Post-Game Talk: At least we got a point

[ACC1224]

How does ignore list make things more confusing? Seems to me like it does the opposite by definition.

BTW, why do you care about the anthem singer? Just curious, I'd be thrilled if she never came back myself. Nothing personal, I'm just sick of listening to her and some variety would be awesome. So much talent in the city, why not have a new performer every game as is done in some other places?

I find it confusing when a reply is made to whoever I have ignored. It just looks like a random thought with no context.

She started signing when my girls started watching and attending more games with me. They are more invested in it then me and like watching her grow up before our eyes. (she got her braces off same time as my daughter for example).

I like the consistency of one singer and thought she does a good rendition. Not a fan of those who go over the top when singing, seems a little disrespectful.

 

[Fogelhund]

Anyway, still some work to be done Gary imo. But that's obvious right, we're only 4 games in.

Plenty of work to do, first game back for our top player, and we have 5 of 8 points.

 

[Gary Nylund]

It wasn't that great a game by Leafs. Sure it was fun playing a non-Canadian team for once. I thought Leafs played pretty good for the most part but not great. Great entails next to no mistakes, lots of goals, etc.

The finishing worries me. Yes, give some credit to Shesterkin for sure, but can't give entire credit. How much is goalie and how much is Leafs making random goalies look like prime Hasek/Roy lol. Not happy with Muzzin-Holl yet. Muzzin imo has looked good in only one game (with Liljegren).

Imo, we tend to make too many excuses for this team. We shouldn't be completely satisfied with an OT point just because our 40 million dollar offense got robbed on occasion. This should have been a 6-1 win by Leafs, but instead they kept shooting at Shesterkin and got him hot (hes 8-0 when facing 35+ shots).

Refs were disappointing as well because they missed several calls that should've gone Leafs way.

Anyway, still some work to be done Gary imo. But that's obvious right, we're only 4 games in.

I believe the post I was responding to said it was and I even bolded that part. Whatever, it's just semantics but I have no complaints with the way we played myself.

I find it confusing when a reply is made to whoever I have ignored. It just looks like a random thought with no context.

She started signing when my girls started watching and attending more games with me. They are more invested in it then me and like watching her grow up before our eyes. (she got her braces off same time as my daughter for example).

I like the consistency of one singer and thought she does a good rendition. Not a fan of those who go over the top when singing, seems a little disrespectful.

Yes, true enough. I get what you mean now, that is confusing sometimes.

I don't like over the top either but gospel group (like last night) is a nice of change of pace, I think it would be super cool to showcase a different talent each night but that's just me.

Like this guy for example, I would love to see him get the opportunity!

 

[pcruz]

The missed "glove on the puck" penalty when the Leafs were on the power play is inadmissable.
Give this team 90 seconds of 5 on 3 with Matthews and it's nearly a guaranteed goal.
The team absolutely dominated 60 minutes last night, but they can't catch a single break it seems.

When you combine bad penalties taken, terrible calls against, blatant missed calls, lazy play here and there, horrific puck luck with bounces going the other team's way, kicked in goal, and just unreal goaltending 2 out of the 4 games, it's a wonder the team is 2-1-1.

Settle down people.

 

[Racer88]

Matthews literally said that he felt his line had chances but they need to develop better chemistry
What you think is based on literally no facts

Matthews and Marner played together all last year…….where did the chemistry go.
That comment from Matthews sound very much like the modern day sports cliche, instead of “gut check time, gotta dig deep “ etc etc. Now it chemistry, expected goals, puck luck etc etc.

 

[Gary Nylund]

The missed "glove on the puck" penalty when the Leafs were on the power play is inadmissable.
Give this team 90 seconds of 5 on 3 with Matthews and it's nearly a guaranteed goal.
The team absolutely dominated 60 minutes last night, but they can't catch a single break it seems.

When you combine bad penalties taken, terrible calls against, blatant missed calls, lazy play here and there, horrific puck luck with bounces going the other team's way, kicked in goal, and just unreal goaltending 2 out of the 4 games, it's a wonder the team is 2-1-1.

Settle down people.

I complain about the refs basically never but yes, that was ridiculous.

 

[MattySnipes]

Plenty of work to do, first game back for our top player, and we have 5 of 8 points.

