wound up getting left off the team. Marleau also carried the stigma of former-teammate Jeremy Roenick’s accusation that he was “gutless” in the 2011 Stanley Cup playoffs and unwilling to go to the “hard places” to score.

But the decision to take the Sharks forward paid off for Canada. Marleau collected four assists as his team compiled a perfect 6-0 record en route to a gold medal and his stingy two-way play helped the Canadians limit their opponents to just three goals in the tournament.

But if the Olympics were being held this year, Marleau would probably be left off the team. His offensive production has dropped significantly as he’s registered just 43 points (12g, 31a) through 61 games after scoring 70 points (33g, 37a) in 82 games last season.

Despite the decline in Marleau’s offensive numbers, Canada’s 2010 and 2014 head coach Mike Babcock, who will be behind the bench for the Detroit Red Wings bout with the Sharks at SAP Center on Thursday, said he still considers the 35-year-old to be an elite two-way player.

“I do, for sure. Patty’s a good, good man and if you don’t want him, just call us,” Babcock said, adding later: “Good player to me. We’ll take him.”

Marleau wound up being a good fit for the smothering-defensive system that Babcock drew up. The Canadiens used to their speed to ensure they were rarely out of position in the defensive zone, collapsing around the net and limiting the number of quality scoring chances that they surrendered. Canada’s defense was so stingy, the team didn’t give up a single goal in the last eight periods of the tournament, including shutouts against Team USA in the semifinal and Sweden in the gold medal game.

“That’s the way he knew we had to play. Everybody realized that early,” Marleau said, referring to Babcock. “Other teams were playing that way as well. The front of the net was a logjam, so the more opportunities you got coming out of your own zone and then playing hard in the other team’s end. It’s good defense.”

Babcock is believed to have lobbied for Marleau’s inclusion on the squad because of his commitment to details on both ends of the rink.

“When somebody does that, you want to help prove them right,” Marleau said. “For all of the things that he’s done over his coaching career, you can’t help but to respect somebody like that and listen to him and go through a wall for him. I’m very pleased and honored that he wanted me on his team.”

While Marleau will likely finish the 2014-15 season with less than 30 goals for the first time since 2007-08 (not including the lockout-shortened 2013 season), he continues to hold his own, defensively, while matched up against the opposition’s top lines every night.

But head coach Todd McLellan said Marleau is still capable of producing, offensively, at an elite level down the stretch.

“He has to understand where he will probably end up offensively, and that’s okay, there’s nothing we can do about it now,” McLellan said. “But there’s a lot of things he can do to help us get to the finish line and that finish line, initially, for us is the playoffs. After that, who knows what happens? He could be the leading scorer in the league in the playoffs, who knows?”

While Marleau and Babcock share two gold medals and a mutual respect, the Sharks forward isn’t expecting to exchange any pleasantries with his former coach at SAP Center on Thursday.

“Maybe away from the rink we’d talk,” Marleau said, laughing. “But he’s pretty intense, so I don’t think he’ll be saying anything.”

From Fear The Fin:

Expected Role: Premier goal-scorer, power play and penalty kill, two-way forward

While most goal scorers over the age of 30 years old see a decline in their goal scoring numbers, Patrick Marleau has bucked (pucked?) the trend to the nth degree. Putting up a career high 38 goals in 08-09, and following up with another career high 44 goals in 09-10, Marleau settled in for another extremely successful 37 goal campaign in 10-11. One of the primary reasons Marleau has been able to keep scoring goals at a breakneck pace is due to his skating ability, which has showed no signs of slowing down and continues to be one of the biggest assets to his game.

A streaky goal scorer in every sense of the word, Marleau is prone to bouts of drought that are followed by his name appearing on the scoresheet at a ludicrous rate. A textbook example of this would be the 2011 postseason, where a scoreless binge through the first six games of the Detroit series culminated in Marleau scoring the game winner in game seven and notching a point in every game of the Western Conference Finals where he finished with 4 goals and 3 assists. Expecting this type of roller coaster ride in the goal scoring department to subside is probably unreasonable at this stage of his career; as long as Marleau cracks the 30 goal mark and continues to get hot and carry the team for prolonged stretches, his season should be considered a success.

The biggest question for Marleau heading into the 2011-2012 campaign is two-pronged and relates in part to Joe Pavelski. Both Marleau and Pavelski led the team in shorthanded ice time last season and fared fairly poorly in the goals against department at 5v4. The addition of Michal Handzus should help ease the burden off Marleau in this regard, and with other penalty kill help incoming, our hope is that the top line sees less time shorthanded in the coming year.

The second question is whether or not Marleau can revamp his defensive play and return to the Selke contender he was in 2009-2010. Following the general progression of the team, Marleau was -19 in the first 45 games last season and was a +16 in the last 37 games. That's a phenomenal turnaround. Coupled with the increased defensive depth San Jose has this season, and playing alongside Pavelski and Thornton on what is essentially the Sharks best defensive forward line, the stage is set for Marleau to finish in the black during 2011-2012 and make another run at the Selke.

From Bleacher Report:

It seems that every offseason a large contingent of San Jose Sharks fans call for Patrick Marleau to be traded.

It's only natural.

Like all sports fans, Sharks fans want their team to win a championship. And every year, Team Teal has come up short.

Since Patrick Marleau has been with the team since 1997 and the face of the franchise since the lockout, he gets blamed—for the most part unfairly—for the Sharks' failure to win championships.

Marleau has been labeled a "choker" or a "gutless performer" many times and has developed a reputation as a guy who shrinks under pressure.

However, the numbers disagree.

Marleau's .41 goals/playoff game (52 goals in 129 playoff games) is better than his regular season ratio of .34 goals/game (387 goals in 1,117 regular season games).

Of course, not all of the blame is unwarranted. Marleau does make more money than any Shark besides Joe Thornton, so he is expected to lead the team. And while Marleau has had many dominating playoff performances over the years, he's also disappeared in several big moments.

However, this really has nothing to do with answering the question of whether San Jose general manager Doug Wilson should or should not move Patrick Marleau.

As Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban recently pointed out, sports analysis is far too often dictated by generalities. Generalities are no more prevalent in any discussion than they are in the perpetual media dialogue on Patrick Marleau.

Luckily for Sharks fans, Doug Wilson is in charge of their team, not Jeremy Roenick. Wilson constructs his roster based on stronger, more concrete analysis.

The first question that comes up when trying to assess a player's worth accurately is this: What does he bring to his team?

Patrick Marleau is an elite goal scorer in the NHL. Since the lockout, he's scored 30 or more goals in all but one season. He may have peaked—he scored 30 goals last year after averaging 40 over the previous three seasons—but Marleau is still one of the 20 most gifted lamp-lighters in the league.

Marleau's game is built around his rare skating ability. His acceleration allows him to stretch the ice, putting a ton of pressure on defenses. His stick-handling and elusiveness make him a nearly impossible cover, and his deceptive wrist shot gives goalies nightmares.

Marleau also dominates the offensive ice with his intelligence. He knows how to slide into prime scoring areas at the right time, anticipates when to pass and when to shoot, and knows when to jump into the rush.

Defensively, Marleau is well above average. A true center, Marleau is great on faceoffs and excellent at using his stick to defend. He's more physical than the average speedy winger, and takes pride in playing sound defense.

The Sharks are obviously a much better team with on the ice. So the next question Doug Wilson must ask himself is this: How does Marleau hurt the team?

Marleau's cap hit is $6.9 million, which leaves San Jose stuck between a rock and a hard place.

San Jose was not a Stanley Cup-caliber team last year. They had too little scoring depth, too little speed, too little puck-moving ability and too little physicality. And while the Brad Stuart addition has helped correct the latter two problems, the Sharks are still largely the same flawed team they were last year.

Unfortunately, the team is up against the salary cap and cannot add more scoring depth, speed or physicality without moving a large contract.

The only other major cap hits on the Sharks payroll are going towards Joe Thornton, Dan Boyle and Brent Burns. Thornton and Boyle are even better players than Marleau, and Burns is too young and talented to move.

This means that trading Patrick Marleau may be the only way for San Jose to improve its roster.

Although the Sharks will not receive equal talent for Marleau—a team taking on a player who's already peaked and has a sizable cap hit isn't going to give up a more talented player—they could gain depth while clearing enough cap space to bring in another impact player.

If and when Patrick Marleau is traded, Sharks fans will miss him greatly. Even the ones calling for him to be traded year after year will see the team without him and immediately realize how rare a talent he was.

Despite this, moving Marleau at this point—for, of course, the right package—is the right move for San Jose.

It isn't because Marleau is a bad leader, a soft player, a gutless performer or a choker. It's because, after a long, tough look at the Sharks, a Patrick Marleau trade makes sense from a purely hockey stance.

The only stance that has ever mattered to Doug Wilson.

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Erik Karlsson D!!!!

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Points Finishes Among Defensemen:

2010-11 - 17th
2011-12 - 1st (He was 25 points clear of 2nd place)
2012-13 - Injured (He had 14 points in 17 games. Over 42 games this = 35 which would have been 2nd overall)
2013-14 - 1st (He was 13 points clear of 2nd place)
2014-15 - 1st (66 points)
2015-16 - (in progress through 69 games) 1st (9 points clear of 2nd place

Corsi Factor Finishes Among Defensemen (minimum of 1500 minutes played)

2009-10 - 7th (played 1206 minutes)
2010-11 - 21st
2011-12 - 1st
2012-13 - Injured (Ranked 7th but unqualified)
2013-14 - 7th (2nd out 13 players if you make minimum minutes played 2000)
2014-15 - 1st

Average Time On Ice Finishes Among Defensemen

2010-11 - 27th
2011-12 - 9th
2012-13 - 2nd
2013-14 - 2nd
2014-15 - 3rd
2015-16 - (In progress through 69 games) 1st

Norris Finishes Among Defensemen

2011-12 - 1st
2012-13 - 18th (likely would have easily finished top 5 had he not been injured)
2013-14 - 7th
2014-15 - 1st
2015-16 - ? (69 games in he's a 99% lock for a Norris finalist nod and strong leader for his 3rd win)


2014 Winter Olympics:

Named Best Defensemen
Named to Olympic AS Team (Drew Doughty was other D)

At the 2014 Olympic Tournament held in Sochi, Karlsson led all players with eight points and was tied for second in goals. On February 21, 2014, Karlsson's scored a powerplay goal in the semi-final against Finland to earn Team Sweden a spot in the Gold Medal Final against Canada. The Swedes would later lose in the final by a score of 3–0. Along with a silver medal, Karlsson was named the Best Defenseman of the tournament and was selected to the All-Star team.[31]

http://sochi2014.iihf.com/men/news/awards
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Karlsson


So Shea Weber who has 0 Norris wins and 0 playoff accomplishments is fine as a TOP PAIRING player with an extremely weak #1 in Quacknbush but Karlsson can't be sold as a 3/4 on a 2nd pairing? If Karlsson, is not impressive as an OD, then what does that make Weber? And since when was Weber thought of as a dominant player in his own end? He's better, but hardly dominant in an all time sense.

Hell, i don't even have a problem with Weber up there FTR. I'm not and never will be on the raging crusade against active players who are among the best vs their peers simply because they don't have 10+ seasons under their belt. It's not like i'm pumping Connor McDavid, with everything based on pure hypothesis.

Finishing 1st, 4 of the past 5 seasons among D in scoring (by a friggin lot, counting this seasons as it stands) is NOT impressive as an offensive metric?


Karlsson VsX totals against Dmen:

15-16 (in progress) = 120.9
14-15 = 110
13-14 = 121.3

12-13 = 43.8 (his 14 points in 17 games would have ended up in 2nd place over course of the year)
11-12 = 147.2
10-11 = 72.6
09-10 = 44.1

659.9/7 = 94.3 seven year score among fellow D.

616.1/6 = 102.7 six year score

572/5 = 114.4 five year score

499.4/4 = 124.9 four year score

389.4/3 = 129.8 three year score


And the entire notion that he's sooooo horendous in his own end is a narrative that made sense 3 or more years ago. How is it that a horrendous Dman can be a +3 on a team that is -16, while playing NEARLY HALF OF EVERY SINGLE GAME?

Better yet, how is it that the Sens give up almost 9 fewer shots per game when Karlsson is on the ice, vs off it? Or his 100 blocked shots which rank 17th among all D this season.

Is he a world beater in his own end? No, but neither was Paul Coffey or Brian Leetch for long stretches of his career.


THE OFFENSIVE BURDEN KARLSSON SHOULDERS FOR OTTAWA IS IMMENSE. ALL TIME GREAT WORHTY:

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VIDEO EVIDENCE THAT KARLSSON IS PLENTY PHYSICAL. VIEWER DISCRETION ADVISED:


























Erik Karlsson levels Kevin Hayes
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=937407


Karlsson rubs out Fedetenko
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=385774



WHAT MAKES KARLSSON SO INCREDIBLY SPECIAL. GAME BREAKING SKATING, VISION, PASSING, AND SCORING FROM THE BLUE LINE.

Very first highlight of video shows Karlsson skating AWAY from Patrick Kane and assisting on overtime GW goal:






Tremendous articles on how much of an offensive factor Karlsson is in terms of puck possession (it's absurd)
http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2014-08-07/too-reliant-on-erik-karlsson

http://ottawacitizen.com/sports/hoc...could-be-a-rare-norris-trophy-nomination-snub

http://www.silversevensens.com/2014/6/26/5841438/why-erik-karlsson-should-have-won-the-norris-trophy




How much of a load does Erik Karlsson carry on the Power Play? (it's a lot)

Karlsson:

235.5 / 256.2 = 92.5% (in progress through 69 games)
310.37 / 378.50 = 82%
335.28 / 440.00 = 76%
Injured 76.42 / 254.44 = 30% (only played in 40% of games)
315.31 / 438.39 = 72%

Weber

214.55 / 384.45 = 56%
246.35 / 409.42 = 60%
275.07 / 400.31 = 69% (11-12)

Keith

232.40 / 391.29 = 59%
251.03 / 419.34 = 60%
233.57 / 470.57 = 50% (11-12)

Subban

238.16 / 325.31 = 73%
382.16 / 473.01 = 81%
283.04 / 503.26 = 56% (11-12)


Doughty

249.55 / 365.09 = 68%
303.48 / 490.56 = 62%
285.46 / 480.55 = 59% (11-12)



Who Does Erik Karlsson play with at ES compared to other elite Dmen?


Mr Callum Fraser from the Hockey Writers posting some wonderful comparisons to who Karlsson plays with compared to Doughty, Weber and Subban at ES. Yeah, there's a disparity in talent.

http://thehockeywriters.com/erik-karlsson-is-back-to-norris-form/

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http://www.silversevensens.com/2014/6/26/5841438/why-erik-karlsson-should-have-won-the-norris-trophy

Duncan Keith had the luxury of skating alongside Patrick Sharp, Jonathan Toews, Marian Hossa and Brent Seabrook for the majority of his time on ice. While Erik Karlsson clearly was at a disadvantage playing with Jason Spezza, Kyle Turris, Milan Michalek and Marc Methot.

Granted Spezza, Turris, Michalek and Methot are not terrible players by any stretch of the imagination. However they are truly not on the same level as Sharp, Toews, Hossa and Seabrook. In spite of this disadvantage Erik Karlsson still managed to put up more points, shots and a better relative possession rating along with more defensive zone starts that Duncan Keith.


Zone Exits

Another telling statistic is the percentage of icings for while each player was on the ice at five on five. In general this number can indicate whether the team had problems exiting their defensive zone efficiently.

When Duncan Keith was on the ice the Chicago Blackhawks had 45.9% icings for. The Blackhawks iced the puck 22 more times than the opposition did while Keith was on the ice. In comparison Erik Karlsson finishing the year at 51.6% icings for while he was on the ice for the Ottawa Senators.


Making players around them better

In Erik Karlsson’s case his numbers clearly show that he made the players around him better. In fact, only one Ottawa Senator that played regular minutes had a better puck possession rating without Erik Karlsson. Who was it? Surprise, surprise it was Clarke MacArthur

In Duncan Keith’s case the players that he played the most often with saw a drop in their puck possession without Keith. However Keith also had his puck possession drop when not playing with these players. That could indicate that Duncan Keith’s success is interdependent on his teammates. While Erik Karlsson was much more balanced and was more often than not better when playing without a teammate.



This is Corsi factor without Karlsson on the ice 5v5

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This is Corsi factor without Duncan Keith on the ice for Chicago

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How dominant is Karlsson in driving the offense for Ottawa?

http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2014-08-07/too-reliant-on-erik-karlsson


For another example, take this graph below, which shows individual shot-attempts on the season at EV, and individual points percentage (or, the percentage of goals in which the player received a point):




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It's almost comical how far out there he is. The y-axis, or IPP, kind of gives us information as to plays where maybe Karlsson was involved, but didn't necessarily take a shot. Now, IPP can really fluctuate year-to-year, but it stands to reason that a player so active and so responsible in his team's offense will post extremely high IPPs over, and over, and over.

Which brings me to a final thought. I went ahead and pulled what I identified as 'high' three-year IPPs over the years, particularly for guys with massive minutes logged.

It's ... exceptionally high. And this is spanning thousands of minutes. Even if we regress Karlsson's IPP to what we can expect for a first-pairing defender, it seems reasonable to conclude that his IPP is significantly higher than most other players.




OTHER ARTICLES OF IMPORTANCE


http://www.torontosun.com/2012/03/17/bobby-orr-a-big-karlsson-booster
BOBBY ORR LIKES KARLSSON. A LOT. ARTICLE FROM 2012
When the greatest NHL defenceman of all-time watches Erik Karlsson, he is reminded of the best of the best ... guys like Larry Robinson, Serge Savard, Guy Lapointe, Denis Potvin, Paul Coffey and Ray Bourque.

Former Boston Bruins great Bobby Orr, No. 4, told the Ottawa Sun in an exclusive interview the sky is the limit for the 21-year-old Karlsson.

“I watch the Senators often,†said Orr, who turns 64 Tuesday and is president of the Orr Hockey Group that represents Jason Spezza. “I see a lot (in Karlsson). (Just) the way this kid skates. There’s nothing like a powerful skater. You can go back over the years: Coffey, (Bourque), Potvin ... these guys could motor. They had great speed.

“This kid has wonderful speed. Great, great hockey sense.
He’s not big at all. Two games ago I looked at him and I thought, ‘Holy crap, he looks like a teenager,’ or maybe it’s me getting old. He’s not a huge kid, but he’s very intelligent and very smart on the ice.

“He positions himself well. He’s unbelievable and uncanny with the stick. He pokechecks, he’s got great reach and even just shooting from the point, he gets the puck on the net.
“All the good teams that have won, they’ve all had that guy on the point: (Nicklas) Lidstrom, (Zdeno) Chara. In the old days with Robinson, Savard, Lapointe, Potvin and Coffey. He’s that kind of player. He is that important to the Senators.â€

Orr doesn’t believe Karlsson would be having this kind of success if Ottawa coach Paul MacLean didn’t take off the leash and let the youngster play to his strengths.

“I want to say one thing about the coach and whoever is allowing him to do this and I’ve been saying this forever: You get a guy who can skate like that, let him go, for gawd’s sakes,†said Orr.

“He’ll get caught. I got caught. The players understand how he plays. They accept it. He’s fast enough to get back a lot of times. You have kids coming along where (the coach says) shoot the puck up the glass and shoot it in.

“The coach is letting (Karlsson) do it and since they’ve allowed him to do it, this kid has been unbelievable. But, let him do it. That’s how he is most effective. Is he gonna make mistakes? Yup. Is he gonna get caught? Yup. But the pluses are going to outweigh the minuses.

“There are probably some coaches who wouldn’t let him go like he does. They let me go. They let Coffey go. I couldn’t imagine playing any other way and I can’t imagine young Erik playing any other way, either.â€

The biggest difference Orr has seen in Karlsson’s game is maturity.

“His whole game has changed. He’s probably more conscious of his own end than he’s ever been,†said Orr. “He gets to the puck, he gets the puck on his stick and there are no worries. That is the kind of player he is.

“The best defence is to get the puck and he gets it. He moves it as well as anybody. The forwards on Ottawa have to say, ‘Whew, that’s great, we know we’re going to get it. We know it’s coming.’ He was aware of his minus last year and he really made great strides in the defensive zone.â€

Orr is a huge fan of youthful innocence and exuberance. He views Karlsson as somebody who is only going to get better.

“He’s 21 ... hello! He’s going to get bigger, stronger, faster and smarter, which will make him a better player,†said Orr. “He’s loving the game right now. You just watch him and you know he’s loving the game.

“You just let him play. It’s like my friend (Spezza), he has a love and passion for this game. We have to keep that in our players. Making (Karlsson) sit back isn’t going to make him happy. When I was playing, if they told me I couldn’t skate over centre ice, I wouldn’t have been happy. I didn’t want to play like that. Can you imagine Coffey being told not to cross centre ice or shoot it off the glass? Are you kidding me?â€






http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on...most-game-changing-defenseman-since-bobby-orr

There is another player skating in the NHL right now that should be in that group, but doesn't get anywhere near the recognition or respect for just how rare his talents and how well he compares to the best that have ever played. That player: Ottawa Senators defenseman Erik Karlsson.

He has the awards, but he doesn't have the respect

On the surface, it would seem that Karlsson's accomplishments have not gone unnoticed. He is already a two-time Norris Trophy winner, something that only 12 other defensemen in the history of the league can claim. He is also one of three players in NHL history to win two Norris Trophies before his age-25 season, joining a club that includes Bobby Orr and Paul Coffey. If you have done something that only those two guys have done, you're probably pretty special. With the way he is playing so far this season, he not only looks to be one of the front-runners to win the award again, he might even have a shot at the MVP award if the Senators keep winning and return to the playoffs.

You don't win major awards without having your play noticed. But even with all of the production and the hardware, Karlsson seems to be one of the most scrutinized top players in the NHL. His Norris Trophies have been met with more derision than praise because he doesn't fit the traditional mold of what an elite defenseman should be. He is not particularly great defensively, he isn't one of his team's top penalty killers, and when he makes a mistake or gets beat because of his aggressive style of play with the puck, it can sometimes look bad. And we love to point that stuff out.

So how can a player like that keep winning an award that is supposed to go to the NHL's best all-around defenseman?

It's actually very simple: It's because he might be the most productive, game-changing defenseman with the puck on his stick to play in the NHL since Orr was winning scoring titles for the Boston Bruins. And that is not intended to be a hyperbolic statement (and it's also not intended to be a direct comparison to Orr, the greatest defenseman in NHL history) because there is a pretty convincing objective argument to be made for it.

And he is only getting better.

His production is nearly unmatched, both now and in the past

There have been players between Orr and Karlsson that put up bigger point totals, but they mostly did so during the pond-hockey 1980s when goal scoring was at an all-time high and every game was ending with a 6-5 score.

Karlsson is doing it in one of the worst eras for offense in league history where the game is more defensive, better coached, has better goalies, and power play opportunities are at an all-time low. And he is still playing at a level compared to his peers that is nearly unmatched in league history.


Entering their game on Thursday night against the Tampa Bay Lightning, Karlsson is not only leading the Senators in scoring for the third year in a row, but he is in the top-five in the entire NHL in scoring. With 32 points in the Senators' first 28 games, he is on a pace for 94 points this season. As a defenseman. Only one player — at any position — has topped 90 points over the past two years.

Only eight different defensemen in league history (Orr, Paul Coffey, Ray Bourque, Denis Potvin, Al MacInnis, Phil Housley, Brian Leetch and Gary Suter) have ever topped 90 points in a single season, and nobody has done it since the 1993-94 season when Bourque tallied 91 points for the Bruins. If he maintains that pace, it will be an historic season.

For his career, Karlsson's 0.79 point-per-game average is 11th all-time among defensemen that have appeared in at least 200 NHL games. That is impressive enough on its own. But when comparing players across different generations you have to account for the era each player played in. They didn't compete against each other, so you have to see how they compared to their peers during their careers and the style of player in the league. When you consider that Karlsson is one of just three players in the top-30 that started their career after 1990 (Sergei Zubov and Nicklas Lidstrom are the other two), and that the overwhelming majority of the players at the top of the list played the bulk of their careers in the high-scoring pond hockey era of the 1980s, it stands out even more.

Especially when there is nobody else from his era that is really even close to him in terms of scoring.

The next closest player to Karlsson from a production standpoint (career numbers) is Montreal's P.K. Subban at 0.63. Still excellent, but not quite at Karlsson's level. The difference between Karlsson's production over 82 games and Subban's is 14 points. That is a huge difference between the best and second most productive player at a position. That's probably worth a couple of wins per season.

The only defenseman over the past 30 or 40 years that really had that kind of dominance over the rest of his peers was Paul Coffey in the early 1980s when he was putting up some mind-blowing numbers as a part of the Edmonton Oilers dynasty. During his first seven years in the league he averaged more than 102 points per season. The next closest player during that stretch was Ray Bourque, averaging a little more than 90 points. Denis Potvin, Paul Reinhart, Phil Housley and Al MacInnins were all in the 80-point range during that same stretch. So while Coffey's raw numbers were better than Karlsson's, that reflects more on the era and style of play during that time. Everybody was scoring more then, and there were at least a couple of defensemen that scored at a similar level.


No defenseman drives their team's offense like Karlsson does

And it's really not even close.

The Senators have a pretty talented team with Kyle Turris, Mike Hoffman, Mark Stone and Bobby Ryan up front and since the start of the 2013-14 season are the sixth highest scoring team in the league. But none of those forwards make an impact on the team's offense like Karlsson does.

We mentioned earlier that he is in the process of leading the team in scoring for the third year in a row (almost unheard of for a defenseman) and during that stretch he has had a hand in more than 31 percent of the Senators' goals, either scoring or assisting on them. That, too, is completely ridiculous production for a defenseman.

To put that into perspective, the only other defenseman in the NHL over that stretch that has had a hand in more even than 25 percent of his team's goals is Subban (contributing to 25.9 percent of the Canadiens' goals).

To go back to a different era and compare that to a couple of legends, during Paul Coffey's best three-year run in Edmonton he contributed to 30 percent of the Oilers' goals only once, which is also true for Ray Bourque in Boston. And neither player had a three-year run that was better than Karlsson's current stretch in terms of contributing to their team's offense.

Karlsson's impact on the Senators' offense is the type of impact that is usually reserved for the best forwards. Crosby, for example, has had a hand in 39 percent of the Penguins' goals over that stretch. Tyler Seguin and Jamie Benn, perhaps the two best offensive players in the NHL, have been around 34 percent. Ovechkin has been at 33 percent for the Capitals. Patrick Kane has contributed to 31 percent of the Blackhawks' goals.

And it's not just the point totals. It's the fact that Karlsson can serve as a one-man breakout from the defensive zone. His ability to handle the puck and skate away from opposing forecheckers is a necessary skill in today's NHL and helps limit the amount of time he has to spend playing in his own zone where he is not at his best. In an era of play-it-safe, get the puck deep, and chip it off the glass hockey Karlsson is a renegade defender that has the confidence to make plays with the puck and use his skill.

The Senators, in theory, could try to change him and get him to be a more defensively responsible player, make safer plays and take fewer chances. But why in the world would they want do to that? It could save a couple of goals against, but it also might take away even more for them. He might get caught up the ice on occasion or get beat trying to make a play offensively, but it's that type of aggressive play that makes him such a devastating player for opposing teams to deal with.

When Karlsson is on the ice during 5-on-5 play the Senators are outscoring their opponents 32-27 and attempting more than 52 percent of the shot attempts. When he's not on the ice the score is 18-18 while they're attempting just 42 percent of the shot attempts. In other words: With Karlsson, they play like a playoff team. Without him, they play like the Edmonton Oilers.

He may not be the best defenseman in the league in the traditional sense. He may not always look the part of a No. 1 defensemen. But every time he touches the ice and has the puck on his stick you're watching a player that can impact the game unlike few others in league history.

It's time we started paying attention to that.






http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-p...ughty-vs--erik-karlsson-debate-152432666.html
At this point if you believe Drew Doughty, or literally anyone else, deserves to win the Norris over Erik Karlsson you have to be doing it out of sheer boredom or contrarianism.

No one can look at the seasons these two defensemen are having and realistically say, “Doughty is better.†The mental gymnastics associated with such a statement, if actually being made in all seriousness, ought to win you gold in Rio de Janeiro this summer.

The logical fallacy in all this is that anyone who backs Doughty knows they have little room to actually make the argument, so they have to get ultra-specific. “Well, sure, Karlsson is clearly more talented, but he's a better one-on-one defender. He's more physical. He's more complete.â€

This argument pre-supposes that Karlsson is incapable of defending players one-on-one, or rather that his skill here is so dwarfed by Doughty's that it wipes out the absolutely gargantuan disparity in their offensive capabilities.


It is, of course, nonsense. In fact, it comes down to the kind of confirmation bias to which all players are subject.

For example, if Drew Doughty carries the puck out of his own zone and turns it over in the neutral zone — a rare occurrence, certainly — there is no rolling of eyes in the press box by media members offended that he tried to do too much. You accept this as the course of action; sometimes, everyone turns the puck over.

However, if Karlsson makes the exact same play, people practically break their fingers saying, “See what I mean about Karlsson?â€

But you have to wonder, how many touches per 60 minutes does Karlsson get versus Doughty? I would venture to guess the answer is a lot more, and that he is also more heavily relied upon by his team to take the puck from his own zone to the other team's. Los Angeles certainly has more options for “reliable puck carrier†than does Ottawa.

Here's a fun stat for all you stat-heads out there who believe in this kind of thing (which by the way you shouldn't): Prior to Sunday afternoon's games, the NHL's site credits Doughty with eight more giveaways than Karlsson this season, in three fewer games. That's not good puck management, folks!

Again, we don't have data on the number of touches each player gets per game, but it's not going to be so many more that Karlsson somehow ends up turning the puck over more often on a per-possession basis than Doughty. Not that I'd trust NHL data farther than I can throw it, but certainly this is illustrative of the theory involved.

And to that end, the idea that Doughty is more complete is helped immensely by the fact that his team is — and has been — a whole hell of a lot better than Karlsson's for the last several years. Puck Daddy's own avowed Doughty-preferrer Josh Cooper noted earlier this week that the Senators when Karlsson is on the ice look like a dangerous team, and when he's off, they look like one of the worst teams in the league.

This is, obviously, not a secret. The Kings are good and the Senators are bad. Likewise, LA would be relatively okay without Doughty for a prolonged stretch. Without Karlsson, Ottawa might not win a game.

Indeed, Karlsson has the highest relative possession number in the league among defensemen with at least 500 minutes played at full strength (plus-8.42 score-adjusted CF% when he's on versus when he's off). And he leads by a mile. He also has the 16th-highest relative high-danger chance percentage (plus-6.57). And the highest relative shot share (plus-7.95). And the 27th-highest goal share (plus-7.27).

In those same categories, Doughty ranks 25th, 107thth, 38th, and 24th, respectively. And did I mention that Karlsson plays more difficult competition than Doughty? Because he does.

Just look at what Karlsson has to drag up and down the ice every game versus the absolute pleasure cruise on which Doughty sets sail on a nightly basis. The fact that he gets this club even gets this club close to a 50-50 split of possession sometimes is remarkable. Without him, they'd be last by a mile.

When people say Doughty is LA's most important player, it's a real head-scratcher to me. That No. 1 center, the one who just pulled $10 million a year, goes a long way toward making anyone look good. The interplay between an elite center and an elite defenseman is important in setting both apart from their peers. Without Jonathan Toews there is likely no Duncan Keith, and vice versa. Without Patrice Bergeron, Zdeno Chara almost certainly isn't as dominant for almost a decade, and vice versa.

How, then, does Doughty somehow exist outside the reality of that interpersonal dynamic? Doesn't playing with a player of Anze Kopitar's quality necessarily make Doughty's job so much easier? Of course it does. Okay great, that's agreed. And who does Karlsson have filling that same role? Kyle Turris.

Despite the fact that Turris is pretty good, the drop-off is obvious and appreciable.

So one must shudder to think what Karlsson looks like if he plays behind Kopitar. The extent to which he would run the league is likely the stuff of opposing coaches' nightmares. That's also true of him playing in a Darryl Sutter system, rather than one run by Dave Cameron. There is some absurd idea floating around out there that Cameron lets Karlsson have the green light to do almost anything he wants because, well, whatever. The guy's not a great coach, but he knows a nuclear weapon when he sees one, and Sutter would too.

Anyone who would try to rein in Karlsson's tendency to get up and down the ice at full speed is the same kind of person who would buy a race car and drive it around the track at 55: Someone who is wasting something beautiful. If anything, a coach with a team as good as Sutter's would probably be wise to give Karlsson more of a green light, because he's not the only player on the ice who can make a difference at the other end as well.

Indeed, to the extent that own-zone play is important, one must consider that Karlsson does far more of it than Doughty, and with greater success. To wit, it has been shown that score-adjusted CF% is mostly a fair and accurate representation of the percentage of your ice time you spend in the attacking zone. That is to say, if you play 100 minutes, and have a 55 percent CF%, you probably spent about 55 minutes in the offensive end of the ice.

With this in mind, you can take Karlsson and Doughty's CF% this year, and multiply it with their TOI, to approximate the number of minutes they spent in the attacking zone. Subtract that number from their total TOI and get their own-zone time. Pretty simple. And when you do that, you can start to get a good idea of each defender's ability to suppress shot attempts, high-danger chances, goals, and the rest, all on a per-60 basis.

You'll never guess what: They're basically the same player in their own end



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Obviously you don't want to spend as much time in your own zone as Karlsson does, but given the volume of minutes he actually plays, that number isn't actually all that bad. Since the NHL started keeping track of TOI, only 12 players have gotten more than 2,300 minutes in a season, and Karlsson is on pace for nearly 2,400.

Otherwise, though, the only particularly huge disparity here is in terms of one guy being appreciably worse off clearly in terms of goals allowed per 60. And the reason is LA goalies have a .931 save percentage with Doughty on the ice this year, versus just .909 with Karlsson on. And given that we know a) Karlsson allows very, very slightly more high-quality chances, and b) he plays with worse players pretty much across the board, I think we can safely call this a wash.

But most of all when we have this discussion, the argument boils down to the idea that defensemen shouldn't score as much as Karlsson do if they are to be taken seriously as defensemen. “Defense is right there in the name†and all that crap. But given that proactivity is often preferable to passivity in this sport — or, if you prefer, the best defense is a good offense — it must follow that it doesn't matter how you outscore your opponent, but whether you do, and by how much.

If Karlsson or Doughty were so good in their own zone that neither was scored-upon all season, then the guy who did the most to generate offense at the other end as well as be part of the defensive lockdown is clearly the better player, right? Well in all situations, Karlsson has a goal differential per 60 minutes that's about 50 percent better than Doughty's. Which is all that really ought to matter.

Oh, but the argument against this particular brand of logic, according to Kevin Allen, “[Doughty's] production would be higher if he played for a team that needed it.â€

This is unfathomably misguided.

Do you imagine that Doughty has the capability to go out there and put up a 90-plus point pace, but that he says, “Nah, I'd rather block shots?†This is the same argument you hear with Toews vis a vis people preferring him to Sidney Crosby: “He could score 100 too, if he wanted.†He really couldn't, because if he could, he would.

The last time a defenseman did what Karlsson is on pace to do this year — clear 90 points in a single season — was Ray Bourque in 1994 (which is just coincidentally the last time Bourque won a Norris; after that everyone figured out scoring a lot is actually bad and they never gave him the award again). Bourque, though, did it in 72 games.

And that was when the average save percentage was .895; so far this year it's .916. That's the difference between playing someone a little worse than 2015-16 Jonathan Bernier, versus playing Tuukka Rask. Every night, all year.

A more reasonable argument in this respect — and still a fallacious one — is that the Kings' system necessarily seems to suppress shooting percentage in a way that those of other teams do not. Does that help explain why Doughty's assist numbers are pitiable in comparison with Karlsson's video-game totals?

Yes, a little. Does it get you anywhere close to the destination on that logic train? Obviously not.

People also like to point out that Karlsson does not kill penalties while Doughty does, as though either has any say in the matter. Don't you think Doughty would love the extra 1:50 of power play time per night that Karlsson gets because he's not out there trying to block shots and clear the zone so he can go off for a change? No, I'm sure he tells Sutter, “Make sure I'm getting close to three minutes on the PK every night. I love killing penalties. I would marry it if I could.â€

Any smart coach deploys his players in the manner best suited to maximizing their skills. As outlined above, Karlsson has superior own-zone possession numbers and, when he is occasionally asked to kill penalties, he excels at that, too. This is not somehow the one area of the sport which escapes his superior understanding, it's just that his coach realizes that two extra minutes of Karlsson on the power play every night means more to his goal differential at the end of the year than two extra minutes of Karlsson killing penalties. The number of goals he creates on special teams is always going to be greater than the number he prevents. That's true both given his skillset, and just the way in which hockey works.

But because Doughty cannot carry Karlsson's jock offensively, let's instead examine the guys to whom their offensive outputs this season actually compare. And just to make it appear fair — it still won't be fair, but I'm going to try — we're going to rank Karlsson against everyone, including forwards, while only ranking Doughty against defensemen. It's tough to find comparable players for Karlsson when only looking at defenders, for obvious reasons.


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So given the ideas that Karlsson turns the puck over less often than Doughty, is just as good at suppressing pretty much everything when he's actually in his own zone, and scores more than Nathan MacKinnon (Karlsson gets 0.07 more points per 60) instead of less than Ron Hainsey (by 0.04 points per 60), and that he does it all on a much worse team, we can safely conclude three things:

1) Karlsson is a better three-zone defender than Doughty, and

2) Karlsson is therefore the only Norris candidate worth considering.

3) Karlsson is arguably the league's MVP.

At this point, all the data effectively brooks no argument.




http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/erik-karlsson-breaking-down-a-once-in-a-generation-player/
Erik Karlsson is amazing.

He is the reigning Norris Trophy winner, something he won twice before the age of 26. He’s currently on track to be the first defenceman to finish in the top three in NHL scoring since Paul Coffey in 1985-86, but he still isn’t being recognized for what he is: a generational talent.

Recall in 1985-86 that Coffey was playing alongside Wayne Gretzky, who scored an NHL record 215 points, as well as a list of Hall of Famers including Mark Messier, Jari Kurri and Glenn Anderson. Coffey is also the last defender to finish top 10 in league scoring, which he did in 1994-95 – again alongside a superstar roster of Red Wings including Steve Yzerman, Sergei Fedorov, Viacheslav Fetisov and more. And when he was posting better than a point per game in Pittsburgh, he was playing with Mario Lemieux, Bryan Trottier, Ron Francis and more.

All this during the highest-scoring era in NHL history.

The only defender in NHL history who produced more prolific offensive totals than Coffey was Bobby Orr, who twice led the NHL in scoring and posted six consecutive 100-point seasons.

Though Orr was unquestionably the pre-eminent player on those Bruins teams, he also played with Hall of Famers such as Phil Esposito and Johnny Bucyk.

So why are we discussing Paul Coffey and Bobby Orr in an article about Erik Karlsson? Context. Is. Everything. When we adjust for era scoring levels, season length, and roster size, Orr and Coffey are the only two defenders in NHL history who have displayed a greater ability to produce offence than Karlsson. And Karlsson hasn’t had the benefit of playing alongside the kind of talent those two did.


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The most awe inspiring aspect of Karlsson’s insane generational level of production is the fact that he is doing it as a veritable One Man Army. There is no comparable generational talent alongside him on the Senators. Most of the other defenders beside him on this list had elite offensive talent to play with.

Karlsson? He’s been producing his generational numbers on a team that briefly featured Daniel Alfredsson at the tail end of his career, and most recently boasts top line talent such as Bobby Ryan, Kyle Turris, Mark Stone and Mike Hoffman. They’re all decent players, but based on their current performance, none are Hall of Famers.

If we explore how much offensive contribution the individual defenders made (or in the case of Karlsson, are making) in their peak offensive season, it paints a startling picture of how important Karlsson is to his team. It also illustrates how lonely an island he is on in comparison to this group.


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Karlsson contributes more to his team’s offence than any of these elite defencemen did in the best seasons of their career, largely because their offensive productivity is less than stellar in comparison to the teams. The 2015-16 Senators rank second-worst on this list, with only Housley’s Winnipeg Jets being less impressive offensively relative to the rest of the NHL.

Since Karlsson isn’t surrounded with any comparable offensive talent, we are left to wonder how much more he could produce if he were. It stands to reason that if he had similarly skilled players around him, his results would be even more astounding.

THE LESSON
There are likely many years left in Karlsson’s career, but he is already producing offence from the blueline at a level that has not been seen in the NHL in almost 30 years. His defence is also vastly underrated, largely due to the inferior talent that surrounds him.

Underappreciated generational talents tend to take a while to gain the recognition they deserve and Karlsson is no different. Like Alex Ovechkin and his all-time goal scoring results in Washington, Karlsson should be a player you make an effort to watch whenever you get the chance. Based on what we are seeing out of him this year, it might take another 30 years for a comparable talent to come along.
 
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D, Stefan Persson

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He stepped in to the Isles’ lineup as if he had played in the NHL for years, providing puckhandling and passing that belied his lack of North American experience. - NHL.com


Personal Info:

Height: 6'1"
Weight: 189lbs
Shoots: Left
Birth: December 22, 1954 Umea, Sweden


NHL Accomplishments:

Stanley Cup Champion 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983 (NY Isles)
Stanley Cup Finalist 1984 (NY Isles)



International Accomplishments:

Selected for the 1981 Swedish Canada Cup Team


Regular Season:

Drafted in the 14th round during a time when NHL teams did not pay a lot of attention to overseas players, Stefan Persson stayed two more years at home before coming to North America. He impressed immediately:

Unheralded Persson Not Part of Rage said:
Nobody paid him a million dollars to come to North America. His signing with the New York Islanders didn't turn many heads. His new coach never had even seen him play before he came to training camp.

Swedish imports may be all the rage these days in the National Hockey League nowadays, but defenseman Stefan Persson hardly was the most sought player in Scandinavia before joining the Islanders last season. Today any team would like to have him anchoring its rearguard.

"Stef really knows how to play this game," said Islanders coach Al Arbour, the man who hadn't set eyes on Persson prior to September 1977. "We relied on a tip we got from a friend in Sweden. He said he thought Stef could play for us. He didn't say that Stef could play for anybody."
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An excellent passer, he was placed on the point of the Islanders power play, the most potent in the NHL the season before. He didn't hurt its production.

"He knows how to get the puck to the net," noted Arbour. "And he is some passer. He is the perfect type of player for that position."

The position of defenseman has changed through the 1970s with rushing rearguards becoming the rule rather than the exception. Persson has adapter his game to this.

"The guys here expect a defensive game first," he said. "I work on my defense first but I think I was more defensive in Sweden. I didn't rush and I seldom played the point on power plays."

"My game has changed here, yes. But my offensive game is built on my passing the puck.


Persson passes the puck as well as anybody, including Toronto Maple Leafs defenseman Borje Salming, generally considered the best passer in the game. Salming preceded Persson as the No 1 defenseman with Brynas of the Swedish Hockey League...
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As a 23 year old rookie defenseman, Persson set the NHL record for assists by a defenseman with 50. His 56 points by a rookie defenseman is still a Isles team record.

Scouting Reports said:
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The arrival of wing John Tonelli from the WHA will help in the muscle department, but Arbour still is searching for a leader. In time he may not have to look past Stefan Persson, the Swedish defenseman who had a spectacular (50 assists), if unheralded, rookie season.
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He would reach the 50 assist mark twice more during his career.


Voting Records:

Norris - 10, 15
Post Season All Star - 9, 13, 14, 18


Playoffs:

Persson was a core member of the Islanders' dynasty and played for all four Stanley Cup championships as well as the Finalists team of 1984.

Twice he scored 15 points in the playoffs and was a key member of the Isles dominant PP -- one of the team's strengths.



Analysis:

CORE OF THE FOUR - Stefan Persson said:
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Selected in the 14th round of the 1974 NHL Entry Draft – yes, you read that correctly – defenseman Stefan Persson was as integral a member of the Core of 4 as any Islander player.
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He was at his most dangerous on the power play, handling the right point with Denis Potvin on the other side. He was a smooth puckhandler, smart passer, and superb tactician – a perfect complement for Potvin.