Agreed. 5 of 8 is just ok. When you look at who we played (Mtl, Ott x 2, Nyr) . Those imo are all bottom 15 teams. If you want to be taken seriously they should've won atleast 3, and with B2B I can give them a bit of a break. They should have about 6-7 out possible 8 points.

If we played Tampa, Boston, Florida, and Colorado and ended up with 5 out of 8 points i probably wouldn't mind as much. But against this competition? I guess all I can default too is it's early and only 4 games. Definitely happy Matthews is back for sure. Also happy Bunting got another goal. Campbell was excellent.

 

[mydnyte]

offense was dominating, but, not sharp(too many right at the goalie or miss the net shots), and the defense was a sloppy broken rusted sieve painted puke green with black mold growing on it

 

[Racer88]

Tavares has zero goals. Nylander has 1 even strength goal that Marner had an assist from. Even for you, this is thin.

Nylander has 2 goal and 2 assist
Bunting 2 goals and 1 assist
Spezza 1 goal and 1 assist
Kerfoot 1 goal and 1 assist
Engival 1 goal
Simmonds 1 goal
Did you leave those guys out by accident or on purpose. My point was that other players have managed to score so chemistry really isn’t the problem

 

[zeke]

Matthews/Marner/Tavares: 0gls
Nylander/Kerfoot/Ritchie: 3gls
Mikheyev/Kampf/Kase: 0gls
Bunting/Spezza/Simmonds: 4gls
Engvall/Amadio/Semyonov: 1gls

 

[Notsince67]

Matthews and Marner played together all last year…….where did the chemistry go.
That comment from Matthews sound very much like the modern day sports cliche, instead of “gut check time, gotta dig deep “ etc etc. Now it chemistry, expected goals, puck luck etc etc.

Last I check a line is 3 people.

 

[Notsince67]

Nylander has 2 goal and 2 assist
Bunting 2 goals and 1 assist
Spezza 1 goal and 1 assist
Kerfoot 1 goal and 1 assist
Engival 1 goal
Simmonds 1 goal
Did you leave those guys out by accident or on purpose. My point was that other players have managed to score so chemistry really isn’t the problem

Nylanders other goal is on the power play which Marner was on the ice for. You are conflating line chemistry with an unrelated stat related to a power play unit. You are so tied into a pretzel, you are missing obvious facts

 

[fahad203]

Matthews/Marner/Tavares: 0gls
Nylander/Kerfoot/Ritchie: 3gls
Mikheyev/Kampf/Kase: 0gls
Bunting/Spezza/Simmonds: 4gls
Engvall/Amadio/Semyonov: 1gls

Yes but you and I both know that's now how's it going to be

Tavares could have and should have had multiple goals by now. Good sign is that he's getting his chances
Matthew could have easily had 2 yesterday

Marner made 2 great passes yesterday if Matthews and Nylander scores, he gets 2 assists
Tavares made a nice pass to Nylander on OT if he had scored could have gotten a point and than a beauty of a pass back to Muzzin later on the same shift. Also he made a nice pass back to Marner who passed it to Nylander on PP

Our forwards are getting their chances, that's more importan than goals at this stage

Goals we can score, it's our PP that kind of worries me

 

[Racer88]

Last I check a line is 3 people.

For sure it is. Let me ask you how many games do you think it will take for Marner and Matthews to develop “chemistry” with Richie?

Nylanders other goal is on the power play which Marner was on the ice for. You are conflating line chemistry with an unrelated stat related to a power play unit. You are so tied into a pretzel, you are missing obvious facts

I guess my whole point is if all those lesser players can manage to score why can’t Marner and Tavares do it? They are supposed to be our highest skilled players.
I think that’s a legitimate question

 

[Racer88]

Matthews/Marner/Tavares: 0gls
Nylander/Kerfoot/Ritchie: 3gls
Mikheyev/Kampf/Kase: 0gls
Bunting/Spezza/Simmonds: 4gls
Engvall/Amadio/Semyonov: 1gls

Looks like our 2nd and different versions of our 4 line are doing great……punching well above their contracts

 

[Phion Keneuf]

So many chances, not enough goals. They’ll come

 