In each of Persson’s first two NHL seasons, the Isles converted on more than 31 percent of their power-play chances. In 1980-81, with Potvin and Persson orchestrating the attack from the blue line, the Isles set an NHL record with 93 power play goals while converting nearly 30 percent of their chances. No NHL team since has come close to that kind of sustained efficiency.

But Stefan was no slouch at even strength, either. He and Langevin, his longtime regular partner, offered a No. 2 pairing that most teams would have been happy to feature as their top unit. Persson’s passing and puckhandling skills were a perfect match for “Bammer’s” physical style of play and ability to clear the slot.

Persson was a key in the 1980 Cup Final against Philadelphia, where the Isles’ special teams destroyed the Flyers. Persson’s power-play goal with 3:42 left in regulation sent Game 1 into overtime, where Potvin scored the game-winner and Stefan added a pair of power-play setups to fuel a 6-2 victory in Game 3. In all, the Isles had a record 15 power-play goals. And Persson was a key to making the extra man a real advantage, finishing the Isles’ run to their first Cup with 5 goals and 15 points.

Stefan kept contributing, serving as a key member on all four Cup winners (though he had to take his 1981 victory lap after having watched the game from the press box due to a broken jaw). He was a valued Islander until his retirement after the 1985-86 season – too soon for most Islander fans. He was the perfect complementary player on one of the best, most versatile defense units the NHL has ever seen – and a joy to watch.
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The matchups: Islanders too deep said:
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Defense

ISLANDERS - A deep, versatile squad. Denis Potvin has skated up to his all-star status through the playoffs and, along with Mike McEwen, is a first-rate offensive force and puck carrier. Dave Langevin and Gord Lane are the hitters and Bob Lorimer, Langevin and Ken Morrow are the stay-at-home rearguards. Stefan Persson, a fine two-way defenseman, is out with a broken jaw but hardly has been missed.
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Big said:
Persson valuable man

Stefan Persson, another Islander defenseman, is an import from Sweden who doesn't use his body as much as the team's other defensemen. But he is valuable in other ways
and he knows the hitting of Potvin, Lane, Dave Langevin and Bob Lorimer slows down fast-skating opponents.

"Our game is not the wide-open game," he says, echoing Bob Nystrom. "Our game is checking and finishing off our checks and making opportunities for ourselves."
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Islanders - If three-time Norris Trophy winner Denis Potvin plays, the Isles will be even tougher to beat. Potvin dominates at both ends of the ice. The Penguins also respect stay-at-home defensemen Ken Morrow and Gord Lane, as well as mobile defenseman Stefan Persson. But they think they can outmaneuver Dave Langevin and Tomas Jonsson, and outmuscle Mike McEwen.
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PERSSON IS HOPING TO RETURN said:
(Persson on the prospect of playing with an injured leg)

''It's not right for a game situation,'' said Persson after the two-hour workout. ''I probably won't be 100 percent but I'll be happy to get 90 percent out of it.''
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Persson was hit from the blind side last Tuesday in the opening period of the first playoff game with Boston. Dave Langevin, his defensive partner, will probably miss the entire playoffs because of a similar leg injury.

''Langevin and Persson are key hockey players in our lineup,'' said Billy Smith, who has played well in goal in the last five games. ''We take them too much for granted,'' Smith said. ''All of a sudden, they're out of the lineup and we say we really miss them. We know we need Langevin and Stefan back.''

Persson's absence was particularly felt in the second game of the series when the Bruins came up with two short-handed goals, one of them by Rick Middleton that might have been thwarted had Persson been in his regular spot.
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Nordiques Find Isles Tough said:
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Quebec found hockey's newest dynasty tough to handle, losing 4-1
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Quebec now has something else to worry about -- the return of the Islanders' smooth Swedish defenseman, Stefan Persson.
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Iceman

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Henrik Zetterberg, C/LW


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Personal Info:

Height: 6'0"
Weight: 195lbs
Shoots: Left
Birth: October 9, 1980 in Njurunda, Sweden


NHL Accomplishments and Awards:

Stanley Cup Champion 2008*
Conn Smythe Trophy 2008

TSN NHL Player of the Year 2008

*Became a member of the Triple Gold Club.


Voting Record:


Hart: 10
Selke: 3, 4, 7, 9, 9, 12, 14
All Star Center: 6
All Star Left Wing: 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 7


Finishes:

Regular Season (Top 10):

Goals: 5
Assists: 4, 5
Points: 6, 8

Led the NHL in GWG for the 2006-2007 season with 10 (shared).


Playoffs (Top 5):

Goals: 1, 4
Assists: 3, 4
Points: 1, 3
Plus-Minus: 1, 1, 2

Holds NHL record for most shots on goal in single post season with 116 in 2007–08.


Playoff Production (since 2004-2005 lockout):

1st in Goals
2nd in Points*
1st in +/-

*4 pts behind #1


International:

Olympic Gold 2006*
Olympic Silver 2014 (Chosen as the first Captain)

WC Gold 2006
WC Silver 2003
WC Bronze 2001 & 2002

*Added a goal and an assist in the 3-2 victory over Finland in the Final.


Swedish Elite League:

Rookie of the Year 2001
All-Star Team 2002 & 2005
Guldpucken 2002 ("MVP")

Led the league in points during the 2004-2005 lockout.

-- FSN Spotlight --


Undrafted Ex Red Wings and now an analyst for Fox Sports Detroit: "His technical and mental strength often leave his opponents in disbelief and his teammates amazed."

"I think the word that comes to mind to me most when I watch Henrik Zetterberg play is tenacious. He is non-stoppable both defensively and offensively, just doesn't quit on it. Steals pucks from people that doesn't expect it. He is dogged in his work ethic."

Mike Babcock: "The difference between the good players and the great players often isn't skill level, is how determined they are and how much they bring. He is a competitive guy and wants to be the best."

Ken Holland: "One of the things he does very very well.. and he also did it well in Sweden was his ability to roll around in the boards with the puck, you know protect the puck, because alot of Europeans play in a big ice surface and like to play in the open ice and they get over here to a smaller rink... there's a lot of play in tight corners and they are not as effective and Henrik's game in Europe, he can get the puck one way, roll back the other way, protects the puck, he can slide off checks and I think that's why he's been so effective in North American rink."

Nicklas Lidström: "I think he has learned how to play on smaller is surface, you have smaller ice surface over here and I think he adjusted really well and to know when to get rid of the puck, hang on to it, make plays with it, buy himself some time with the puck. He's a very smart hockey player and very poised. He can make those plays accordingly."

Daniel Sedin: "Once he made the national team, he came over here, it's been all good things. I think he has shown everyone too that he belongs here and is a world class player."

Chris Chelios: "This guy, he's just smart out there, he's got the skill to go with it, he is just a great talent... you know I kinda figured out what he does but other teams haven't yet so it's going to be tough to figure him out."

Kris Draper: "He can do it all, he's gonna play power play, he's gonna penalty kill. He's gonna be on the ice when we need a goal to try and tie up the game or when we are defending a lead in the last couple of minutes. It's just shows you the confidence that the coaching staff has in him."

Niklas Kronwall: "The coach wants him to play defensively, he play defensively you know. If you want him to produce, he produce. He'll deliver whatever coach wants from him."




-- 2008 Stanley Cup Red Wings DVD -- Red Wings players and staff on Henrik Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk:


Brian Rafalski: "They log a lot of minutes, play in every situation and they're good at everything."

Ken Holland: "Pavel and Hank are in my opinion the best two-way players in the world today."

Chris Osgood: "A lot of superstars scores some goals but they don't play defense and do little things like they do well and I think they learned that from watching Steve Yzerman play."

Niklas Kronwall: "I practice with them everyday, you play with them everyday but you still go you know "how the hell did he do that... how did they do that?"

Darren Helm: "I can dream of doing some of the things they do and you know if I'd try it'll end up not looking too pretty."


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-- The Victoria Advocate - Jun 6, 2008 --



Henrik Zetterberg also earned the right to tote a trophy, scoring the Cup-winning goal and adding an assist to lift Detroit to a 3-2 win Wednesday night over the Pittsburgh Penguins and seal the Conn Smythe Trophy.

Lidstrom became the first European-born captain to win a Stanley Cup and Zetterberg joined Lidstrom as the only European to be named playoffs MVP.

The Red Wings are Stanley Cup champions because they excel at both ends of the rink. None of them does it better than Zetterberg, whose two-way play earned him rave reviews. He is reminding a lot of people of the player Steve Yzerman became when Hall of Fame coach Scotty Bowman helped the retired Red Wings great become a two-way player.

"He certainly deserved it." Penguins coach Michel Therien said. "There's no doubt he was an important player for that group."


Source




-- The Tuscaloosa News - Nov 25, 2007 -- "Zetterberg, No. 210 in '99, now No. 1"


The 27-year-old left wing has blossomed into one of the NHL's top players, at this writing leading the league in points with 24 in his first 14 games. And not surprisingly, Detroit was off to the NHL's best start with 11 wins in those 14 contests, a byproduct of continually recognizing superior talents like Zetterberg. History now tells us the smooth-skating left wing was, with little question, the best player taken during the 1999 NHL draft, and amazingly he wasn't selected until Detroit called his name with the 210th overall pick.



Source


-- The Argus-Press - Sep 15, 2002 -- Zetterberg shows stuff at Red Wings camp

Henrik Zetterberg doesn't want to be boast. So, when you ask him what he does best on a hockey rink, he avoids the question.

"I hate when people ask me that," the Detroit Red Wing's 21-year-old center-left wing said Saturday with an embarassed smile. "You'll have to wait and see and judge for yourself"

Well, if Zetterberg's first two days of NHL training camp are any indication, he handles the puck and maneuvers around opposing players even better than he slips by a tough question.


But Kris Draper, whose squade played against Zetterberg's on Friday's opening day of on-ice workouts, was more than happy to assess the Swedish rookie's strengths.

"He's nifty. He's good on the puck," said Draper. "He's strong on the puck and strong on his stick.

Zetterberg, who Detroit drafted in the seventh round (210th overall) of the 1999 NHL Draft, has dazzled everyone so far with his play. He had a goal and four assists for five points in two intersquad scrimmages. His passing was particularly impressive.


"So far, I've seen him for eight days and each day, he seems to get better," said Detroit coach Dave Lewis, who added that Zetterberg is good defensively.


Source


-- NHL.COM May 22, 2008 --

Zetterberg was a small, wiry player with deceptive speed who was uninhibited along the boards. He always seemed to have the puck, which is what caught the attention of Wings Assistant GM Jim Nill.

Fast forward to this year's Stanley Cup Final and you are struck by these thing: Zetterberg is shifty. He's skilled. He's swift. He's solid and accountable at both ends of the rink. And he's very, very smart.

Zetterberg has dazzled opponents with his stickwork and speed, making fans marvel at his ability to do so many things at a fast pace. From a distance, the 27-year-old is magic. But there's much more Zetterberg's abracadabra act on the ice. And there's also more than the disheveled brown hair and unshaven look of a surfer.

"When he stepped on the ice for the first time in the NHL, he was already one of the more skilled players in the League," said St. Louis Blues goaltender Manny Legace, who played behind Zetterberg for the first time in 2002-03 and had to face his many head-shaking moves in practice for three years before joining the Blues. "No offense to Sidney Crosby or Vincent Lecavalier or anyone else, but there is no better player in the NHL now than Hank."

Thirty pounds stronger since draft day, Zetterberg now is a legitimate MVP candidate.


"Henrik, he's a complete player," Red Wings GM Ken Holland said. "He's got great hands, great instincts, he's great in traffic and he really sees the ice well. Over the years I've seen a lot of great players who don't work hard enough to be better. I always tell our scouts, 'Tell me when a smaller guy shows you he can do it and when a bigger guy shows you he can't.' It's clear Henrik always plays bigger than his size."

"He can pass and he can shoot at an elite level,†Red Wings captain and fellow Swede Nicklas Lidstrom said. “That's what makes him so difficult to stop, because you don't know what he's going to do. Seeing that kind of skill coming at you again and again makes defenders back off and creates openings for his teammates."


"There isn't a stronger player on his skates than Zetterberg," said Blues coach Andy Murray. "No one knocks him off his feet, and no forward has the kind of stamina that he has. He could still thrive playing two-minute shifts and playing the kind of 28- to 30-minute games defensemen like Chris Pronger, Scott Niedermayer and Nicklas Lidstrom play."

"Hakan was trying to show me another player," Nill said when asked about his first reaction to seeing Zetterberg. "But there was this little Zetterberg guy who always seemed to have the puck."


Source


-- Detroit Red Wings vs. Chicago Blackhawks Game 2 of the 2013 playoff series --


"The battle between Zetterberg and Toews will be what we are looking at here, and I'll tell you it's been a ton of them all night between the two of them and you gotta fight for every inch of ice if you wanna have it and so far tonight I have to say Zetterberg has come out on top more often than Toews."


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Neil Colville

Thanks to JFA, Rob Scuderi, and SchultzSquared for much of the basis of this bio

- 5'11, 175 Ibs, Shoots: Right, Born 8/4/1914 in Edmonton, Alberta

Recognition
  • Member of the HHOF (1967)
  • Stanley Cup Champion (1940)
  • NHL All-Star Game (1948)
  • Captain of Rangers 1945-1948
  • NHL 2nd All-Star Team, 3 Times (1939, 1940, *1948) Defenseman
Awards voting
  • All-Star Voting (Center): 2 (1939), 2 (1940), 3rd (1938)**
  • All-Star Voting (Defense): 4th (1948), 7th (1947)
  • Hart Trophy Voting: 5th (1938)
**Creamed his teammates Phil Watson and Clint Smith in awards voting when all 3 were in their primes at the same time (Details)

Stats

Context for stats:
  • Note that a 7 year score will definitely underrate Colville, who played 6 full seasons at forward, lost 3 seasons to WW2, then came back and played 3 1/4 seasons as a defenseman.
  • Colville played with fairly weak even strength linemates - his brother Mac and Alex Shibicky. Phil Watson was the one who got to center Bryan Hextall.
Top 10s

  • Top 20 points finishes - 7th, 7th, 10th, 10th
    Top 20 goals finishes - 6th, 7th, 10th, 16th
    Top 20 assists finishes - 2nd, 10th, 11th, 13th, 14th, 18th
Year by year VsX percentages:
1936-37: 62.2
1937-38: 84.1
1938-39: 86.4
1939-40: 86.0
1940-41: 95.5
1941-42: 61.1

Then Colville lost 3 years to WW2 and came back as a defenseman.

Career (6 year) average as a forward: 79.2.

Compare to the best 7 year averages of two-way centers who spent their whole careers as forwards: Fedorov 80.8, Zetterberg 79.5, Kopitar 79.2, Weiland 78.9, Kennedy 78.8, H Smith 78.0, Lemaire 77.9

General Quotes

Legends of Hockey said:
Colville moved up to the Rangers in 1936 and later centered the "Bread Line" consisting of brother Mac and Alex Shibicky. Neil was both a prominent NHL playmaker and scorer until joining the war in 1942.

From 1942 to 1945, Neil served with the Canadian Armed Forces, stationed in Ottawa where he captained the 1942-43 Allan Cup-winning Ottawa Commandos.

Upon returing to the NHL near the end of the 1944-45 season, he and his brother, both a step slower, took their place on the blueline, the first ever brother combination to do so. Neil's conversion to defence was seamless, and he became the first player to be named to All-Star teams both as a forward and defenceman. He retired in 1949 and became coach of the Rangers a year later after serving New Haven in that capacity in the interim.

Kings of the Ice said:
The trio clicked and remained intact for six years during which the three men were hailed for their nifty passing and accurate shooting. Neil was the backbone of the line, for it was his deceptive body motion that baffled defenders and created openings for the others. The line was called "the Bread Line" because it was formed at the height of the Great Depression...

According to Gene Ward of the New York Daily News, "With Neil as captain of the Rangers, it was like having a second coach out there on the ice."

Trail of the Stanley Cup said:
Neil was the centre of the line that soon became masters of the pattern-passing style that Patrick had developed with their predecessors.

Neil moved back to defense in 1946 where he played with Ott Heller, Bill Juzda, and Bill Moe. His defensive ability and leadership helped steady a team that was in a rebuilding stage.

Overall play

The Calgary Herald - 3/10/1939 said:
Colville, who is sturdy and effective, is the key man of the Rangers' one-two-three-alaree-four-five-six-alaree style of passing the puck.
The Calgary Herald - Google News Archive Search

Bill Cook on the Colville and Shibicky line
The Calgary Daily Herald - 10/28/1936 said:
"Our outstanding back-checking line, judging from their work here, probably will be the 'kid line.'"

The Montreal Gazette - 1/11/1937 said:
That one-goal lead lasted until the fourth minute of the second period when Neil Colville, young though grey-haired pivot who is a strong skater with a terrific shot, broke fast down centre, leaving the Maroon forwards behind.

Edmonton Journal - 12/23/1937 said:
New York scribes were pinning orchids on Neil Colville, Edmonton hockey product...Writing in the World-Telegram Jim Burchard says:

"The play that enabled the Rangers to win was one of the neatest exhibitions of solo stickhandling ever seen in Madison Square Garden. Even Normie Smith Red Wing goalie, doffed his hat to Neil Colville and called Neil's goal a masterpiece, adding Neil used his head, his hands, and his skates; when he finally let the puck go I was on my back picking butterflies.

"Always a cool, calculating...Neil flashed his stuff during a dizzy scramble before the Detroit nets. He took a pass from Alex Shibicky, eluded frantic Red Wings, and took his own sweet time about releasing the rubber. Not until Goalie Smith was prostrate did he act. They, with a quick snap of the wrists he lifted the puck to safe harbor."

It was a play that had enough class, Mr. Burchard goes on to state, to cause Lester Patrick to exclaim: "There's a hockey player. Brains combined with physical ability, I've never seen a finer piece of work."

Frank Boucher: "The Colville-Shibicky trio is something new in major league hockey. Instead of feeding his wings, Neil Colville is fed by them. He's the goal-getter of the threesome. Maybe it means a new era in strategy. Anyway, Neil scores plenty of goals and nobody can ask for more."

If you'd care for the estimate of Andy Lytle of the Toronto Star on Neil's puckchasing ability, take a gander at this, bearing in mind that Andrew has seen the best of them in his day:
"Neil Colville looks like a hockey player just as much as Bill Cook ever did. I say Cook because Neil with his young face and rapidly graying hair, has the thick, resistant body that Bill Cook had. He combines with Cook's strength with a lot of Boucher's speed and weaving skill with a puck at his flying feet. Like Apps, when Neil appears to be stopped in his tracks, somehow in the next breathless instant he is sailing on again."
Edmonton Journal - Google News Archive Search

The Leader-Post - 10/17/1941 said:
Boucher said that Neil Colville and Patrick revealed natural aptitude for defence work...
The Leader-Post - Google News Archive Search

Ottawa Citizen - Mar 6 1943 said:
A neat puck-manipulator, a smart ice general, the grey-thatched centre of the former Ranger line has given more thrills per game than any other member of [the] hockey cast.

Ottawa Citizen:

Nick Metz describing Colville while playing against him as part of teams with armed forces
The Windsor Daily Star - 4/21/1943 said:
..."we've got to stop that grey-haired guy, even if it means taking penalties. He's 75 percent of their team...Stick-check him and that big line will pass you right into the goalmouth."
The Windsor Daily Star - Google News Archive Search

The Leader-Post - 4/22/1943 said:
Commandos are too powerful to permit that. Neil Colville alone, the grey-haired wizard who made New York Rangers so popular and pleasing to watch, will see to it. His forechecking tosses rivals off-balance, his uncanny ability to be where the puck lands, drives a defence frantic.

Regina saw a master perform when they watched Neil at work on Wednesday. His brother Mac and Alex Shibicky are top hands in the puck business-but there's only one Neil Colville. Any NHL team today would mortgage its rink to have him on the lineup.
The Leader-Post - Google News Archive Search

Toronto Daily Star Jan 27 1945 said:
He's one of the smartest centre players the game has produced.
...
The guy is smart. In fact he's the smartest the league has produced, bar Milt Schmidt, in the last decade.
Toronto Daily Star

Montreal Gazette Feb 7 1945 said:
Colville is one of the best all-around players in the NHL.
Montreal Gazette

Ottawa Citizen - 10/4/1945 said:
The end of the war brought the return of Neil Colville and Alex Shibicky, members of a line few years back whose checkerboard passing plays were the delight of Ranger fans. However, Neil Colville may move back to a defence position this season because brother Mac Colville, the other member of the trio, is still in England and is not expected back this year.
Ottawa Citizen - Google News Archive Search

The Telegraph - 2/2/1948 said:
Ranger captain Neil Colville was asked whether he noticed much difference since he shifted from the front line to a defense position.

"You can be stupid up front and get away with it," said Colville.
The Telegraph - Google News Archive Search

Ottawa Citizen - 10/13/1948 said:
Colville, who has been a Ranger since the 1936-37 season except for his Army service...still has plenty of savvy on the defence and plenty of craft and ability on the offensive. The grey-thatched Colville would appear to have hockey for Boucher and the Rangers just when they need it the most.
Ottawa Citizen - Google News Archive Search

The Montreal Gazette - 10/5/1949 said:
A bulwark of that defence will be Neil Colville, the 33 year old grey-thatched Ranger captain who was Boucher's teammate back in 1936-37.
The Montreal Gazette - Google News Archive Search

Penalty killing
100 Rangers Greats said:
Like his predecessor [Lester] Patrick, [Coach Frank]Boucher thrived on hockey innovations, one of which was "offensive penalty killing," which was specifically promoted by Neil Colville. When the Rangers were shorthanded, they would inevitably throw defenseman Art Coulter on the ice with the "Bread Line."(TDMM - Mac Colville-Neil Colville-Alex Shibicky) Instead of ragging the puck and wasting time, the foursome would attack vigorously, as though a penalty hadn't even been called.

"One season," Boucher recalled, "we out-scored our opponents almost two to one when we were shorthanded. Credit for that had to go to Neil Colville." It was "offensive penalty killing" that also led the Rangers to become the first team to popularize a "box defense" when they where shorthanded

New York Times - 11/24/1937 said:
The Maroons were given an opening soon after the start of the second when Pratt was banished for tripping R, but Neil and Mac Colville checked the wingmen to a standstill while he was off.

New York Times - 12/12/1937 said:
Kelly drilled a close-in drive off (goalie) pads in the opening minute and the Leafs went to work with four forwards when Coulter drew a penalty for holding, but...and Neil Colville made a great success of ragging the puck.

Reference to Colville's work killing a major penalty:

The Montreal Gazette - Nov 6 said:
The Rangers not only kept Detroit at bay during the five minutes but threatened several times themselves with the brilliant Neil Colville doing most of the puck work.
Montreal Gazette

Able to handle the physical game

New York Times - 1/7/1937 said:
A Noteworthy First Offender

For a young fellow, practically a freshman, Neil Colville of the Rangers is attaining prominent notice on the crime calendar. Allan Shields has a long lead, but Neil is in the thick of the pursuing group of delinquents and may go through the season as the chief offender in a Ranger uniform.

It seems that Neil came up with a flashy reputation and some of the veterans of the league decided to find out whether or not the reputation was only skin deep. To do that, they had to get under his skin. In hockey, this operation usually is performed with the butt end of a stick. Neil underwent a number of such operations that were more or less successful and initiated at least an equal number of counter-operations of the same kind.

He found this give-and-take pleasant enough, but, unfortunately, the referees halted him ever and anon and ushered him to the calaboose to serve various sentences. Neil is a real find for the fun-loving spectators, but if Red Horner is going to be the big peace party of 1937, he ought to dye that red thatch of his. It doesn't look natural any more.
 
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Wilf Paiement, RW

Paiement was a nasty, dirty power forward who was stuck on generally poor teas during his prime.

3 straight All-Star games: 1976, 77, 78

Style

Joe Pelletier said:
Wilf Paiement was a big, aggressive, at times cocky right winger. He had a good level of skill to go with that grit
...
The big right winger with good skating ability also racked up 134 PIM. His combination of scoring prowess and physical play had NHL scouts drooling.

legendsofhockey said:
In 1974, he was chosen 2nd overall in the NHL Amateur Draft by the expansion Kansas City Scouts. The team's lineup was weak, but Paiement played a solid two-way game, establishing himself as a scorer who, like his older brother, could fight very effectively.

NHL Stats

Top 20 goals finishes - 6th, 17th
Top 20 assists finishes - 11th, 15th
Top 20 points finishes - 10th, 13th, 15th

Unusual for a power forward, Paiement was very balanced between goals and assists. Over a period of 8 seasons (1976-77 to 1983-84), Paiement averaged exactly 1 point per game. During this 8-year period, he was:

14th in goals (34th in GPG)
16th in assists (35th in APG)
12th in points (33rd in PPG)

Scored multiple SHGs 6 times - 5 in 1977; 3 in 1981, 1982, 1984, 2 in 1978; 1980

Wingers within 1 "point" of Paiement on a VsX 7 year metric: Shane Doan, Glen Murray, Charlie Simmer, Jason Pominville, Dennis Hull, Petr Sykora, Kirk Muller, Wayne Cashman, Brian Bellows, Vic Stasiuk, Johnny Peirson, Cory Stillman, Alexander Semin, Bill Guerin, Greg Adams

Post-expansion wingers within 1 "point" of Paiement on a VsX 10 year metric: Kirk Muller, Cory Perry, Thomas Vanek, Cory Stillman, Slava Kozlov, Wayne Cashman, Kevin Stevens, Bill Guerin, Andrew Brunette, Vic Hadfield, Jean Pronovost, Steve Thomas. (Gary Roberts doesn't quite make the cut, at 1.1 behind).

International record
  • Selected to play for Team Canada in the 1977, 1978, and 1979 World Championships.
  • 14 goals, 9 assists, 23 points in 28 World Championship games over these 3 years
  • Selected (along with Sergei Makarov) the best player at the 1979 World Championships
 

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Dave Taylor, RW
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(thanks to Leafs Forever for the stats/awards)

1 x Second Team AST RW(1981)
7th in Selke voting (1981)

Goal Finishes: 6th(1979), 11th(1981), 20th(1985), 23rd(1982), 27th(1980), 41st(1986)

Assist Finishes: 9th(1981), 9th(1982), 15th(1980) 20th(1979), 31st(1985), 32nd(1984), 39th(1987)

Point Finishes: 5th(1981), 9th(1982), 9th(1979), 17th(1980), 22nd(1985)

The Complete Handbook of Pro Hockey 1980 said:
...Taylor, who was very close to being the best all-around leftwinger in the league last year...Astoundingly, this tough, hard-working leftwinger wasn't selected until the 15th round of the 1975 draft...Strength and passing ability in corners helped Marcel Dionne score 59 goals and he also kept foes from taking liberties with the star centerman,
The Complete Handbook of Pro Hockey 1981 said:
One of the best all-around wingers in the game...Fine scorer and playmaker, strong checker, uses size and strength well in the corners and delivers maximum effort every game...One of the team's leaders
The Complete Handbook of Pro Hockey 1982 said:
Superior all-around player every team would like to have...Good offensively (112 points in 1980-81), excellent defensively, tough in the corners and hard hitter...His sound positional play allows linemates Dionne and Simmer to ramble...
The Complete Handbook of Pro Hockey 1983 said:
Could be prototype for complete winger...Strong, aggressive, good scorer and playmaker (106 points in 1981-82), sound defensively, tough in corners...Doesn't have great speed but that's his only flaw.
The Complete Handbook of Pro Hockey 1984 said:
Broken wrist he suffered early in season had a big influence on team's missing playoffs...High-quality winger who could have changed outcome of some of 34 games he missed...Big, strong, aggressive, a good scorer and playmaker...
The Complete Handbook of Pro Hockey 1985 said:
Complications from a broken wrist suffered early in 1982-83 have dogged this premier player for the past two seasons...Can do it all - skate, shoot, score, make plays and hit hard...
The Complete Handbook of Pro Hockey 1986 said:
Bounced back from injury plagued 1983-84 season with 41 goals, 92 points last season...One of the best all-around right wings in NHL...A proven scorer who is willing to check and hit...One of the league's hardest-hitting forwards.
The Complete Handbook of Pro Hockey 1987 said:
Plays the game physically, often at risk of body and limb...Creates havoc in front of nets...
Hockey Scouting Report 1986-87 said:
The Finesse Game
Taylor is a very gifted offensive player; he can do it all. He is an excellent skater, very strong on his skates and very difficult to knock down because of his balance...He can slip a pass through a maze of players, or lead a teammate to an opening...Taylor is very good in traffic because he can take his lumps yet maintain his concentration...Taylor is deadly from in front, very opportunistic and quick to pounce on loose pucks (combined with his anticipation and strength, that's why he's so good on the power play), but he can also drive the puck past the goaltender from anywhere with a terrific slap shot.

Defensively Taylor is very solid, playing his man deep into the Kings' end. He is an excellent checker in all three zones.

The Physical Game
Taylor hits hard whenever possible and will deliver a hit per shift when he can. He is not intimidated and will hit anyone in the league, regardless of size or reputation. On the other hand, Taylor has a reputation himself for being a tough player and he does have a mean streak. He will go after goaltenders by crashing their nets and he will go after the defensemen who protect the goaltenders...Taylor has great strength and is a bulldog in the corners and along the boards, hitting whoever he can to jar the puck free, or just out and out out-muscling the opposition along the boards.

The Intangibles
Taylor is a very hard worker and goes all out all the time. He is an excellent two-way player and a leader for the Kings.

Taylor is the type of player every team needs. He is one of the NHL's best players.
Hockey Scouting Report 1988-89 said:
The Finesse Game
He can change direction quickly and that's what makes him so effective in traffic. He also uses his skating to be an excellent forechecker, and he uses his strength to drive to the net...Because he can make a top play coming out of the corner, Taylor might be the best corner and boards guy in the NHL.
 

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Eric Lindros, C

Basic Stats and awards

  • Hart voting (1, 3*, 6, 9, 9) *behind Lemieux and Messier
  • All-Star C Voting - (1, 2*, 3**, 5, 7, 9) *behind Lemieux **behind Forsberg and Yashin
  • Lester B. Pearson Award Winner in 1995
  • won an Olympic Gold medal with Canada in 2002.
  • led the 1996-97 post-season in scoring with 26 points (before being embarassed in the finals as the Red Wings focused everything to stop him)
  • scored 372 goals, 493 assists for 865 points in 760 regular season games played, adding 1398 penalty minutes.
  • scored 24 goals, 33 assists for 57 points in 53 playoff games played, adding 122 penalty minutes.
Deeper look at his stats

If you remove the years following the infamous Scott Stevens hit in the 2000 playoffs, Lindros rank sixth all time in points per game. The only players to rank ahead of him would be Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Mike Bossy, Sidney Crosby and Bobby Orr.

Games played at top 5, 10, 20 paces

Lindros is a guy who regularly missed 15-25 games per season (and IMO it was his own fault for the way he played). But he was consistently dominant when he played over a pretty good sample of games. According to hfboards poster matnor, as of the end of the 2012-13 season, Lindros ranked 31st all time with 338 GP at a top 5 pace. And 34th all time with 528 GP at a top 10 pace (basically equal to Lafleur in # of games at a top 10 pace): http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=878672

Not outstandingly long, but his time as a top player was not brief. Just interrupted by regular injuries.

Here is is compared to guys who came up at the same time as him during the HOH Centers project:

Top-5

Rank | Player | GP at top-5 pace
31. | Eric Lindros | 338
47. | Joe Thornton | 240
48. | Evgeni Malkin | 239
49. | Peter Stastny | 237
56. | Adam Oates | 220
64. | Dale Hawerchuk | 164
72. | Alex Delvecchio | 162
86. | Ron Francis | 152
100. | Doug Gilmour | 82
100. | Gilbert Perreault | 82

Top-10

Rank | Player | GP at top-10 pace
15. | Alex Delvecchio | 706
34. | Eric Lindros | 528
46. | Peter Stastny | 476
60. | Joe Thornton | 388
74. | Gilbert Perreault | 316
81. | Evgeni Malkin | 306
91. | Ron Francis | 287
101. | Doug Gilmour | 244
126. | Adam Oates | 220
133. | Dale Hawerchuk | 164

Top-20

Rank | Player | GP at top-20 pace
6. | Alex Delvecchio | 1193
27. | Gilbert Perreault | 796
36. | Dale Hawerchuk | 729
39. | Joe Thornton | 708
41. | Adam Oates | 698
42. | Peter Stastny | 692
43. | Ron Francis | 688
81. | Eric Lindros | 528
107. | Evgeni Malkin | 437
129. | Doug Gilmour | 392

End-of-season scoring finishes

Lindros is a guy who regularly missed 15-25 games per season (and IMO it was his own fault for the way he played). But he still managed to accumulate a few more significant seasons than (for example) Malkin did.

Here are Lindros' scoring finishes from his rookie year until his final major concussion in 2000:

1992-93: 67th
1993-94: 11th
1994-95: 1st (tie) (Hart Trophy, 1st Team All Star)
1995-96: 6th (3rd in Hart voting, 2nd Team All Star to Lemieux)
1996-97: 23rd (9th in Hart voting)
1997-98: 20th
1998-99: 8th (6th in Hart voting, 3rd Team All Star to Forsberg and Yashin)
1999-00: 55th

Seasons finishing 20th-23rd in scoring are not all-time great seasons, but they are still significant seasons in the modern NHL. And Lindros did this while playing like a wrecking ball. Lindros basically had 6 straight seasons as a force before injuries really started to pile up in 99-00.

Lindros missed 00-01 recovering from the major concussion, then had 1 more decent season as basically a perimeter player.
01-02: 17th
02-03: 83rd

Point per game finishes

I'm just copying and pasting these from hockey-reference.com, which only has top 10 finishes.

Lindros:
1993-94 NHL 1.49 (3) - behind Gretzky and Neely
1994-95 NHL 1.52 (1) - ahead of Jagr
1995-96 NHL 1.58 (3) - behind Lemieux and Jagr
1996-97 NHL 1.52 (2) - behind Lemieux
1997-98 NHL 1.13 (6)
1998-99 NHL 1.31 (4) - behind Jagr, Selanne, and Sakic
1999-00 NHL 1.07 (9)
2001-02 NHL 1.01 (9)

On a per-game basis, Lindros had 7 straight seasons as a force (though he came close to missing the GP threshold in 99-00).

Hockey Outsider said:
This is based on hockey-reference's adjusted stats. Two disclaimers. One, I'm not completely sold on the accuracy of the stats across eras (but I`m not sure if there`s a big difference from 1993 to 2013) Two, I had to manually calculate games played (lockout seasons adjusted up to 48 games).

- Malkin's career statistics through 2013: 480 games, 246 goals, 379 assists, 625 points
- Lindros's statistics (see note): 480 games, 292 goals, 389 assists, 681 points

Note: I`ve included Lindros`s seven best seasons in PPG (listed chronologically): 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 and 2000. I`ve also included one-third of his 8th best season, 2002, as this gives him 480 games, just like Malkin.

82 game rates as follows:

Lindros: 82 games, 50 goals, 66 assists, 116 points
Malkin: 82 games, 42 goals, 65 assists, 107 points

Quotes (via EagleBelfour and Velociraptor's profiles)

Toronto Star Coaches’ Poll said:
Best Bodychecker: Eric Lindros (9), Bryan Marchment (3), Scott Stevens (3), Wendel Clark (1), Keith Tkachuk (1), Darius Kasparaitis (1), Adam Graves (1), Mark Tinordi (1)
Best Stickhandler: Jaromir Jagr (5), Sergei Fedorov (4), Alexander Mogilny (4), Wayne Gretzky (3), Eric Lindros (1), Alexei Zhamnov (1), Pierre Turgeon (1), Sergei Nemchinov (1)
Toughest Player: Cam Neely (5), Eric Lindros (3), Wendel Clark (2), Doug Gilmour (2), Bob Probert (1), Scott Stevens (1), Chris Chelios (1), Marty McSorley (1), Mark Tinordi (1), Adam Graves (1), Rick Tocchet (1), Brendan Shanahan (1)
Best Shot: Brett Hull (6), Al MacInnis (4), Mike Modano (2), Eric Lindros (1), Mike Gartner (1), Ray Bourque (1), Jimmy Carson (1), Alexander Mogilny (1), Joey Mullen (1), Cam Neely (1), Sergei Fedorov (1)

Mark Messier said:
No one can play with his size, which he combines with great skill, it separates him from anybody who played this game.

Bobby Clarke said:
I believe he should be in (HHoF). He was the first big, powerful, dominant forward with the skill, not (Wayne) Gretzky or (Mario) Lemieux, but close. He won MVP, he was an All-Star, he went to the Stanley Cup final. If you eliminate the crap that circled him, he is easily a Hall of Fame hockey player. The last few years were really tough but prior to that Eric was just a player playing hockey. Had his parents left him alone I don't know what this kid could have done because he could really play.

John LeClair said:
Big E was a player that dominated every time he stepped on the ice. He set his personal standards high for himself and his teammates pushed themselves because of that. Players fed off his commitment to get better every practice and his desire to win. He was a captain that made everyone on the team better.

NY Times - May 30 said:
Although Lindros modeled his style after Messier's, he is 12 years younger. At 6-foot-4 and 236 pounds, Lindros is 3 inches taller and 31 pounds heavier than Messier. And more than any player, Lindros hits opponents with the force and aggression of a football player while moving the puck with the delicacy of a golf pro.

Spokane Review - May 30 said:
Having Eric Lindros is like owning the biggest bomb in the arsenal. It does not have to be detonated to be effective. The threat is enough.
 

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Big credits to seventieslord, whose bio provided a great foundation to work with, and Rob Scuderi, who helped out a lot with determining the scoring numbers for Walsh and his teammates.

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Marty Walsh, C

Height: 5-7 (170 cm)
Weight: 155 lbs. (70 kg)
Shoots: Left

Stanley Cup Champion (1909, 1910*, 1911)
Honoured Member of the Hockey Hall of Fame (1963)

*played and won a challenge against Galt during the CHA season, before Ottawa joined the NHA, then won another Cup challenge against Edmonton, for this reason Ottawa was considered co-champions of the Cup since the Wanderers won it during the NHA season, source

Awards
ECAHA/ECHA First All-Star Team (1908, 1909)
ECHA MVP (1909)

Overall Scoring
1903-1904 (CIAU): 1st (128.6% of 2nd place Wallace Gilbert) (included Billy Gilmour who played for a different team and scored 5 points to Walsh's 9)
1904-1905 (CIAU): 7th (38.5% of 1st place Alexander McCallum) (included Billy Gilmour who played for a different team and scored 6 points to Walsh's 5)
1905-1906 (CIAU): 1st (136.4% of 2nd place George Richardson) (included Billy Gilmour and Frank Patrick, who played on the same team together (different one then Walsh) and scored 5 and 6 points, respectively, to Walsh's 15)
*1906-1907 (IHL): not relevant (14.1% of 1st place Billy Taylor)
1907-1908 (ECHA): 2nd (90.3% of 1st place Russell Bowie)
1908-1909 (ECHA): 1st (131% of 2nd place Herb Jordan)
**1909-1910 (CHA): T-1st (128.6% of 3rd place Jack Marks)
***1909-1910 (NHA): 8th (50% of 1st place Newsy Lalonde)
1910-1911 (NHA): 1st (106% of 2nd place Dubbie Kerr)
****1911-1912 (NHA): not relevant (25.7% of 1st place Skene Ronan)

*Walsh only played 7 games, missing just over 2/3rds of the season due to injury. That being said, he still only had 48.2% of Taylor's points per game. Interestingly, however, looking at assists per game, Walsh would have placed 3rd, 95.2% of Taylor in 2nd place. Lorne Campbell ran away with assists that year, scoring 138.9% of Taylor. Much too small a sample to draw any meaningful conclusions, but it does corroborate well with the anecdotes about Walsh being effective in combination plays and passing the puck.

**This was a semi-top level league at the time that only lasted 4 games maximum for the teams. The NHA then absorbed some of the teams and the league ceased operations.

***Walsh was playing hurt for a good portion of this season, likely hurting his scoring.

****Ronan actually replaced Walsh for the vast majority of this year as the Senators' starting centerman. I am still not sure why, but Walsh was relegated to a utility forward/spare. In my research, I was unable to come up with anything about his play deteriorating at all. Read more in the So what happened in the 1911-1912 season? section.

Overall Playoff Scoring
*1905-1906 (CAHL): 5th (50% of 1st place Harry Smith)
1909-1910 (CHA): 1st (200% of 2nd place Bruce Stuart)
**1909-1910 (NHA): 2nd (80% of 1st place Bruce Stuart)
***1910-1911 (NHA): 1st (185.7% of 2nd place Tommy Smith)

*This is for the Ottawa-Queen's U series ONLY. Ottawa went on to play Smith's Falls and the Wanderers, where McGee padded his lead to 17 goals, which would have put Walsh at 23.5% of McGee. Walsh finished 5th place in scoring either way. McGee scored 6 goals against Queen's U and went on to score 9 against Smith's Falls. Seems Walsh really made a difference defensively against McGee.

**This includes all of the games Ottawa played, which flatters Walsh slightly, as Whitcroft had a higher points per game (2.5), and Gordon Roberts also had a higher points per game (3.5), compared to Walsh (2.0).

***This includes only all Ottawa games, which actually hurts Walsh, as he played only 2 games compared to 2nd place Tommy Smith, who played 3.

Team Scoring
1903-1904 (CIAU): 1st (150% of George Richardson)
1904-1905 (CIAU): 2nd (83.3% of George Richardson)
1905-1906 (CIAU): 1st (136.4% of George Richardson)
1907-1908 (ECHA): 1st (107.7% of Tommy Phillips)
1908-1909 (ECHA): 1st (172.2% of Bruce Stuart)
1909-1910 (CHA): 1st (225% of Bruce Stuart)
1909-1910 (NHA): 1st (118.8% of Bruce Ridpath)
1910-1911 (NHA): 1st (106% of Dubbie Kerr)
1911-1912 (NHA): not relevant (25.7% of Skene Ronan)

Team Playoff Scoring
1905-1906 (CAHL): 1st (150% of George Richardson)
1909-1910 (CHA): 1st (200% of Bruce Stuart)
*1909-1910 (NHA): 2nd (80% of Bruce Stuart)
1910-1911 (NHA): 1st (325% of Bruce Stuart)

*Gordon Roberts would have beaten both Stuart and Walsh if he played 4 games like they did, and maintained his scoring pace.

Legends of Hockey
Marty Walsh was one of the few players on the roster of the great Ottawa Senators teams of 1909 to 1911 who was not born in that city. He was born in Kingston, and played his early hockey with Queen's University where the team won the Intercollegiate Union title in 1906 and mounted an unsuccessful challenge against the Ottawa Silver Seven for the Stanley Cup. He turned pro with the Canadian Soo of the IHL in 1906-07 but broke his leg during the year and appeared in only seven games of the 24-game schedule before joining the Senators the following year. In his first year with Ottawa, he led the league with 27 goals in nine games, including a seven-goal outburst against Montreal on March 7, 1908.

He added to his records the following season by scoring 42 goals in just 12 games as the Senators went on to capture the Stanley Cup as champions of the ECHA with a 10-2-0 record. Walsh scored six goals in a 12-3 opening game victory against Galt in the Cup challenge of January 5 and 7, 1910 as Ottawa went on to a two-game, total-goals victory by a margin of 15-4. The Senators made another successful Cup defense later in the same month, this time against Edmonton, but lost the sacred bowl to the Montreal Wanderers because Montreal won the 1909-10 NHA title.

The Senators were back as Cup holders the following season after having won the NHA crown and assuming the title from the Wanderers. Ottawa defended its title against a challenge from Port Arthur in March 1911 by a two-game score of 21-8. In the second game of the series, played on March 16, 1911 in Ottawa, Walsh scored an amazing ten goals in the Senators 14-4 victory.

Marty Walsh was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1962.

Wikipedia
In 1912, Walsh left for Winnipeg with Dubby Kerr to start a cattle ranch. Their plans changed when Kerr was lured out of retirement to play in the new Pacific Coast Hockey Association (PCHA). There were reports that the PCHA had signed Walsh as well, but he remained retired. In 1913, Walsh moved west to the Edmonton area, where he worked as a paymaster for the Grand Trunk Railway. While in Edmonton, he coached the Edmonton Eskimos team for two seasons. He guided the Eskimos to the 1913 Inter-City Hockey League title and a Allan Cup challenge.