[Racer88]

Yes but you and I both know that's now how's it going to be

Tavares could have and should have had multiple goals by now. Good sign is that he's getting his chances
Matthew could have easily had 2 yesterday

Marner made 2 great passes yesterday if Matthews and Nylander scores, he gets 2 assists
Tavares made a nice pass to Nylander on OT if he had scored could have gotten a point and than a beauty of a pass back to Muzzin later on the same shift. Also he made a nice pass back to Marner who passed it to Nylander on PP

Our forwards are getting their chances, that's more importan than goals at this stage

Goals we can score, it's our PP that kind of worries me

I almost won the lottery but I didn’t…….is that more important then if I actually won?

 

[Gary Nylund]

Agreed. 5 of 8 is just ok. When you look at who we played (Mtl, Ott x 2, Nyr) . Those imo are all bottom 15 teams. If you want to be taken seriously they should've won atleast 3, and with B2B I can give them a bit of a break. They should have about 6-7 out possible 8 points.

If we played Tampa, Boston, Florida, and Colorado and ended up with 5 out of 8 points i probably wouldn't mind as much. But against this competition? I guess all I can default too is it's early and only 4 games. Definitely happy Matthews is back for sure. Also happy Bunting got another goal. Campbell was excellent.

Even if it was 40 games, it still doesn't matter to me. I mean I care about how we look but how many points we end up with ... 97 points or 115, it's all the same to me. Just a long as we make the playoffs and then we have to bring it when the real games start in the spring and whether we win or lose that first game is more important than the 82 regular season games all put together.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

At some point don't they have to do a deep dive into why the team can't seem to finish? They dominated that game from beginning to end and yet got stoned by a goalie. How many times do we have to hear about how great the other team's goalie is? Maybe these goalies aren't the problem and/or an adjustment is needed? Just musing.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Matty, Willy, Rielly and Dermy had multiple great chances to score .. when you get 8-10 great scoring opportunities with those 4 guys you expect a couple goals and a win .. JT and Mitch non factors .. Matty got gassed late .. Soup played great .. D pairs 1 and 3 were outstanding .. Dermy with his best game of year on a couple defensive miscues by Sandin .. Holl should not have played he was our worst defender yet again .. Rangers controlled middle of ice Leafs controlled da perimeter .. stats would be skewered as a result

 

[authentic]

I almost won the lottery but I didn’t…….is that more important then if I actually won?

This is the way hockey works. If players scored on all their chances Matthews would be a 100 goal scorer. Slumps happen even when it's not representative of their play. That's about as simple as it gets.

 

[Notsince67]

For sure it is. Let me ask you how many games do you think it will take for Marner and Matthews to develop “chemistry” with Richie?

I guess my whole point is if all those lesser players can manage to score why can’t Marner and Tavares do it? They are supposed to be our highest skilled players.
I think that’s a legitimate question

No. You began this with a comparison of Willie Tavares chemistry to Marner Matthews as an attempt to attack my statement that the team needs to build chemistry.
It seems you are spinning wildly and if you are not, I'd appreciate you not messaging me to segue down another engagement of the "Marner is shit" narratives. It is a broken record and repeating it 1000 times is really f***ing boring.

 

[Leafslet]

Do you know how hockey works? It's a random sport. Sometimes you run into a hot goalie, sometimes pucks don't fall your way. All you can do is play the game like they did tonight and you're gonna win more often than you don't.

every single game we’ve played we’ve ran into “a hot goalie,” maybe it isnt the goalies. some of whom havnt even been nhl quality.

 

[Carltons Cup]

I was disappointed with the outcome and less so on how we played. They seemed to play a complete game.

On a different note (and hopefully I'm not the only one), watching Muzzin was very tough. He looked soft and skated like he had cement in his skates. I suspect he'll look even slower as the season wears on. I hope I'm wrong on this one....

 

[Racer88]

No. You began this with a comparison of Willie Tavares chemistry to Marner Matthews as an attempt to attack my statement that the team needs to build chemistry.
It seems you are spinning wildly and if you are not, I'd appreciate you not messaging me to segue down another engagement of the "Marner is shit" narratives. It is a broken record and repeating it 1000 times is really f***ing boring.

No worries.