In 1914, Walsh fell ill with tuberculosis. In February 1915, Walsh entered the Gravenhurst Sanitorium for treatment, but when admitted, the doctors estimated he had only a short time left to live. Walsh died on March 27, 1915. His remains were transported to Kingston for burial in St. Mary's Cemetery after a funeral at St. Mary's Cathedral. At his death, Walsh's only relative was his sister Loretta Keaney of Sudbury.

The Cup challenge against Ottawa

There are some anecdotes from the 1906 challenge when Walsh's Queen's U played against Ottawa.

Originally Posted by Trail of the Stanley Cup, Vol. 1
The match was described as a sorry show with the college boys hopelessly outclassed...One player stood out for Queens however and that was Marty Walsh who displayed some of the form he was to show when he joined Ottawa two years later.

Originally Posted by The Trail Of the Stanley Cup, Vol. 1
When the Ottawa Silver Seven turned back the challenge of Queens University in decisive fashion in 1906, Frank McGee found the opposing centre Marty Walsh a worthy opponent. Consequently after McGee's retirement the Senators tried to get the college star... Walsh was the star center for Ottawa, and flanked by Ridpath, Kerr and Darragh the Senators won the Stanley Cup twice... Marty was a very nimble and tricky skater with the knack for always being in a position for a shot, as his great scoring record shows.

Originally Posted by Montreal Gazette, 1906-02-28 (regarding failed Cup Challenge by Queens University)
Marty Walsh at rover for the Queens seven was not surpassed in brilliancy by any member of the Ottawas. The little fellow did good work for his team, but it counted for very little, owing to the fact that he received poor assistance...

Lead up to his first season

Marty Walsh's coming was met with great enthusiasm from the Ottawa faithful. He was very highly sought after by a number of clubs and starred in both the CIAU and IHL, as well as in the Cup challenge by Queen's in 1906 before he came over to the ECAHA. In the practices leading up to Ottawa's first game, he impressed those that watched him with his speed, stick-handling and physicality. He would also prove to be adept at back checking, something that he rapidly got better at over his years in Ottawa.

Ottawa Citizen - Nov. 30, 1907
Marty Walsh, the crack hockey player, hailing from Kingston, may play with the Ottawas this season. Walsh is expected in Ottawa today, when the deal to have him wear a red, white, and black uniform may be closed.

Walsh has been at Montreal, where he is employed, and Wanderers, Shamrocks, and Montreals have been claiming his services. ... Marty appeared in Ottawa two years ago, playing on the forward line of the Queen's hockey club when it challenged for the Stanley cup. He was easily the star of the Queen's aggregation, and last season he figured in the American Soo team. Walsh soon proved his mettle in the International, but had a bone in his ankle broken in one of the strenuous games at the Soo.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 3, 1907 (scroll down a bit to "Marty Walsh Here")
Walsh is in the finest condition and would like to play with the Senators. He was badly injured in an International match last year, but shows no effects of the injury. Walsh is rather small, but sturdy, and was one of the fastest men in the International.

The Senators brass wanted the fastest possible team. That Marty figured into the equation speaks well of his skating ability, especially when it is considered that Fred Taylor, and eventually Tommy Phillips joined the team.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 5, 1907
The committee reported the signing of Fred Taylor and that they had practically closed with Marty Walsh. They were instructed to proceed with their arrangements and gather the fastest possible team for the season.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 7, 1907 (scroll up and to the right slightly)
Several Ottawa players, who figured in the International league last year, and who played against Walsh, state that, before he was injured, the little Kingston player was the "whole tip" on the Soo team. Walsh, while small of stature, is very fast, an excellent stick-handler and has plenty of sand - something that he is apt to find handy in the Eastern Canada league.

The following 5 passages describe play in practices leading up to their first game. Note that practices appeared to be closer to exhibitions of play rather than actual practices. Many fans turned out to watch the players go at it, so the players would often play in game form to put on a good show.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 17, 1907
Marty Walsh had a poor pair of skates and was unable to do himself justice, but he has the ear marks of a winner and will probably make good all right.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 18, 1907
Monday night Marty Walsh was not in condition to play, having traveled all day. Last evening he had a pair of boots that fitted him too soon, but he did much better than in his first appearance. Walsh is very fast, and some of the rushes which he and Alf Smith, Westwick, and Taylor effected were as pretty as one would wish to witness. Walsh is not in shape yet, and he did not follow back with as much consistency as did the others, but he evidently has the goods, and should deliver them in large, tidy parcels when he gets down to fighting trim. Marty is aggressive, and willing to take chances.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 20, 1907
Marty Walsh is still somewhat slow for the other forwards, but in each practice he has shown remarkable improvement. He is rapidly learning the style of Westwick and Smith, and is evidently all to the good for the center position.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 23, 1907 (scroll to page 5)
Marty Walsh is looking better every practice. He was again at center and figured in some great combination with Alf Smith and Westwick. Marty followed back very effectively and the manner in which he frequently darted in on the goal and (couple words can't read) or batted the rubber past Lesueur reminded many of Russell Bowie of the Montreal Vics. The general opinion is that Walsh will make good.

The Senators brass decided to take Walsh along and give him a shot to see what he could do. It took exactly 1 game before he was made the full-time center, over Fred Taylor, who was certain to play the position. A mighty fine compliment indeed, especially considering the form Taylor was in for this season.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 3, 1908
It is practically certain that Fred Taylor will be in the center position, but the executive decided to take Walsh along also, and there is a possibility that the fast little Kingston boy will be given a chance to prove his mettle before the end of the match.

The above was just to give everyone an idea of what the Senators were to expect with Walsh going into the season. Before I go into the detailed in game reports of Walsh's work, I want to post a wonderful summary of his play style from the 1910-1911 season, when he was at the very top of his game. This should give everyone a good idea of the type of player Walsh is, and what he brought to the Senators as a player.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 26, 1911
"If you don't keep away from these nets, I will give you something that will send you to the dressing room."

"I'll stick right here just as long as I see fit to do so."

Such was the dialogue which, during the overtime period of the Ottawa-Canadien game on Saturday last, passed between Jack Laviolette, the famous point man of the visitors, and Marty Walsh, the dashing center forward of the Ottawas. Two minutes later Walsh was again wedged within two feet of Vezina, batting and slashing at everything that came his way. Suddenly the puck slid out from Darragh's stick, caromed against Walsh and plunked in the twine behind the French goalkeeper, thus winning for Ottawa the hardest match fought in ottawa for many seasons.

That's how the Kingston "phenom" gets most of his goals. As a rule Marty isn't a showy player. He cannot skate like Taylor and hasn't been blessed with the beautiful foot work of the lightning-like Kerr. He isn't as spectacular as Ridpath and at times he looks as though he were going to drop. Many, in fact, have been foolish enough to insinuate that Walsh isn't worthy of the position, which for four seasons he has occupied. But on Saturday last Marty slashed Poulin and was banished for five minutes. The Ottawa defence was demoralized, their attack seemed to melt to pieces, and before the Kingstonian's penalty had expired Canadiens had tied the score. "Oh for Marty," sighed Manager Pete Green in despair. Then another figure darted out from behind the penalty box; Walsh got back into action and Canadiens were repulsed. In the overtime Walsh was in a class by himself. His activity eventually had its reward the goa' that settled the fate of the tricolor team really coming as the result of his tactics in close quarters.

Russell Bowie calls him "Stick-around" Walsh, a name which his recent work has earned him. Marty now leads the N.H.A. in goalgetting, showing his true form in Tuesday's match when he sidestepped through the Renfrew defense for six of the most beautiful goals ever scored. To Walsh they came like taking candy from a baby. Marty's checking back has rescued the Ottawa defence from many a perilous position this winter. He is always there with the poke and jab when the rubber is dangerously near the peerless Lesueur. Walsh, owing to illness, was not in his best form in 1910. He has "come back" in earnest, however, and will probably be the unanimous choice for the center position on the All-Canadian seven. Marty gets many a nasty jar for the chances which he takes in loafing around the opposing net, Glass, Lalonde, Mallen and others often warning their defence men to watch him. He has never yet been forced to leave the ice for good, however, the most serious hockey injury sustained by the former football star being a fractured ankle which he received when "Doc" Scott fell on top of him in an International League match at Sault Ste. Marie five seasons since. Marty is one of the few Kingstonians who has made good in the "big show".

The following will be detailed in game reports of Walsh's work, in generally chronological order, sorted by specific trait.

General Accounts

This is just a few quotes from various papers and people about what they thought about Walsh, and some general descriptions of Ottawa's play.

A nice description of the type of game Ottawa played. It was all about the team.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 31, 1910
They were lighter than their opponents, and there was not an individual star in the septet. But they had the combination, the speed to flow one another with unfaltering steadiness, the knowledge on each other's weak and strong points and the stamina to come back after the puck just as quickly and determinedly as they had gone down with it in their possession. Team work was apparently their aim; it mattered not who scored, how he scored, or how often he scored, so long as the rubber reached the Hallerbury net.

Seems Ottawa was a fantastic third period team.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 20, 1911
The third and last session was a repetition of the many preceeding "last periods" of this saeson's game. Have you seen the Ottawa line tearing up the ice four abreast? Have you seen Kerr hurdling sticks as he worked the boards to perfection, dodging there and there with the speed of a cannon ball and the gracefulness of an acrobat? Have you seen Walsh cutting a zig-zag course from goal to goal, shooting and passing with tantalizing effectiveness? You have seen Darragh and Ridpath trailing their team-mates, going by men as though they were muellaged(?) to the ice, using their bodies with telling effect and ripping to smithereens the best of defences? Well that's what happened on Saturday. "An Ottawa finish," remarked Paddy Moran, as the teams trailed off the ice.

Another description of Ottawa's all around game in general.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 21, 1911
The Ottawas showed all the finer points of a great septet, their passing, shooting, back checking and skating being the prettiest seen here this season.

In this one, someone named Chaucer Elliot believes Walsh to have already distinguished himself as one of the best forwards in the ECHA after this first season there.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 17, 1908
Chaucer Elliot considers Bruce Stuart and Marty Walsh the two most effective forwards in the E.C.H.A.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 1, 1909
The proposition to play Patrick at rover, Bruce Stuart at center and switch Marty Walsh to one of the wings was also made, but the Kingston boy shook his head. Walsh is too valuable a man in mid-ice and will be kept there.

An example of how important he was to the team.

Originally Posted by Ottawa Citizen, January 26, 1910
Les Canadiens gave Ottawas a hard run last Saturday but the Ottawas were not by any means up to form on that occasion, and with Marty Walsh in condition and back at center, they will be a vastly improved aggregation tonight.

Originally Posted by Ottawa Free Trader, January 7, 1910
Marty Walsh, who is conceded to be one of the best forwards in the Dominion, has received an offer of $2500 for ten weeks' play, a bonus of $200 if he plays the complete season and a guarantee of a position at $1200 per annum, good the year round.

Renfrew knew who the keys to Ottawa's success were.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 12, 1910
Renfrew will pay attention to all the Ottawa forwards and particularly to Walsh and Stuart, whom they believe hold the key to the Ottawa success.

A cool little poem about the importance of each member of the team. I have included just a short excerpt.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 22, 1910
They are not all included,
But the W is left out,
For without Walsh in center
The Cup is in doubt.

After Ottawa's defeat of Port Arthur for the Stanley Cup, the Port Arthur coach said that he has never seen Walsh's equal.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 17, 1911
After the game Gordon walked out on the ice, patted Walsh on the back and told him he had never seen his equal.

The great Lester Patrick felt Walsh was one of the best players on Ottawa.

Ottawa Citizen - Apr. 4, 1911
Lester takes plans for the proposed new rinks along with him and is also said to have options on the services of several Eastern players, including Percy Lesueur and Marty Walsh, the two greatest assets of the Ottawa club.

Penalties/Physicality/Aggressiveness/Driving to the Net

Walsh's bread and butter when scoring goals was standing in front of the net, wreaking havoc, and either poking or shooting loose pucks into the net. He was also very feisty and aggressive, occasionally dirty and took bad penalties at times.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 7, 1908
Of the forwards Walsh and Westwick were the most conspicuous, Walsh doing very neat work in close quarters.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 11, 1908 (scroll to page 16)
The first half, in fact, was all Ottawa, Westwick, Taylor, Walsh, Phillips, and Smith boring in on the Wanderer nets persistently. ... No one expected great things of Marty Walsh, but the Kingston boy also covered himself with glory, scoring five of the Ottawa goals. His work around the nets was remarkable, he batting the puck into the cage on no less than three occasions when Hern had blocked shots from the other forwards.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 11, 1908
As exponents of administering the ungentle art, known colloquially as the "gaff," Ottawa excels, and two of the new comers to the team showed themselves to be true adepts. Walsh and Taylor displayed an unpleasant readiness to poke, hammer and bump.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 27, 1908
Marty Walsh tallied four times through pretty work close in on the nets, and Westwick was also very effective throughout.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 5, 1908
The ninth Ottawa goal was tallied after one of the biggest scrimmages ever seen in a hockey match. Taylor shot it in and Lindsay blocked the rubber. Phillips, Westwick, Smith, Walsh, Gilmour, Gaul and Litllton piled in on the goal, most of the players sprawling all voer the nets before Westwick finally poked it in.

Montreal Gazette - Jan. 11, 1909
Stuart transferred it to Lake and Lake passed it out in front, Marty Walsh batting the rubber in for Ottawa's first score in thirty seconds.

Walsh's drive to the net was consistent, but his shooting wasn't always accurate. I didn't find too many reports of this, however.

Montreal Gazette - Jan. 14, 1909
In centre Walsh and Stuart, while willing to go in on the nets, are away off in their shooting. Walsh scored four last night and Stuart two, but both missed a large percentage of their shots, some of them easy chances at that. ... It was all Shamrock for a time and Lesueur was kept busy, Laviolette was ruled off for cross checking Taylor, and was followed to the side by Walsh for mixing it up with Marshall.

Montreal Gazette - Feb. 1, 1909
Taylor, Walsh and Stuart carried the disc back, and Hern had to block a close-range shot from Walsh.

He seemed to have it out for the Wanderers in this game.

Montreal Gazette - Feb. 8, 1909
Johnston was hurt by Walsh, and had to leave the ice after he was able to rise, Kerr going off to even up. ... Ottawa then had the advantage of the odd man and soon realized something from the opportunity, Walsh getting a game on a rebound shot. ... Gardner went off for tripping Walsh, and the latter followed for charging behind Johnston.

Montreal Gazette - Mar. 4, 1909
Then Johnston went off for a mix-up in the corner and Glass and Walsh for scrapping in front of the Wanderer cage. Walsh was trying to bore in on Hern and Glass was trying to keep him out.

One of the games where Walsh may have hurt his team more than help because of taking too many penalties. It wasn't very frequent that this happened, but he definitely was prone to bad penalties from time to time. In this particular game, however, he still remained useful and was dangerous offensively with his stick handling.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 10, 1910
Although their total penalties were only 26 minutes, against 12 minutes for the Nationals, there was seldom a time that one or more of the visiting seven was not occuypying a seat on the penalty bench. Marty Walsh was the worst offender, being ruled off no fewer than five times. Walsh gave an otherwise brilliant exposition of stick-handling, as, barring his strenuous tactics, he was the finest individual performer on the ice, and scored four of the goals registered.

Taking a penalty hurt his team again, but they still won the game.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 14, 1910
Marty Walsh and Bruce Stuart worked their way right to the mouth of the Montreal net on every rush and Bruce Ridpath and Gordon Roberts kept the center men well supplied with opportunities to score. Walsh stood the usual amount of punishment in boring in, but his effectiveness is shown by five goals to his credit, while Stuart, Roberts and Ridpath each got three. ... Walsh was banished for swiping viciously with his stick at Kane and, while he was on the side lines, Price gave the local team its first goal.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 19, 1910
Ridpath went off for a second time and after Shore had inaugrated a great rush Roberts took a shot, the puck striking Winchester on the pads and bounding out to the ever-watchful Walsh, who batted it in. ... Whitcroft was injured, but continued and both Walsh and Ridpath were penalized for roughing it

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 27, 1910
Three minutes later Roberts carried the puck behind the nets of the Canucks and passed it back to Walsh, who batted it past Cattaranich for Ottawa's second goal. ... Play was not by any means rough, although the checking, particularly on the parts of Lalonde, Walsh, Pitre and Laviolette, was fierce at times.

One of the few examples where Walsh taking bad penalties probably cost the team the game.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 21, 1910
Then followed Walsh's penalty, and while Walsh and Lake, the mainstay of the Ottawa team, were hugging the fence, Glass either kicked, batted or poked one in from a scrimmage. Russell got the next on an easy shot, and thus by the time Lake and Walsh resumed, the chances of victory perching on the banners of the red, white and black had gone.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 28, 1910
Kerr on a brilliant lone rush, made it 10 to 5, the last goal of the match falling to Walsh after another scuffle at Jones' feet.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 16, 1910
Walsh is just as aggressive and scrappy as ever. He bagged a hatful of goals and missed as many more, being from beginning to end right in the thick of the fray.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 23, 1911
Walsh was penalized for whacking the acrobatic Poulin and Ottawa, for the first time, played one man shy. ... The teams were then complete, excitement surging to a boiling point when Walsh was penalized for again jabbing Poulin.

Montreal Gazette - Jan. 30, 1911
After a few minutes' play, during which the close checking of both teams prevented any long run and seemed to ruffle the tempers of several of the men, Russell and Walsh came together with a rush and each took a crack at the other.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 25, 1911
Walsh scored on a rebound, Gilmour then being with the timers.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 3, 1911
Baird was exiled for his second offense, and it was while he was off that Walsh cornered the rebound off his own shot and banged it in.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 23, 1911
Ottawa picked up a point when from a scrappy scrimmage in front of the cage Walsh found an opening for a shot.

I'm not sure what to make of this. It seems that the goalies may have simply been at a loss for what to do once Walsh got in on top of them.

Ottawa Citizen - Apr. 4, 1911
To Marty Walsh again go the scoring honors. Marty started his terrible shooting early in the fracas and continued to right to the finish, getting seven goals in all. Marty got four in quick succession, thus establishing a record. He continued to loaf around the Galt nets throughout and was a puzzle that neither Lehman nor Charlton could solve. He is going faster than ever and, like Shore and Ridpath promises to be very useful. The Ottawa forwards on two or three occasions swept down the ice at a beautiful pace, the puck going from man to man until it reached the nets. Had they wished to rub it in they could probably have made their total twenty. In the last part of the second half Walsh, Stuart, Shore and Ridpath actually threw away beautiful openings.

Rushing/Skating/Shooting/Teamwork

Although Walsh made a name for himself in front of the net, I found reports of him scoring from just about everywhere on the ice. He apparently had a pretty hard shot, as it was noted a couple of times. Not only was he also adept at rushing the puck up ice himself, but he was apparently very capable of using his teammates to create scoring chances. In the Ottawa system, this was a big deal, and Marty figured into many combination plays with his teammates. I do realize that stuff about combinations are generally a dime a dozen but I do feel like it demonstrates a player's ability to work with teammates on offense.

Kerr and Taylor were far more prominent in skating than Walsh, but evidently he was very fast himself. I am not really sure where that puts him, however.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 18, 1908
Marty Walsh has the same old swagger on the ice that he had last year, generally standing when the puck is not near him with his stick hooked up under his arm and leaning on one leg, looking like a man who has been shovelling coal all day and who is in need of a rest. The next moment, however, Marty is apt to pull himself together and shoot down the ice with the speed of an express train.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 30, 1908
Bruce Stuart showed good form and Gilmour and Walsh were travelling like cyclones, the work of Taylor and Lake also being good.

So, about that shot.. it is not likely this is a significant part of Walsh's repertoire but I wanted to include it for completeness.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 10, 1908
Moran hurt a couple of his fingers in turning aside the rifle-ball shots of Smith, Phillips, Westwick and Walsh, but he was not forced to retire.

Montreal Gazette - Feb. 1, 1909
Hern was given a stiff one to handle from Walsh, and Smaill carried to the other end.

Walsh was very effective at working combination plays with his teammates. The style did apparently lend to a lot of offsides as they seemed to rely on quick passes to move the puck up ice.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 14, 1908
Alf Smith and Marty Walsh did some exceedingly pretty work in the way of combination and Westwick and Phillips tore off a few neat end to end rushes.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 26, 1908 (scroll to page 5)
The Ottawas lined out against the Victorias and the work of the team was entire satisfactory to the big crown of rail-birds. It was the first appearance of the Senators since their victory over the Shamrocks and although several of the players were a little stiff and sore as the result of their game against the Irishmen, they did not show signs of it. The forwards played some exceedingly pretty combination, Smith, Westwick, Walsh and Phillips working in beatiful fashion.

Montreal Gazette - Mar. 4, 1909
Strict ruling, particularly by Bowie, on off-sides, caused a gnashing of teeth in the Ottawa crowd, for Walsh and Stuart are inclined to a quick passing game that naturally is followed by many off-sides.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 14, 1909
The Gold Dust Twins, Bruce Stuart and Marty Walsh, tore off many brilliant stunts in mid-ice, often going through the opposing side for goals after magnificent combination.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 31, 1910
Walsh and Ridpath replied with a combination rush that resulted in another score by Marty, bringing down the house.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 10, 1910
Marty Walsh scored two in the first five minutes of play after neat combination attacks with Stuart and Ridpath, that apparently settling Halleybury's fate. ... Shore finally broke away and scored again for Ottawa after a pretty piece of play with Walsh and Roberts.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 4, 1910
Kerr and Walsh worked many pretty combination rushes for scores, both shooting in deadly fashion.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 18, 1910
Kerr and Walsh were all over the ice and worked together beautifully.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 16, 1910
Dubbie Kerr and Marty Walsh really surprised the railbirds by their fast work. They figured in some pretty combination plays, showed occasional bursts of speed that astonished Manager Green and bored in on the New Edinburgh defence for many well-earned goals.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 16, 1910
Fitting perfectly with Bruce Ridpath, Marty Walsh and Albert Kerr, the former Halleybury boy travelled with the speed of a Kansas cyclone. ... Shore showed all his old time cleverness on the defence, while Walsh and Kerr figured in some magnificent combination plays.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 5, 1911
Kerr's presence also means much to Walsh for he and Marty have developed a system of attack, which Canadians found utterly impossible to break up.

Montreal Gazette - Jan. 9, 1911
The sides, however, were even when Walsh scored for Ottawa, making it 2 to 2. The score followed a pretty combination effort by Darragh, Ridpath and Walsh.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 30, 1911
Kerr made it 7 to 2 on Marty's pass after the two on the prettiest combination of the night had rushed from goal to goal

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 6, 1911
In the overtime Quebec slacked off a good deal, and Ottawa were the aggressors most of the time. After four minutes' play Marty Walsh nursed it up, and passed to Kerr, who notted the rubber, breaking the tie.

Montreal Gazette - Feb. 13, 1911
Walsh made it 7 to 3 on a pretty combination run with Ridpath.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 6, 1911
In the first period, the Ottawa attack shaped up splendidly, Darragh, Kerr, Walsh and Ridpath figuring in several great combination plays.

He also occasionally did some nice work on individual rushes. Individualism like this was generally not the way the team wanted to play, as teamwork was stressed, and there are quite a few accounts of individualism of the players causing turnovers. Walsh, to his credit, seemed to be quite good at this particular part of the game.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 17, 1908
Once when Marty Walsh went down, and, dodging here and there, outplayed the whole Victoria team, and scoring, he was given a rousing ovation from the Montreal fans.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 16, 1911
Shore made it 12-4 on a lone rush and Mallen on Holden's pass negotiated Quebec's fifth and last, the irrepresible Walsh scoring the eighteenth for Ottawa after the prettiest piece of play of the night. Marty seized the rubber near his own goal and went the length of the ice, sidestepping Moran and connecting with the top of the nets.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 23, 1911
Marty Walsh gave his finest display of the season. He rushed, dodged, recovered and shot in his finest form, being in the thick of play throughout and outpacing Dollaire, Bernier and Payer, all of whom were at one time in turn pitted against him. Marty was, in the overtime, probably the fastest man on the ice.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 25, 1911
Taylor went to the side in the second period for warding Lake and Shore off with his hand and while he was on the fence little Marty Walsh went by the whole Renfrew team, scoring as pretty a goal as one could wish to see. ... On a team of stars Marty Walsh stood out conspicuously in the one-sided battle. The great little forward who made Kingston famous on the hockey map played one of the finest games of his carer, scoring six goals and assisting in the bagging of two or three others. At times he waltzed through the Renfrew defense with such speed and neatness that McNamara, Taylor and Lindsay looked dazed.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 30, 1911
Walsh opened the period with a beautiful rush and shot, which Hern sidetracked

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 6, 1911
Marty Walsh rushed alone and after fooling both Taylor and Cleghorn, he shot from about twenty feet out. Lindsay failed to stop it and the net sagged behind him.

Work Ethic/Competitiveness/Toughness/Leadership/Consistency/Clutchness

This was a big one with Walsh, references to him as the "hardest worker" were relatively easy to find. Rarely did he ever have an off game, for when he did, it usually spelled trouble for Ottawa. Even when his shooting, rushing, or combination was off, he was always able to somehow contribute, whether it be through his back checking, physicality or what have you. He was also an excellent teammate and leader, sticking up for his mates when they got bodied around. Finally, he was happy to play through pain and injuries for the good of the team. He always put the team first.

In his first game, Walsh already demonstrated his courage, competitiveness and care for his team, by playing through pain and potentially a rather serious injury.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 11, 1908 (scroll to page 16)
In going into the game against Wanderers and playing throughout, Marty Walsh, the Ottawa center man, gave one of the pluckiest exhibitions on record. All day Saturday Walsh was troubled with pains in his side. In the afternoon he consulted Dr. Caskey, Ottawa, and Dr. Hanley, Kingston. Both physicians feared appendicitis and Walsh was told that he must not play. He refused to listen to the pleadings of the doctors, however, and suffered with pains all through the match, but refused to retire. He was ill after the game, but nothing serious he anticipated. Walsh thought that the other Ottawa players might lose courage if they knew he was not in the "pink", and made Drs. Caskey and Hanley promise not to tell his teammates of his illness until the finish of the battle.

Walsh was a model of consistency and work ethic, rarely having an off game. Whenever credit was given to the Ottawa players in post game writeups, Walsh was usually prominent. In this particular passage, it was the Montreal newspaper giving him credit.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 11, 1908
Among the Ottawa forwards honors were about even, or at the best, slightly in favor of Marty Walsh.

Originally Posted by Toronto Star, January 4, 1909
Walsh was the best man on the team, and worked ceaselessly for the good of his team.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 1, 1911
Marty Walsh was the hardest and most effective worker in the line, two of his goals bringing down the house.

Originally Posted by Toronto Star, March 21, 1911
Marty Walsh, centre, is the champion scorer of the National Hockey Association. Walsh is a graduate of Queen's University, and was as an amateur one of the greatest outside wings in the Inter-Collegiate Football Union. He is 28 years old, and has been playing with the Ottawas for four seasons. Walsh, while not brilliant, is perhaps the hardest and most effective worker on the Ottawa team. He weighs 164."

In this particular passage, the paper laments about Walsh's inability to score for Ottawa in the previous, Stanley Cup deciding game. It is mentioned that if Walsh was given the chances he got in this game, they probably would have won the Cup.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 9, 1908
Marty Walsh also proved a great goer on the soft surface, scoring no less than seven of the Ottawa goals. Marty was the hardest worker of the night and his shooting was a feature. Had Marty been given such chances in the Wanderer match, the Stanley Cup would probably have been in Ottawa today.

Even when his team wasn't going the way they had hoped, Marty often stood out as a quality performer.

Montreal Gazette - Jan. 13, 1909
The Ottawa correspondent of the Toronto Star includes the following knock in the report of the Quebec-Ottawa game. But it was lucky for the local bunch that it was Quebec they were up against. The forward division played punk hockey as a whole - all but Walsh, who was right on the job all evening, scoring five goals, and Stuart, who, especially in the second half, cut out a pace that surprised the crowd.

Montreal Gazette - Mar. 10, 1909
Marty Walsh, centre of the champion Ottawa seven, was an easy leader as a scorer in the E.C.H.A. series, which was brought to a close with the match in Quebec last Saturday. Walsh achieved the fine record of leading the scorers in both halves of the schedule and coming out top for the season with a total of 42 goals. As Walsh played in the full twelve matches, his average is exactly 3.5 goals a match. Walsh, of course, benefited by the fact that he was playing with the winning team and in a position that gives a player more chances to score than any position on the ice. For all that it is a fine record and Walsh was a considerable factor in the success of his team. He kept in good condition throughout the season, and even in the last match in Quebec he was one of only a couple of players on his side to show championship form.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 21, 1911
Of the forwards Walsh and Kerr were the most conspicuous

Ottawa's forwards were not to be blamed for the loss against Renfrew, though the paper felt the checking on Cleghorn wasn't tight enough.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 25, 1911
Every man on the line was in fine form and but for the unexpected fall down of the defence, they would probably have sustained the Ottawa record of wins. In no way, in fact should the defeat be attributed to the forwards, although many were of the opinion that Odie Cleghorn should not have been allowed so much freedom.

Walsh showed great determination and unwillingness to give up on a play.

Montreal Gazette - Feb. 1, 1909
Thirty seconds later, with Gardner still off, Walsh and Stuart pierced through the Ottawa defence and Walsh batted the disc over the nets. The Ottawa centre dashed behind after it and passed out to Stuart, who scored the first goal of the match in 7.16.

A fantastic feat of determination that impressed even the great Joe Hall.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 1, 1911
Quebec's brace was only a spasmodic one, however, and in a minute Marty Walsh and Kerr engineered a rush which gave Ottawa stock another boost. Walsh took the pass and after pulling Moran out to meet him missed the open net. The great groan, which the millionaire end sent up had hardly subsided when Walsh recovered, did a contortionist stunt around Moran and slipped it into the nets. It was a clever piece of work and Marty was applauded to the echo. The play appealed to "Bad Joe" Hall in such an extent that the woolly Westerner skated up and patted the Ottawa center on the back. "That's what makes Ottawa such a great team" Joe afterwards said. "Any other player would have let the puck get away from him." ... Kerr and Walsh were also responsible for the eighth goal. They, with Darragh, nursed the rubber from end to end. Walsh passed it to Kerr after he had been tripped and the Brockville citizen did the rest.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 17, 1911
Walsh rushed alone and batted one in as he fell - a grand piece of work that brought down the house

He was more than willing to play through abuse, pain and close checking to help his team win.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 10, 1908
Marty Walsh was also a tower of strength. Marty's work was very effective if not always conspicuous and although battered and bodied by the heavy Quebec defence, the little Kingstonian managed to get in his usual goal tallying, three.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 21, 1910 (scroll to page 8)
The Edmonton defence gave Walsh particular attention, but the Kingston boy worked like a beaver, and the goal that he sought came his way just a minute or two before the call of time.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 24, 1910
Although the champions have been winning right along, scoring at a great clip, there has been in evidence an element of misfortunate which again asserted itself on Saturday when Marty Walsh, champion goal getter of the East took ill. Marty was feeling sick all week, in fact, he was so bad in the second match against Edmonton that he felt like dropping. Saturday it was intended to play him, but Walsh took ill after he had donned his uniform, it being decided at the eleventh hour not to use him. ... His physician believes Marty has been over-working himself.

Despite not playing the previous game (see above), he quickly recovered enough to be able to go the next game.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 25, 1910
From Ottawa headquarters it was announced last evening that Marty Walsh would be able to play. Marty is not by any means himself as yet, but will be well enough to go into the game.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 27, 1910
Marty Walsh was quite himself again at center and Roberts and Ridpath, after settling down, gave very creditable accounts of themselves.

This one is a little more general but it is consistent with the other accounts of Marty's toughness.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 3, 1909
With Ridpath, Kerr, Stuart and Walsh on the forward line that Ottawa hockey team will stand a lot of beating.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 10, 1910
Dubbie Kerr has a painful eye as the result of the blow from Dubeau, while Marty Walsh, Hamby Shore and Bruce Ridpath also bear facial souvenirs of their "friendly" with the French Canadians.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 16, 1911 (scroll to page 8)
Walsh, Kerr, Ridpath and Darragh were all scratched and marked from the sticks of Holden, Hall, Power and Mallen.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 24, 1911
The Ottawa team was pretty well used up in Saturday's match against the Canadiens, but all will be in uniform against the Creamery Kings. Albert Kerr had one of his toes painfully torn, and Marty Walsh was also batted up.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 25, 1911
Walsh hurt his right leg in a scramble and Taylor also got a nasty tumble. All, however, finished out the match.

Walsh was important enough to his team that they felt they would be taking a chance if they didn't play him against Quebec, who they even thought were a weak team. With the Cup on the line, they were to take no chances.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 23, 1910
Marty Walsh has also been on the sick list. Marty has been unable to do himself justice owing to a severe cold and pains in his side, and should he not be able to take his place tonight Ken Mallen will go on at center, the position he occupied last winter as a member of the Renfrew team. The chances are, however, that Walsh will play, as he is the mainspring of the attack, and the Ottawas despite the reported weakness of the Shamrocks, do not intend to risk any chances.

To Marty, the Stanley Cup was everything, especially since Ottawa had failed to clinch it in the previous year in the NHA. He was also very committed to Ottawa, rebuffing offers from other clubs to play for his mates in Ottawa.

Ottawa Citizen - Dec. 16, 1908
Marty Walsh, who arrived yesterday from Kingston to play with the Ottawas, was a much sought man. Walsh had offers from Pittsburgh and from many points in the West. Edmonton wanted him, also the Maple Leafs of Winnipeg, but Walsh stood firm, keeping his promise to play with the locals. Marty says there will be no trouble over his contract, providing some arrangement is made to protect his interests in the event of an accident. Marty is also enthusiastic over the outlook of the Ottawa team. "It's the Stanley Cup or nothing this year" was his comment after the practice.

In a game against the Wanderers that ended on a very peculiar play, Walsh was particularly distressed about the loss and had wept about it afterwards.

Montreal Gazette, Jan. 7, 1909
Walsh was greatly cut up by his team's defeat and wept in the dressing room after the match.

The end came unexpectedly after a face on Ottawa's side of centre ice. Smaill secured the rubber, swung around in a circle from the side of the centre about quarter ice and then let fly a long one, outside the whole Ottawa defence. It passed Taylor and Lake. Lesueur made a grab to stop it with his hand. Just the edge of his glove touched it and the umpire's hand went up signalling that Wanderers had won the match.

Walsh would do whatever it took to win, even trying to cheat by loafing at the opposition's net if he thought the puck would come to him. I found two instances of this, one of which actually worked! This was termed the "inside home" play and was actually a penalizable offense.

Montreal Gazette - Feb. 1, 1909
Two minutes later Ottawa, with what proved to be the final score of the match, again took the lead. It was a peculiar play, more of the lacrosse than the hockey variety, that gave Ottawa the winning goal. Lake shot from far out on the side. The disc, it was claimed, caromed off Smaill, Walsh, loafing in on top of Ross and twenty-five feet directly in front of Lake, batted it into the Wanderers' cage.

Montreal Gazette - Feb. 13, 1911
Hyland was sent to the bench for tripping Kerr, and while he was on the side Walsh tried to put one over on the referee, but Percival caught him. Loafing right up on the Wanderer nets, he poked a shot through from a pass, but the referee would not stand for the "inside-home" method and benched the foxy Ottawa centre just as the whistle blew for the recess.

A fantastic account during the famous Renfrew game and Taylor's return to Ottawa for the first time. Bruce Stuart went down, and was not to return. Walsh took it upon himself to "general" the team in his absence, this being Stuart's usual role. In the same game, he also demonstrated his clutchness, scoring what would eventually be the winning goal.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 14, 1910
Millar's penalty was fatal to Renfrew, for the Ottawa team, taking advantage of exactly what Renfrew had failed to profit by - an odd man advantage went in with a rush and broke the tie, Ridpath carrying the rubber from the face and slapping it over to Walsh, who took the puck and coolly shot it into the Renfrew cage, Marty's shot being the one that really won the game. ... Walsh generalled the team in faultless fashion and when they switched around for the last five, Renfrew were one goal behind.

When his team badly needed a goal, he delivered.

Originally Posted by Montreal Gazette, January 18, 1909
just when things looked blackest, the brace that saved the day and which incidentally prevented a big slump in hockey interest in Ottawa came, two clever goals by Marty Walsh within as many minutes. From that on, Ottawas were masters of the situation...

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 20, 1911
Then came a rude awakening for the joval followers of the home team; likewise a rush of happiness for the few in the packed rink who were in the interests of the Ottawa club, shouting themselves black in the face. The score up to this time was one all, Ottawa having drawn the first through Marty Walsh and Quebec the second via Tommy Dunderdale. The teams were even up at the close of the first period and for twelve minutes of the second there was no further scoring. Suddenly, the Quebec line, apparently discouraged by their failure to penetrate the strongest defence in the N.H.A. appeared to show signs of distress. Simultaneously, answering to the pleading of Pete Green, to wit "Come on boys; pull together" every man on the Ottawa line showed an astonishing revival. Talk about comebacks? Why this was a genuine reunion. Thirty seconds of fast play in which Ottawa swarmed like so many bees around the Quebec nets, gave Ridpath the rubber behind Quebec's nets. Riddy flipped it out and Walsh hoisted it in, giving Ottawa a lead that was never overtaken.

Walsh was a great teammate, sticking up for his mates when he felt liberties were being taken on them, even if it would hurt his team's chances.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 30, 1911
Big Johnston bodied Freddie Lake into the boards with such force that the side squeaked and Lake lay prone on the ice. He, too, continued after a breathing spell, but just as Ottawas' chances looked best, Walsh struck Johnston and was promptly banished, leaving the teams with six men each.

Montreal's account of the same play.

Montreal Gazette - Jan. 30, 1911
The play, which has been unusually clean during the first two periods resolved itself into a "rough house" affair before the final stage had gone far. A body check from Johnston which laid Lake out on the ice seemed to make the players thirst for blood. After he revived, Lake, who had received a great deal of rough usage and showed gameness, continued in the play.

Soon after play was resumed Walsh looked for vengeance and checked Johnston across the neck with his stick. Johnston was not hurt, but Walsh went off for five minutes.

Back Checking

This was probably the part of his game that Walsh was most proud of, and he got better at it as time went on, becoming an absolute stalwart in his 4th season in Ottawa. I only ever found one reference to the Senators failing to check back consistently, and it was directed more at the entire team than Walsh himself. I assume a good deal of their great work had to do with Green and his system, but Walsh bought in 100% and made sure to help his defense out as often as he could.

There wasn't a whole lot of mention to begin with about the back checking of the team in general for the first two seasons, but the few times that it was mentioned, Walsh featured reasonably well, only Westwick and Smith having more individual acclaim for this work in the first two seasons. Westwick and Smith only played in the first season.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 11, 1908 (scroll to page 16)
Ross, however, found Taylor and Pulford an impregnable combination, and to make his case all the harder Westwick, Walsh, Phillips, and Smith were always checking back with the speed of locomotives. Once the Ottawas delivered the puck at the Wanderer end they would shoot back to their own stronghold, and Wanderers, as a result, were unable to penetrate the defense.

In a game vs. the Shamrocks where they were heavily penalized, whenever Walsh and Phillips were on the ice together, they had little difficulty in controlling the puck. This speaks more to possession than defensive play I guess.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 20, 1908
Westwick worked like a beaver and while Walsh and Phillips were in the game Ottawa had little difficulty in keeping the puck.

This is a wonderful account of Walsh and Westwick killing off what was essentially a 5 on 2 for 3 minutes, against Bowie's Vics of all teams!

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 17, 1908
At one period in the second half Tom Phillips, Alf Smith, Harvey Pulford, and Fred Taylor were on the fence, leaving Percy Lesueur, Marty Walsh, and Harry Westwick to play against six Victoria men, Gilmour being off also. For three minutes Walsh, Lesueur, and Westwick held the Vics off, and on two occasions, even with three men against six, Walsh and Westwick darted down the ice in a brave effort to score. Walsh shot within a foot of the bars on one occasion, and Victorias got their last goal on the return rush, Lesueur, Westwick, and Walsh playing brilliantly while their team mates were on the bench. ... Bowie's stick-handling was a feature, but Walsh and Westwick watched him closely, and the great rover had little chance to shine.

This a critical game against the Wanderers that would decide who got the 1908 Stanley Cup. Walsh was checked very closely, and he returned it in kind.

Montreal Gazette - Mar. 2, 1908
Walsh was effectively tied up in centre ice, and Westwick was never very prominent. Both he and Walsh, however, did a lot of telling work in breaking up plays.

Montreal Gazette - Mar. 1, 1909
The combination of the Ottawa line, the ability of the forwards to check back and break up whatever combination the visitors attempted, and the rushes of the Ottawa defence man, coupled with Lesueur's perfect work in the nets, proved a combination that Shamrocks were unable to solve; the Ottawas played one of their best games of the season and completely smothered the green and great aggregation from the Metropolis.

Edmonton challenged for the Stanley Cup but were unsuccessful. A great deal of the credit went to the defensive work of the Senators. Game 1:

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 19, 1910
Edmonton's defeat may be attributed to the great checking of the entire Ottawa team, the magnificent work of Lesueur, Lake and Shore on the defence, and the consistent, heady play of Stuart, Walsh, Ridpath and Roberts on the Ottawa line. ... Edmonton continued to check back for fifteen minutes only, while Ottawa kept it up from beginning to end. Every time the Westerners broke away they found either Walsh and Ridpath or Roberts and Stuart skating between them to intercept the pass or take the puck away. ... It was really the Ottawa checking, following back, blocking and shooting, and, to make it short, their team work that turned the tide. ... Bruce Stuart and Marty Walsh were not as brilliant as usual, owing to the soft ice, but the "inside hockey" that they pulled off furnished one of the features of the match, they giving their defence great assistance. ... Walsh and Stuart did magnificent work through their consistent following back and checking, repeatedly robbing Deeton and Whitcroft of the puck when their chances looked bright.

The following also gives credit to the system and team work, which suggests Pete Green really did some nice work in getting his boys to play winning hockey. Game 2:

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 21, 1910 (scroll to page 8)
Once in a while the visitors made an attempt at combination and at least two of their goals were scored on two or three man rushes. Their passing, stick handling and shooting was not to be compared to that of the Ottawas, however, and besides Stuart, Walsh and Roberts were back after every rush to help out their defence. ... Bruce Stuart and Marty Walsh on the Ottawa line played an important part in the retention of the silverware, but the main factor in the success of the Ottawas was their system and team work. ... Marty Walsh at center did some wonderful checking back and breaking up of rushes, but in shooting Marty seemed to be in wrong.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 27, 1910
On the forward line, the Ottawas had their opponents played to a standstill. Their team work was perhaps the outstanding feature of the performance of the Ottawa line, the combination rushes of Stuart, Walsh, Roberts and Ridpath bewildering Laviolette and Pitre. Their checking back was another very effective part of their play, and in shooting and checking they also scintillated. ... The great Lalonde was seldom conspicuous for Stuart and Walsh took his measure early in the fray and he was seldom allowed to ramble loose.

Pete Green may have been the first coach to use his forwards to cover the rushes of the defensemen.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 31, 1910
At the other end of the rink Lesueur, Lake and Shore were in magnificent form. Lesueur stopped in miraculous fashion time and again, while Lake never dashed down the ice without leaving Walsh and Stuart to look after his position. Stuart and Shore acted in a like manner, and when either of the Ottawa wings left his side of the ring, either Walsh, Stuart, Lake or Shore dashed up to fill the breach and take the pass. Such is the modern exemplification of team work, the secret of the Ottawa club's success. ... ... At times in the second half, the Halleybury line worked fairly well, but two of the players have followed an old-fashioned style, of dodging from side to side instead of going straight ahead, this having the effect of throwing the line out of position and causing them to overskate the puck. Their passing was slow and the checking back of Walsh, Stuart, Ridpath and Roberts coupled with the remarkable steadiness of Lesueur, Lake and Shore doing the rest.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 10, 1910
Throop scored a goal for Halleybury from a scrimmage three minutes later, and with a short time to go all the Halleybury players with the exception of Moran dashed down on the offensive, raining shot after shot at Lesueur. The wonderful back checking of the Ottawa forwards, however, kept the home team from doing any serious damage, Lesueur showing his eagle eye on three or four occasions when scores by Halleybury appeared inevitable.

Walsh was willing to take a penalty, or a beating to potentially save a goal.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 14, 1910
Following this Ridpath and Walsh went to the bench, Ridpath for tripping and Walsh for cracking Frank Patrick as the latter dodged in alone. ... The Ottawa players paid particular attention to Fred Taylor, also keeping their watchful eyes on Lester and Frank Patrick and Renfrew returned the compliment by chopping-back at Shore, Lake and Walsh. ... Taken all round, the match was brilliant exhibition, but the checking was so close and hard and the covering, particularly on the part of the center men, that there was little combination on either side. Ottawa displayed more team play than their opponents, but neither Bruce Stuart nor Marty Walsh showed up as conspicuously as usual. Neither was Lester Patrick nor Fred Whitcroft prominent. The reason for this was quite apparent to students of inside hockey, the center men watching each other like hawks. Stuart and Walsh had been "tipped off" as the real dangerous men on the Ottawa team, while Ottawa had been told not to give either Patrick or Whitcroft an inch. Consequently it was a battle royal between the mid-ice performers from start to finish all four nevertheless being very effective, particularly in checking back. Whitcroft and Patrick lagged considerably, while the Ottawa pair were always on the job.

Russell compared to Walsh in terms of their defensive play. Walsh was the more consistent man, but Bruce Stuart was missed, having had his collarbone broken in the Renfrew game.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 21, 1910
Russell perhaps got better support than Marty Walsh, but he certainly had something on the Kingston phenom Saturday, despite the fact that he loafed oftener than Walsh and did not check back with the same degree of consistency. ... There was little combination to the Ottawa line. Walsh, on account of the absence of Bruce Stuart, being unable to show up as well as usual.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 30, 1911
Marty Walsh was always effective on the forward line. He outplayed both Glass and Russell time and time again and checked back with tireless speed and great success. Walsh also took a lot of abuse, particularly in close quarters.

Walsh also demonstrated the ability to cause turnovers and turn them into goals.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 24, 1910
Dunderdale tried to carry the disc out in front of his own goals. He was checked by Walsh and in the scramble that followed Ridpath poked one past Droughton.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 16, 1911 (scroll to page 8)
With Oatman back on Kerr, Walsh (something) the rubber from Holden and went at Moran with a great burst of speed, dodging by the goalkeeper and slipping in (something) one.

The Montreal paper had much the same to say:

Johnston, Gardner and Russell got away but couldn't beat the Ottawa defence, Ridpath and Walsh checking back, got away with a run with only Marshall and Hern in front of them.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 25, 1911
Donald Smith then attempted the hazardous feat of carrying the puck around the front of his nets and Marty Walsh deftly poking it from the stick of the Cornwall boy, turned and slapped it into the nets, leaving Lindsay and Smith starting at each other in amazement. ... ... Walsh plucked it away from Smith and dodged both Taylor and McNamara, making it 10 to 1 and after Currie had replaced Lake, Darragh made it 11-1.

Montreal Gazette - Feb. 13, 1911
Then Wanderer, determined to force things, went up, leaving only Ross and Hern back, but Walsh intercepted a pass and swooped down on Hern and, evading Ross, made it 6 to 1.

I'm not too sure what this passage represents, but it sounds like Walsh was even happy to give up offense to play better defense if he had to.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 23, 1911
Up to the beginning of the third, the home team had much the better of play. True they had not been performing up to their customary form, but Canadiens, with all their surprising speed, had found it impossible to penetrate the Ottawa defence. Walsh and Kerr were checking back like lightning, breaking up rush after rush, while Ridpath and Darragh were doing most of the shooting. ... Newsy Lalonde was the best man on the line, but good as he was, the Cornwall boy wasn't quite up to expectations. Darragh and Walsh watched him like hawks and Kerr also kept an eye on the Canadian captain. ... Nevertheless, Newsy worked hard and Ottawa, had Kerr and Walsh not been obliged to cover him so closely, would have been much further ahead.

Ottawa Citizen - Jan. 25, 1911
The Ottawas, as was to have been expected, gave Taylor particular attention, Shore and Lake often sandwiching him, while Walsh and Kerr were dogging him from start to finish.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 6, 1911
Dunderdale and Walsh had a merry battle at center with honors about even. Dunderdale faded, while Walsh was right there at the finish. Marty did a heap of useful defensive work.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 20, 1911
Oatman was weak on the other side and Dunderdale at center was held too tightly by Walsh and Darragh.

Ottawa Citizen - Feb. 25, 1911
Marty Walsh was at his best throughout the game. Walsh checked back with telling speed and was instrumental in breaking up twenty or thirty rushes by the Renfrew line.

In a very rare case nearing the end of the 1910-1911 season, Ottawa had virtually already clinched the cup and was perhaps getting complacent. Their defensive work suffered because of it.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 2, 1911
Ottawa had had more shots than the Wanderers, but their passing was terrible and they did not seem to exert themselves in checking back, usually one of their strongest points.

This was such an unusual thing to happen to the Ottawa team that people began wondering what was wrong with them.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 2, 1911

They did recover in time to ensure that they would be in top form to defend the Stanley Cup. They lost this game, but not due to a lack of effort.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 6, 1911
Walsh was a consistent performer, both he and Darragh checking back from beginning to end. Both kept boring in until the bell rung, but performances which were otherwise brilliant were spoiled by ragged shooting. ... Wonderful speed, staying power, stickhandling and strength were all at Fred's command. He again scored against his old teammates and only the determination with which Darragh and Walsh dogged his trail prevented Taylor from getting several others.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 10, 1911
Marty Walsh sustained his long reputation at center, carrying the puck oftener than any man of the fourteen, breaking up attack after attack with surprising consistency and netting three of the Ottawa goals. By his work last night Marty wins out in the race for NHA scoring honours ... Walsh was repeatedly applauded for his clever work ... Every time Lalonde grabbed the puck Pete Green would shout, "Get him Marty... get his body, he won't pass it" and Green's tip proved the correct one for Lalonde invariably retained the rubber until the Ottawa forward robbed him of it when Newsy would slap his stick on the ice in disgust.

Originally Posted by Toronto Star, March 14, 1911 (Ottawa-Galt Cup Game)
It was all Ottawa in the opening period. Walsh scoring the first in fourteen minutes on a shot whose rebound he received. Marty also registered the next after Ridpath had nursed it from end to end ... In the third period Walsh made it 5 to 2 on Darragh's pass ... Mallen was smothered by Walsh ...

The very last game Walsh would ever play for the Stanley Cup turned out to be one of his most magnificent performances at both ends of the ice.

Ottawa Citizen - Mar. 17, 1911
It was to Marty Walsh, however, that the bells were attached in last night's struggle, the Kingstonian scoring no fewer than 10 goals. This is a decidedly great performance, for Walsh not only tallied at will, but he did a great deal of checking and was on top of the rubber from beginning to end. ... The shooting of the entire Ottawa's line was brilliant throughout; they never forgot the necessity of checking back and when either Lake or Shore went up with the attack Darragh or Walsh was back to protect Lesueur.

Statistical breakdown of the team while Walsh played

For this I will only do the ECHA/NHA teams (due to it being the highest level of hockey). I will not do playoffs, as the competition Walsh played against in the Stanley Cup challenges is arguably questionable.

The purpose of this analysis is to show how much offense Walsh contributed to his team, as well as to show the defensive excellence of the Senators during his time there in his prime.

1907-1908

Team|Games Played|Goals For|Goals Against
Montreal Wanderers|10|63|52
Ottawa Hockey Club|10|86|51
Quebec Hockey Club|10|81|74
Montreal Shamrocks|10|53|49
Montreal Victorias|10|73|78
Montreal Hockey Club|10|53|105

Walsh scored 28 goals this season, accounting for 32.6% of his team's offense. Phillips was second at 30.2%. Defensively, Ottawa allowed just 51 goals against, only 104% of what the 1st place Shamrocks allowed.

1908-1909

This year saw 2 of the teams removed from the league, the Montreal Hockey Club and Montreal Victorias.

Team|Games Played|Goals For|Goals Against
Ottawa Hockey Club|12|117|63
Montreal Wanderers|12|82|61
Quebec Hockey Club|12|78|106
Montreal Shamrocks|12|56|103

Walsh scored 38 goals this year, accounting for 32.5% of his team's offense. Bruce Stuart was second at 18.8%. Defensively, Ottawa was once again quite stingy, allowing just 63 goals against, 103.3% of what the 1st place Wanderers allowed.

1909-1910

This year saw the Quebec Hockey Club removed, replaced with the Renfrew Creamery Kings, Cobalt Silver Kings, Halleybury Hockey Club and Les Canadiens.

Team|Games Played|Goals For|Goals Against
Montreal Wanderers|12|91|41
Ottawa Hockey Club|12|89|66
Renfrew Creamery Kings|12|96|54
Cobalt Silver Kings|12|79|104
Halleybury Hockey Club|12|77|83
Montreal Shamrocks|12|52|95
Les Canadiens|12|59|100

Walsh scored 19 goals this year, accounting for 21.3% of his team's scoring. Bruce Ridpath was 2nd at 18%. Additionally, this year saw Ottawa put in a good but not great defensive performance, allowing 66 goals against to the Wanderers' 41, 161% as many. The Wanderers this year were miles ahead of everyone else defensively, but even if you look at 2nd place Renfrew, Ottawa still allowed 122% as many goals.

1910-1911

Once again, a shift in the number of teams. The Cobalt, Halleybury, Canadiens and Shamrocks clubs were removed, with the Quebec Bulldogs and Montreal Canadiens coming in to replace them.

Team|Games Played|Goals For|Goals Against
Ottawa Hockey Club|16|122|69
Montreal Canadiens|16|66|62
Renfrew Creamery Kings|16|91|101
Montreal Wanderers|16|73|88
Quebec Bulldogs|16|65|97

Marty Walsh goes back to his high scoring ways, recording 35 goals, accounting for 28.7% of his team's offense. Dubbie Kerr was second at 27%. Defensively, Ottawa returns to form, allowing only 69 goals, 111.3% of 1st place Canadiens.

The running totals here are:

Team|Games Played|Goals For|Goals Against
Ottawa Hockey Club|50|414|249
Montreal Wanderers|50|309|242
Renfrew Creamery Kings|28|187|155
Montreal Shamrocks|34|161|247
Quebec Hockey Club|22|159|180
Cobalt Silver Kings|12|79|104
Halleybury Hockey Club|12|77|83
Montreal Victorias|10|73|78
Montreal Canadiens|16|66|62
Quebec Bulldogs|16|65|97
Les Canadiens|12|59|100
Montreal Hockey Club|10|53|105

Just looking at absolute values, Ottawa and the Wanderers were the class of the league when it came to both offense and defense, Ottawa especially dominant offensively, with Walsh leading the way for his team, accounting for on average 28.8% of his team's offense. Now, it is very unfair to suggest that there was a rotating cast of characters who were 2nd in scoring for the team, as Phillips only played once and anyone else would have only been there for 3 seasons, at most. However, even if the best of the rest is taken, they account for 23.5% of the team's offense over those 4 years.. in other words, it could be said that Walsh, on average, accounted for 122% as much as anyone else on the team when it came to contributing offense over those 4 years. Walsh flat out drove the scoring for his team.

Now, looking at absolute values does not do justice to any other team on that list, given that many of them did not play in the league for all 4 years. Let's look at what the per game values are like:

Team|Games Played|Goals For Per Game|Goals Against Per Game
Ottawa Hockey Club|50|8.28|4.98
Montreal Victorias|10|7.3|7.8
Quebec Hockey Club|22|7.23|8.18
Renfrew Creamery Kings|28|6.68|5.54
Cobalt Silver Kings|12|6.58|8.67
Halleybury Hockey Club|12|6.42|6.92
Montreal Wanderers|50|6.18|4.84
Montreal Hockey Club|10|5.3|10.5
Les Canadiens|12|4.92|8.33
Montreal Shamrocks|34|4.74|7.26
Montreal Canadiens|16|4.13|3.88
Quebec Bulldogs|16|4.06|6.06

Over these 4 years, Ottawa outscored anyone else by 113.4%, an impressive record when you consider a team like Renfrew consisted of both Patricks and Taylor, the Vics had Russell Bowie, the Wanderers had Lalonde and Laviolette, etc. Even more impressive is that they combined this offensive dominance with defensive excellence, allowing more goals per game than only the Wanderers and Canadiens, and neither of those teams were able to come close to Ottawa when it came to offense.

It is difficult to say what Walsh's true impact on the defensive side of the game for Ottawa was, but given their stellar defensive record, combined with him being one of the most prominent forwards when it came to back checking, I believe he must have been quite the stalwart. When you consider that he was also the driving force for his team's offense, this paints the picture of a player that may have been the very best player in the world over these 4 years.

So what happened in the 1911-1912 season?

Truthfully? I don't know. What few newspaper accounts I could find for those games suggested that Walsh was no longer the starting centerman, in favour of Skene Ronan. However, none of the papers suggested that Walsh's play had deteriorated, and these papers were not shy about calling out Fred Taylor for his brutal play. The only time Walsh's play was ever mentioned, albeit very indirectly, is in the last game of the season, when Ottawa subbed out a few guys (Walsh being one of the subs) and the paper mentioned that the subs did better than the starters.. sort of. It said that they played better than they had played at the beginning of the game, when the starting lineup was still playing.

This article also suggests that Walsh had plans with Kerr to move out west and start a cattle farm, perhaps even before that last season even began. Additionally, if the prevailing theory is true, that Walsh needed the rover in order to be effective, why would he not join the PCHA when he had the chance when he went out west? Especially since it would have been a chance for him to play again with Taylor, surely he would have jumped at this opportunity to play if he had wanted to, especially to redeem himself?

My best guess is that after the 1910-1911 season, injuries and worry about his future may have driven him to request to be used as a spare forward for the following season.

One other thing I'd like to point out is that the paper that claimed Walsh struggled with the 6 man game was the Saskatoon Phoenix, a city that the NHA never had any involvement with, at all, nor is that city anywhere near any city the NHA had a team in. Additionally, the article was written nearly 10 years after Walsh was done his playing career.

Conclusion

For the 4 seasons that Walsh starred with the Senators, he proved to be the complete package. He could skate, he could score, was a hard worker, he could work well with his teammates in combination, he was a fantastic teammate, leader, and was a very gritty guy. While they cannot be counted at face value due to concerns about competition, he additionally starred at Queen's U., adding a little bit to his longevity, and proved in the Cup challenge against Ottawa that he could play with them, and then went on and did that. For 4 years, his team was the class of the league, winning the cup twice, fending off every challenge that came their way, and coming very close to winning the cup an additional 2 times, and he was a huge part of that. It could be argued that only Percy Lesueur was as valuable to those teams as Walsh. I truly believe that he was the best player in the world for those 4 years he starred with Ottawa, and it is a crime that history seems to have forgotten him as it did. Had he played and starred for another 10 years, as I have no doubts he could have, we may be talking about him today in the same breath as Nighbor and Taylor. That notwithstanding, his career was short but very spectacular, and Ottawa's hockey history is all the better for him being involved in it.
 
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Mr Callum Fraser from the Hockey Writers posting some wonderful comparisons to who Karlsson plays with compared to Doughty, Weber and Subban at ES. Yeah, there's a disparity in talent.

http://thehockeywriters.com/erik-karlsson-is-back-to-norris-form/

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Yes, weber benefits from playing with Josi, just like he benefited from playin with Suter. Subban alllso benefits from Markov. Methot is better than Muzzin though.

Not by much, but i would agree. And that's negating the wide gap in F talent between the two teams.

http://www.silversevensens.com/2014/6/26/5841438/why-erik-karlsson-should-have-won-the-norris-trophy

Duncan Keith had the luxury of skating alongside Patrick Sharp, Jonathan Toews, Marian Hossa and Brent Seabrook for the majority of his time on ice. While Erik Karlsson clearly was at a disadvantage playing with Jason Spezza, Kyle Turris, Milan Michalek and Marc Methot.

Granted Spezza, Turris, Michalek and Methot are not terrible players by any stretch of the imagination. However they are truly not on the same level as Sharp, Toews, Hossa and Seabrook. In spite of this disadvantage Erik Karlsson still managed to put up more points, shots and a better relative possession rating along with more defensive zone starts that Duncan Keith.


Zone Exits

Another telling statistic is the percentage of icings for while each player was on the ice at five on five. In general this number can indicate whether the team had problems exiting their defensive zone efficiently.

When Duncan Keith was on the ice the Chicago Blackhawks had 45.9% icings for. The Blackhawks iced the puck 22 more times than the opposition did while Keith was on the ice. In comparison Erik Karlsson finishing the year at 51.6% icings for while he was on the ice for the Ottawa Senators.


Making players around them better

In Erik Karlsson’s case his numbers clearly show that he made the players around him better. In fact, only one Ottawa Senator that played regular minutes had a better puck possession rating without Erik Karlsson. Who was it? Surprise, surprise it was Clarke MacArthur

In Duncan Keith’s case the players that he played the most often with saw a drop in their puck possession without Keith. However Keith also had his puck possession drop when not playing with these players. That could indicate that Duncan Keith’s success is interdependent on his teammates. While Erik Karlsson was much more balanced and was more often than not better when playing without a teammate.



This is Corsi factor without Karlsson on the ice 5v5

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This is Corsi factor without Duncan Keith on the ice for Chicago

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How dominant is Karlsson in driving the offense for Ottawa?

http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2014-08-07/too-reliant-on-erik-karlsson


For another example, take this graph below, which shows individual shot-attempts on the season at EV, and individual points percentage (or, the percentage of goals in which the player received a point):




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It's almost comical how far out there he is. The y-axis, or IPP, kind of gives us information as to plays where maybe Karlsson was involved, but didn't necessarily take a shot. Now, IPP can really fluctuate year-to-year, but it stands to reason that a player so active and so responsible in his team's offense will post extremely high IPPs over, and over, and over.

Which brings me to a final thought. I went ahead and pulled what I identified as 'high' three-year IPPs over the years, particularly for guys with massive minutes logged.



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It's ... exceptionally high. And this is spanning thousands of minutes. Even if we regress Karlsson's IPP to what we can expect for a first-pairing defender, it seems reasonable to conclude that his IPP is significantly higher than most other players.
 
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Nicklas Backstrom !!!


Awards and Achievements:
Olympic Silver Medal (2014)
World Championship Gold Medal (2006)


Offensive Accomplishments:
Points - 4th(2010), 6th(2015), 8th(2014), 9th(2009), 13th(2013)
Goals - 13th(2010)
Assists - 1st(2015), 3rd(2009), 3rd(2010), 3rd(2013), 3rd(2014), 11th(2008), 17th(2011)

Olympic Points - 10th(2010)
Olympic Assists - 3rd(2014), 5th(2010)


5-Year Peak: 2009-13
11th in Points, 84% of second place Henrick Sedin
5th in Assists, 91% of second place Martin St. Louis


Scoring Percentages:
Points - 93, 91, 91, 84, 80, 66, 65

Best 6 Seasaons: 505


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Hockey's Greatest Stars: Legends and Young Lions said:
Although he's tough to knock off the puck - many compare Backstrom to Peter Forsberg because of his surprising ability to shield the puck, especially along the boards - and has carried defensemen on his back as he emerges from the scrum with the puck on his stick, Backstrom's real strength is his soft hands and deft touch. His slick flip pass has become a trademark, and he gets away with some risky-looking passes because they usually connect.

Eliteprospects.com said:
An extremely talented two-way center. Bäckström stands out with his tremendous hockey sense and soft hands. His technical skills are very good and one of his trademarks is the way he moves the puck into the offensive zone. He stickhandles really well through traffic. Offensively his passing skills are superb. His flip passes are perhaps a bit risky, His shot is decent, although it can and should be improved, and although he is still more of a playmaker than a scorer, he has a pretty good scoring touch.

Defensively Bäckström takes care of his responsibilities and is a rather good penalty killer. He could use some work on his conditioning and skating. Not slow by any means, but there is some room for improvement. Bäckström is not an overly physical player, but he is pretty strong and tough to knock the puck off.

The Hockey News said:
Assets: Displays outstanding patience with the puck, playmaking acumen and a knack for being in the right place at the right time. Is mature and has great instincts. His shot is improving and he also boasts sound defensive ability.

Flaws: Needs to continue getting a little better at fending off defenders when the checking is at its tightest. Also needs to do more of the little things when he's not putting up points consistently. Injuries are a bit of a concern here.

Hockey's Future said:
Talent Analysis
Bäckström has constantly been compared to fellow Sweden Peter Forsberg. While Bäckström lacks the same aggressiveness’ and edge that Forsberg has to his game, there are some obvious similarities. Both have excellent hockey sense and both are very skilled playmakers. Bäckström sees openings that few other can and his slick flip passes have become a trademark of his. He feels very comfortable in the role of setting up power plays and although his passes may seem quite risky at times, he is almost always successful. Another resembles with Art Ross Trophy winner Peter Forsberg is the way Bäckström protects the puck. He is, although not being the strongest of players, very tough to knock the puck off. He protects it well, especially along the boards, and usually comes out with the puck while defensemen are hanging on his back.
When it comes to goal scoring, Bäckström kind of suffers from the same dilemma as most Swedish players. He rather passes the puck than shoots. A shame, since he is a pretty decent goal scorer. However, his release needs improvement and could be more accurate, but more so powerful. One of Bäckström’s greatest strengths are his soft hands and fine technical skills. It really does look easy when he is moving the puck and he stickhandles very smoothly through traffic. He would be an even better puck carrier had he been a better skater. Bäckström is not really slow on his skates, but he lacks that extra gear and his acceleration could use improvement.
Looking at his defensive game, he is already very solid in his own end. An excellent penalty killer that backchecks hard and helps out his defenseman. As for his physical game, he is not a hitting machine, but has a small edge to his game. Once in a while he delivers a decent hit, but he is not the kind of player that is seeking good opportunities to play the body.


Brooks Laich said:
I think he's the quietest superstar in the league. I've said that exact line for years. The guy he plays with, No. 8 [Alex Ovechkin], he gets the headlines, he's the rock star, right? Nicky's the guy that keeps the band together.

Nicky's the beat of the band. He's so good all over the ice he's our quarterback. The best thing about Nick is that every player that he plays with he makes them better, and I think that's the true testament to a great player is they make everybody else on the ice better, and he does that and it's with intelligence, it's with positioning.

Obviously everybody knows about his elite skill level, the hands, the vision, but the way he sees the game and understands the game, and his other talent is understanding his teammates, what they want, where they want the puck, when they want the puck, do I have to give it to them now or should I hold it longer with this guy and give it to him when he's open? Just an elite level of intelligence. Great teammate. Hard worker. The quietest superstar in the National Hockey League.

Dan Bylsma said:
For me, I was scared of him before and I'm probably more scared of his game now. He has such a great ability to hold on to the puck, manufacture time, read the play and execute with the puck, that it allows the other players on his line to freelance, to not be in the same spot all the time.
They can go to different areas, they can work to get open away from the puck.

It's an unbelievable asset that he has. I don't want to say it's sleight of hand. To me, he's the best player on the half wall, he's the best half-wall distributor.
As for the breadth of Backstrom's game, he is perhaps more of a force now than ever at both ends of the ice.
He covers up for a lot of mistakes. He's sound. Good, intelligent defensively, he covers up for a lot.
He's good. He's real good.

Barry Trotz said:
I didn't realize there was a bite to Nick Backstrom. He actually excels when you try and sort of get under his skin. It sort of lights his fire a little bit. That's probably the biggest thing that surprised me. And then realizing how good he is and how important he is to this team.
I just think he is, to me, one of the best all-around forwards I've ever dealt with.

Alan May said:
You just said it. This year is the very first time I've seen him have snarl or bite to the game. He doesn't take anything from anyone anymore. You see how tough he is finishing hits. He's just so much more physical on the puck.
 
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Joe Mullen !!!

Awards and Achievements:
3 x Stanley Cup Champion (1989, 1991, 1992)

First Team All-Star (1989)

2 x Lady Byng Memorial Trophy Winner (1987, 1989)

All-Star voting - 1st(1989), 3rd(1992), 4th(1986), 5th(1987), 6th(1990), 7th(1984), 7th(1990)
Lady Byng voting - 1st(1987), 1st(1989), 2nd(1985), 4th(1988), 5th(1992), 8th(1986), 8th(1993)


Scoring Achievemetns:
Points - 7th(1989), 14th(1987), 19th(1986)
Goals - 5th(1989), 7th(1987), 10th(1992), 13th(1986), 15th(1984)
Assists - 12th(1989)

Play-off Points - 3rd(1986), 3rd(1989), 5th(1982)
Play-off Goals - 1st(1986), 1st(1989), 10th(1982)
Play-off Assists - 6th(1982)

World Championship Goals - 2nd(1979)


5-Year Peak: 1984-89
11th in Points, 81% of third place Jari Kurri
6th in Goals, 79% of third place Jari Kurri
8th in Play-off Goals, 76% of third place Jari Kurri

10-Year Peak: 1984-93
15th in Points, 78% of third place Steve Yzerman
6th in Goals, 88% of third place Steve Yzerman
6th in Play-off Goals, 73% of third place Glenn Anderson


Scoring Percentages:
Points - 81, 79, 75, 68, 67, 64, 64, 58, 53, 53, 47

Best 6 Seasons: 434


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The Fire Inside said:
Of course, that heart of a lion was part of a complete package, which included a pretty good set of hands that came with that pint-sized 5'9" 180 pound frame.

From the day the right winger was acquired from the St. Louis Blues on Feb. 1, 1986, he became a fan favourite. It was more than the 16 goals and 22 assists he tallied in his 29 games the rest of that 1985-86 season. It was the grit, guts and offensive touch he added in the playoffs, leading all playoff scorers with 12 goals and guiding the Flames to the Stanley Cup Final against the Montreal Canadiens.

Over the next 4 seasons, he was as consistent as any scorer in the NHL, firing 47, 40, 51 and 36 goals.

"I tried to give it 100% and play both ends of the rink," says Mullen. "I tried to concentrate on my defensive side of my game. Once we turned it over and we had the puck, it was all out offense. Get the puck to the center and try to get in the open, get it back and shoot."

No mater the score, Mullen never took a night off.

100 Things Penguins Fans Should Know Before They Die said:
On the contrary, he scored most of his goals twisting and driving through traffic, often releasing the puck from awkward angles as he was tumbling to the ice. But my, was he effective.

He had a choppy stride, a by-product of his roller hockey days on the streets of Manhattan. But Mullen possessed great balance and surprising strength, along with a nose for the net.

Many feared it was the end of the line for the 33 year old winger. Displaying his trademark bulldog tenacity, Mullen beat the odds. He returned to action in the playoffs wearing a neck collar for protection and scored 8 goals, including 2 in Game 6 of the finals to help spark the Penguins to their first Stanley Cup.

Again, there were doubts about whether Mullen could bounce back. Again, the gritty winger defied the odds returning to score 33 goals in 1992-93 and 38 the next year to earn a spot on the Eastern Conference All Star Team.


At 39 years of age, it appeared he had finally reached the end of the line. But the Penguins missed his reliable two-way play and his penchant for scoring clutch goals.

Wikipedia said:
Mullen arrived in the NHL possessing great balance on his skates, an ability his teammates and coaches believed he gained from playing roller hockey. His coaches praised his willingness to play in the difficult areas of the ice, even though he stood only five foot nine inches tall and knew he would have to take a hit to make a play. Penguins' play-by-play announcer Mike Lange nicknamed Mullen "Slippery Rock Joe" for his ability to evade opposing players.

Nobody handed out placards with Joe Mullen's name last night. Nobody roared approval when he stepped onto the ice. Truth is, nobody really seemed to notice.

Hey, it was supposed to be Mario Lemieux's night at the Civic Arena, not Mullen's. Besides, Mullen is used to being overlooked. He could have made a made a career out of it if people didn't have a nasty habit of adding up the numbers on the scoresheet after every game.

That two-way diligence doesn't do much to pad Mullen's personal stats...

Joe Mullen put himself through a rigorous workout program during the offseason... it is difficult to overstate his value as a consistent, two-way contributor...



Scotty Bowman said:
He's so good defensively, we often use him in roles that take away from his offense. We don't put him on a lot of power plays. He always finds a way to score goals
Terry Crisp said:
He goes where the heavy going is, comes in front of the net and is smart enough to know how to take a check. A lot of players give you a first effort and that's it. With Mully, you'll see a second and third and sometimes even a fourth effort where he scores from his knees. He simply refuses to accept the fact they are trying to take him out o the play.

Emile Francis said:
He's not the biggest guy in the world, but he's strong and he's got great balance.

Emile Francis said:
He was a godsend last year. He has become an intrcate part of this team's goal-scoring ability. He's not only a good goal scorer but a playmaker.

Brad McCrimmon said:
Mully spent a career excelling in areas of the ice a lot of guys wouldn't visit on a threat of death. Great balance on his skates. Great desire. Great teammate. A little guy with big talent and a huge heart
 

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Cyclone Taylor, Rover/Center/Defenseman

Lester Patrick said:
He was as near perfection as we shall probably ever see. He had the speed of Morenz, the grade of Bun Cook, the poke check of Frank Boucher, the shot of Tom Phillips.

2x Stanley Cup Champion
2x 2nd in NHA Points Among Defensemen
2nd in ECAHA Points Among Defensemen, 06-07
3rd in ECAHA Points Among Defensemen, 07-08
36 points in 29 games in IHL as Forward
5x Led PCHA in Assists
5x Led PCHA in Points
3x Led PCHA in Goals

1st all-time points in PCHA
1st all-time assists in PCHA
Inducted into the HHOF in 1947 (the first year they inducted still-living members)

2 different secondary sources (LOH and the book "Great Centermen, Stars of Hockey's Golden Age") claim that "from 1900 to 1918, he was named to the First All Star Team of every league in which he played," at defense in the beginning of his career and later at rover/center.

In 1934, Lester Patrick called Cyclone Taylor the best player of All-Time, citing "his marvelous speed, backward or forward, his great goal-scoring record and his superb temperament." At the same time, Bullet Joe Simpson (who preferred the then-active Howie Morenz) said, "I'll concede Taylor was the best skater I ever saw, bar none. I wonder how good he would be today if a rival fast forward concentrated on covering him. Modern rules might have made a difference, also. Simpson was talking about the superior tactics in the 1930s as opposed to when Taylor played. (Source = Ottawa Citizen, Jan 10, 1934).

Cyclone Taylor's offensive dominance in the PCHA

We seem to all agree that Taylor was the best player in PCHA history, but I think it's useful to readers to show just how far ahead he was of everyone offensively. The Nayld Psycho post is from the 2008 Top 100 project:

Some info on Cyclone Taylor, interpret as you wish...

Top ten scores in PCHA history:
Name|GP|G|A|PTS|GPG|APG|PTSPG
Fred Taylor|135|160|103|263|1.185|0.763|1.948
Tom Dunderdale|242|194|59|253|0.802|0.244|1.045
Smokey Harris|253|155|90|245|0.613|0.356|0.968
Mickey MacKay|193|159|81|240|0.824|0.420|1.243
Bernie Morris|164|155|76|231|0.945|0.463|1.408
Frank Foyston|202|175|53|228|0.866|0.262|1.129
Eddie Oatman|194|124|80|204|0.639|0.412|1.051
Lloyd Cook|223|106|57|163|0.475|0.256|0.731
Frank Frederickson|105|93|47|140|0.886|0.448|1.333
Jack Walker|190|81|58|139|0.426|0.305|0.732
And for added flavour:
Name|GP|G|A|PTS|GPG|APG|PTSPG
Newsy Lalonde|15|27|N/A|27|1.8|N/A|1.8
Frank Nighbor|28|33|12|45|1.179|0.429|1.607
Didier Pitre|15|14|2|16|0.933|0.133|1.067
And for fairness sakes, Cyclone's best two seasons, two worst seasons and the 3 stars before and after seasons, making a more accurate comparisons to the NHA stars.
Name|GP|G|A|PTS|GPG|APG|PTSPG
Fred Taylor's Best|32|55|26|81|1.719|0.812|2.531
Fred Taylor's Worst|16|11|7|18|0.687|0.437|1.125
Newsy Lalonde Before|16|19|N/A|19|1.187|N/A|1.187
Newsy Lalonde After|18|25|N/A|25|1.388|N/A|1.388
Frank Nighbor Before|19|25|N/A|25|1.316|N/A|1.316
Frank Nighbor After*|23|19|5|24|0.826|0.217|1.043
Didier Pitre Before|17|24|N/A|24|1.412|N/A|1.412
Didier Pitre After|20|30|4|34|1.5|0.2|1.7

It would appear that Lalonde's stats are skewed, he played in the PCHA's 1st season, Taylor, Nighbor and Pitre came later, so the PCHA may be weaker, but other than that, there is no evidence that it was easier to score in the PCHA, and Taylor lit up the league in Gretzky like fashion.

Just a note, the year after, Nighbor absolutely destroyed the NHA with 41 goals in 19 games, I'm not sure if that's relevant, but, just HOLY ****!

Here's a link to Stuminator's Vs2 number crunching, where Taylor doesn't show up quite so highly (still the best by not by as large a margin): http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=32085303&postcount=283

Also note that while the PCHA kept much better records of assists than the NHA/early NHL, the number of assists per goal was still far less than it is in modern times. So Cyclone Taylor's point totals probably even underrate him compared to the competition - since he was almost doubling 2nd place in assists per game, while leading the pack in goals per game by a smaller margin.

Here's a link to seventieslord's study adjusting scoring to account for the limited number of assists handed out: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=31600448&postcount=912

Here's a link to Dreakmur's study, which consolidates scoring finishes between the three leagues: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=43086119&postcount=947. According to this study, Taylor would have 3 1st and 2nd place points finishes in a consolidated league, 2 1st and 1 2nd place goals finishes, 4 1st and 2 2nd place assists finishes.

Excerpts from the Book, The Patricks, Hockey's Royal family discuss Taylor's star power and seem to indicate that it was significantly higher than the star power of Newsy Lalonde

Here are some excerts from the book The Patricks: Hockey's Royal Family . Brothers Lester and Frank Patrick were the founders of the PCHA, as well as players and managers of their respective teams.

From early in Taylor's career:
pg 100 said:
As usual, it was Taylor who stole the show and got raves such as "...Taylor's cyclonic rushes electrified the audience..." and "...the player they so aptly call 'Cyclone' almost literally explodes with excitement. There is nothing quite like him in American sport..."

The book then documents the Patrick's efforts at luring Taylor out west - to them, getting Taylor to join the PCHA was the key to the success of the fledgling league:

pg 110 said:
Attendance picked up a little as the season wore on, but Frank was resigned to the fact that he wouldn't fill his building until he had the game's greatest gate attraction, Cyclone Taylor.

Note that Newsy Lalonde was a member of Frank Patricks' Vancouver Millionaries for The PCHA's inaugural 1911-12 season and even led the league in scoring, but Frank was still desperate to sign Cyclone.

From an East vs West All-Star game, when Taylor was still in the East:

pg 113 said:
The story of the game is more fully told in my earlier book, "Cyclone Taylor: A Hockey Legend", so suffice to say here that Taylor came out just like his nickname and all but blew the West All-Stars off the ice with his blinding speed and hell-for-leather aggressiveness. The arena was in an uproar as he broke up a rush, stole the puck, and then split the defense before slipping a silk-slick pass to Art Ross for the go-ahead goal. The fans were on their feet minutes later when Taylor repeated the maneuver, this time setting up Jack Darragh for the score. He got a two-minute ovation for that little gambit.

Frank Patrick, who had been beaten badly in the second rush, must have had mixed emotions.

That offseason, Lalonde headed back East to Montreal, but Frank Patrick got his prize as Taylor signed with Vancouver. Taylor was to be paid $1800, the most money in hockey and $500 more than Lalonde had been paid the previous season.

pg 117 said:
Frank and Lester were delighted with the exchange, as their league now had hockey's number one prestige player, and he was cheap at the price

Attendance of Vancouver games skyrocketed with Taylor on the team.

At Taylor's peak, he was a bigger star than Lalonde was at the time:

pg 74 said:
On the ice, the two (Patrick) brothers, even as every other player in the league including the redoubtable Lalonde, had to get used to the idea of playing second fiddle to Taylor, the master showman who hogged the headlines wherever he played.

According to Frank Patrick, Cyclone Taylor's style of play inspired them to allow forward passing in the neutral zone, the first time forward passing was ever allowed in any way in any professional hockey league:

pg 75 said:
Of Taylor himself, Frank has written: "Taylor was the ultimate hockey player. There'll never be another like him. He was blessed with the complete skills, quite apart from a unique excitement he generated every time he stepped onto the ice. I watched him very closely, and some of our ideas, such as creating the two blue lines to open up the center-ice area for passing, were inspired by his marvelous style.

Instances of physical play

Taylor isn't remembered as a physical player, but here are three different instances of him playing "rough," two of them from earlier in his career when he played coverpoint (defenseman). I don't think these make Taylor particularly physical in an all-time sense, but he is definitely no softy.

Just one game, but it seems Taylor was a difference-maker defensively all game:
The Montreal Gazette said:
Taylor, who was on the line the night the team was beaten in Quebec (TDMM - I assume this means at forward), was in Moore's position at cover point, increasing the efficiency of the defence about 50 percent. He was ruled off 4 times in the game, twice for heavy bodychecking and twice for slashing Wanderer forwards over the arms. His play, while on the rough side, was very effective; he was a hard man to get by and towards the end he stirred up the crowd by lightning rushes from end to end of the rink. He scored Ottawa's sixth and seventh goal on such dashes and was also responsible for the twelth, although Phillips landed the disc in the twine.

With Taylor off, the Wanderer forwards found it easier to work in on the Otttawa defence...

Taylor made it 11 to 1 on an end to end run and a pretty shot. Taylor immediately after the face repeated the run and Phillips scored from the rebound of Taylor's shot.

Taylor brought the crowd to their feet by stealing the disc from Hooper at the Ottawa end and going through the whole Wanderer team for Ottawa's sixth goal. Taylor went in and out through Glass and Ross and taking his time picked out the open corner of the net.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AAIBAJ&pg=2925,1720686&dq=taylor+ottawa&hl=en

Taylor noted as particularly rough, even for the era. Again, just one game:
The Montreal Gazette said:
The trouble came after the referee had been obliged to order off the ice for palpably rough play Taylor, Walsh and Lake, all of the Ottawa team. Taylor had been particularly conspicuous for rough work, and Russell promptly ordered him out of the game for good.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AAIBAJ&pg=6836,1277382&dq=taylor+ottawa&hl=en

Calgary Daily Herald said:
He supplied the only "rough stuff" of the game when he made a vicious attack with his stick on Meeking as the latter was lying on the ice. The Toronto boy in checking Taylor, fell and his stick caught "Cyclone" on the back. He left the puck and twice hit the fallen player with his stick. Randall went to Meeking's rescue and both he and Taylor exchanged jabs.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AIBAJ&pg=1492,2115844&dq=cyclone+taylor&hl=en

Other Secondary Sources (most via BillyShoe1721

Here's the HHOF profile on Taylor:
http://www.hhof.com/htmlSpotlight/spot_oneononep194706.shtml

During his time in Renfrew, fans declared that Taylor was such an amazing player that he actually scored a goal skating backwards. "That simply isn't true," Cyclone clarified. "Even though there were many people who would swear they saw it happen, it's just one of those stories that was blown up."

Taylor led the PCHA in scoring 5 times and may have won it a 6th time if it weren't for his damn appendix:

Taylor's prodigious scoring ability was him lead the league in scoring five times altogether. In 1915-16, he totalled 35 points, 43 in 1917-18 and 36 in 1918-19. It is possible that he would also have won the scoring title in 1916-17, but appendicitis kept him out of action for five weeks.

The Trail of the Stanley Cup said:
"Was regarded as a speedy rushing defender in the east. (Played rover and center upon moving west) He was a great goal scorer and inspirational leader. He was named many times to western all-star teams.

"When the O'Briens decided to pack the Renfrew team in the newly formed NHA, their plans to win the Cup were predicated on securing Taylor from Ottawa. Although Renfrew never got anywhere in their quest for the Cup, they put on a good show and Taylor was the star."

"Great players like Smokey Harris, Frank Nighbor, Mickey Mackay, Barney Stanley, and Gordon Roberts appeared on the Vancouver forward lines, but Mackay was the only one who seriously challenged Taylor."

Upon his arrival in Houghton/Portage Lakes in 1906 the local newspaper stated:

"Taylor is one of the fastest and most effective, if not the very best player that western Canada has ever produced." (I guess Ontario was considered Western Canada in those days.)

And also: "Taylor is a whirlwind, and has a superior on not any of the league teams."

The likes of Lalonde and several other Hall of Famers played in this league.

Legendary Pittsburgh shortstop Honus Wagner claimed Taylor "was as fine of an athlete as he has ever seen".

Great Centremen: Stars of Hockey's Golden Age by Paul White said:
His blazing speed dazzled both players and fans alike, and when he used it to dominate the game, scoring five goals in his very first game in the league, it was reported that the governor general turned to his aide and commented, "They should call that man the Cyclone-his speed blew the other team out of the rink."

The rover's place on the ice wasn't clearly defined, but like a centreman, his responsibilities encompassed essentially the entire sheet of ice. Cyclone Taylor was truly one of the best. In fact, some long time sportswriters consider Taylor to be hockey's first superstar. From 1900 to 1918, he was named to the First All Star Team of every league in which he played.
http://books.google.com/books?id=ge...IQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=cyclone taylor&f=false

Canada's Top 100 - the greatest athletes of all-time said:
Hockey first national superstar, the superb skater and defecenman-turned-forward Cyclone Taylor, led Vancouver to its one and only Cup victory.

Taylor was famous from coast to coast for his hurricane speed and agility.
http://books.google.com/books?id=6j...0Q6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=cyclone taylor&f=false

Coast to Coast: Hockey in Canada to the Second World War said:
Taylor represented the best that the professional game had to offer. Although not a big man, he was a tenacious, skillful, speedy, and flamboyant player...Like Wayne Gretzky in the late 20th century, Taylor's fame and drawing power extended beyond Canada.
http://books.google.com/books?id=P4...gQ6AEwAjgU#v=onepage&q=cyclone taylor&f=false

Citizen Docker: Making a New Deal on the Vancouver Waterfront said:
'Cylone' Taylor, the Wayne Gretzky of professional hockey in the early decades of the 20th century. Well known for his stellar play, on-ice antics, and high salary...
http://books.google.com/books?id=BB...8Q6AEwBzgU#v=onepage&q=cyclone taylor&f=false

Other newspaper quotes (via BillyShoe1721)

Ottawa Citizen said:
Fred Taylor, the Renfrew star, over whom there was a long wrangle as to whether he should play or not, when Ottawa substituted him for Fred Lake, after the Wanderers had scored twice in the first period, was the most spectacular man on the ice. For cleverness in carrying the puck down the rink his equal has never been seen here. A giant almost in stature he brought the crowd to its feet whenever he started down the ice, Taylor captivated his audience and was warmly applauded after each rush.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AAAAIBAJ&pg=6653,1188124&dq=fred+taylor&hl=en

Spokane Daily Chronicle said:
Cyclone Taylor, the rover of the Vancouver team, is credited with being the individual star of the league and the best scorer in the organization.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AIBAJ&pg=6498,5101751&dq=cyclone+taylor&hl=en

Example of Taylor being expected to play while hurt:
The Calgary Daily Herald said:
"Cyclone" Taylor, Vancouver's star centre player and boss scorer of the PCHA, is on the hospital list. Playing for the past 2 weeks with a sore back, the scoring wizard suffered a further severe strain in the groin, in the game last Thursday in Seattle. While the veteran, who has been playing in wonderful form of late, is a mighty sick man, it is expected that he will be able to take his place on the lineup against Portland here tonight.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...IBAJ&pg=2778,376304&dq=taylor+vancouver&hl=en

The Leader Post said:
As long as hockey is played the name Fred (Cylone) Taylor will be remembered, but the man who set the yardstick years ago for speed and for being spectacular on the ice is modest enough to believe professional hockey's new generation wouldn't recall him.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AIBAJ&pg=4358,5554312&dq=cyclone+taylor&hl=en


The Montreal Gazette said:
There are many who say that Cyclone was faster than Morenz.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AIBAJ&pg=1885,3550272&dq=taylor+renfrew&hl=en
 

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